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Well since your report of how every state that doesn't follow federal law has seceded from the union, we know how fake your news is.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/25/us-has-not-declared-war-on-north-korea-says-white-house-6954849/

Bet everybody is feeling relieved and happy they cleared that up.

As long as everyone keeps talking the talk and not walking the walk, we are safe.

North Korea's 'gruesome' murder of Kim's brother meant to 'horrify world,' new report says

Kim Jong Un wanted to assassinate his half-brother in the most “gruesome” and public way possible earlier this year to “horrify the rest of the world” and instill fear among his doubters, according to a Monday report.

“Pyongyang wanted to send a worldwide message by murdering Kim Jong Nam in this gruesome, public way,” Nam said. “Pyongyang wanted to horrify the rest of the world by releasing a chemical weapon at an airport.”

He added: “Jong Un wants to reign a long time and negotiate as a superpower. The only way to do that is to keep the world in fear of his weapons. He has a grand design, and this is part of it."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/25/...eport-says.html

More US B-1 Lancers Moving to Korea On Standby


https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b78_1506297938

Please Lance that puss filled thing known as Rocketman.

Thank you in advance.

Was just skimming through the replies and did a double take! lol

Rex Tillerson: US in contact with North Korea

US secretary of state meets Chinese President Xi Jinping to discuss ongoing threat of war on the Korean Peninsula.

The US says it has open channels of communication with North Korea and is "probing" whether the Pyongyang government is ready to enter talks on giving up its nuclear weapons programme.

Rex Tillerson, the US secretary of state, made the remarks on Saturday after an afternoon of talks with China's top diplomats and President Xi Jinping centred on the nuclear crisis and preparations for President Donald Trump's visit to Beijing in November.

"We are probing, so stay tuned," Tillerson said.

"We ask: Would you like talk?

"We're not in a dark situation, a blackout; we have a couple, three channels open to Pyongyang."

The US is looking to an economic squeeze of North Korea it hopes will compel the country's retreat from nuclear arms and missile programmes.

The US sees China as critical to averting a military confrontation with North Korea, which is fast advancing towards its goal of developing a nuclear-tipped missile capable of reaching the US.

When asked if China was acting as a go-between for communication with North Korea, Tillerson said the US has its "own channels".

Moscow, meanwhile, is prepared to work with Pyongyang to try to find a peaceful resolution to the North Korean missile crisis, the Russian foreign ministry said on Friday.

The comments came in a statement issued by the ministry after a meeting between Russian ambassador-at-large Oleg Burmistrov and Choe Son-hui, director-general of the North American department of North Korea's foreign ministry.

Choe also met Igor Morgulov, Russia's deputy foreign minister,the ministry said.

"The Russian side confirmed its readiness to combine efforts in the interests of finding ways to solve the problems in the region by peaceful, political and diplomatic means," it said.

China says it will strictly and fully enforce UN resolutions against North Korea and its Commerce Ministry on Thursday said North Korean firms and joint ventures in China and overseas would be shut down by January, in line with the latest UN resolution.

Einar Tangen, a political analyst and adviser to China's government, said there's not much more Beijing can do to curtail Pyongyang's nuclear programme.

"From the Chinese perspective, they see two speeding trains on the same track going full tilt at one another. North Korea has enshrined its nuclear programme in its constitution, there's no way they are going to give up what they see as the only point of leverage," Tangen told Al Jazeera.

"From the US side, a nuclear-armed North Korea capable of delivering an attack against US territory is unacceptable. So you have two groups who are not willing to budge an inch. What we need here is diplomacy, not deal-makers. It will require outside-the-box thinking by China and Russia if they want to resolve this."

'Unacceptable options'

Earlier this week, US Senator John McCain, who heads the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he was sceptical.

"China has not done anything for the last three presidents. I'm not sure that they're going to do anything with this one," McCain told a security conference in Washington, DC.

McCain has repeatedly warned the US, which neither wants to live with a nuclear-armed North Korea nor go to war with it, may be faced with "unacceptable options".

US officials have declined to discuss operational plans, but acknowledge no existing plan for a pre-emptive attack could promise to prevent a counterattack by North Korea, which has thousands of artillery pieces and rockets trained on South Korea's capital Seoul - a city of 25 million people.

HR McMaster, White House national security adviser, said on Monday even options such as a naval blockade meant to enforce sanctions carried risks of military escalation.

Tillerson has in the past expressed hope for dialogue with North Korea. US diplomats have also sought to assure Pyongyang that Washington is not seeking to overthrow leader Kim Jong-un, even as Trump and Kim exchange insults and threats of war.

"We are not seeking regime change or collapse," Susan Thornton, a state department assistant decretary who is travelling with Tillerson, told a Senate hearing.

Thornton's remarks were welcomed in Beijing, which is calling for a peaceful solution to the crisis.

Lu Kang, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, said the US had issued many "positive signals" that the North Korean nuclear issue should be resolved via talks.

Still, it is unclear how and when negotiations with Pyongyang might be possible.

McMaster said there was no set list of preconditions for talks but added Pyongyang's capabilities had advanced too far to simply freeze its nuclear programme in return for concessions.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/rex-tillerson-china-korea-talks-170930035204341.html

Rex- We want to talk.
Kim- I kill you.

Rex- Is there anyone you would have us meet with?
Kim- I kill you.

Rex- We have an opportunity to have peace between us.
Kim- I kill you.

Trump- BOOM BABY, Come Git Some!

North Korea promises to bring 'nuclear clouds' to Japan, mocks PM as 'headless chicken'

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/03/...ss-chicken.html

Well, he didn't get anywhere with our President so I guess it is time to move on.

AP-NORC Poll: North Korea nuke advances spook most Americans

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-norc-poll-most-trump-making-nkorea-situation-140107208--politics.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — North Korea's nuclear weapons development is spooking most Americans, and two-thirds of them say President Donald Trump's war of words with the isolated nation's leader is making the situation worse. Less than 1 in 10 thinks Trump's comments are making it better.

Those are the findings of a poll by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, as tensions between the adversaries escalate and North Korea comes closer to its goal of having a nuclear-tipped missile that could strike the continental U.S.

The poll was conducted about a week after Trump intensified rhetorical exchanges with his counterpart Kim Jong Un, dubbing him "Rocket Man" and threatening in a Sept. 19 speech at the U.N. to "totally destroy" North Korea if the U.S. is forced to defend itself and its allies. Kim responded with dire threats and insults of his own, calling Trump "deranged" and a "dotard."

"The instability of it all makes me very nervous," said Diana Egan, 34, of Los Angeles. She described herself as a moderate Republican but voiced anxiety about how North Korea might respond to Trump's tough talk and tweets. "You don't know where the line is for them, and where they say, 'I'm going to push this button.'"

The poll found that 65 percent of Americans think Trump's comments have made the situation between the U.S. and North Korea worse, including 45 percent who think he's made the situation much worse. Only 8 percent think he's making the situation better.

Eighty-nine percent of Democrats, 59 percent of independents and 38 percent of Republicans think Trump's comments have made things worse.

Trump defended his tough approach on Wednesday as he conceded differences on North Korea with his own top diplomat, Rex Tillerson, who advocates keeping open the possibility of negotiations with Kim's authoritarian government.

"I think perhaps I feel stronger and tougher on that subject than other people," Trump said in the Oval Office. "But I listen to everybody and ultimately I will do what's right for the United States and really what's right for the world," he said, adding, "it's a problem that has to be solved."

Although North Korea's ability to wed a nuclear warhead with a long-range missile and strike a target in the U.S. remains uncertain, most of the poll respondents are worried about Kim attacking America. In July, North Korea tested for the first time a missile that could potentially strike most of the continental U.S.

Some 67 percent of Americans are very or extremely concerned about the threat North Korea's nuclear weapons program poses to the United States. Four in 10 are concerned about the threat posed to where they live specifically, more so if they live in urban areas.

"He (Trump) will be somewhere safe. We got nowhere to go," said Anthony Leroy Waters, 61, of Wilmington, North Carolina. He said he lives 30 miles from a nuclear power plant and fears the impact an attack could have on his locality. "It's scary," he said.

According to the poll, Democrats are more likely than Republicans to be concerned about where they live, 50 percent to 32 percent.

Overall, 68 percent of respondents say they are concerned about the threat posed to U.S. territories like Guam, and 69 percent are concerned about the threat to U.S. allies, such as Japan and South Korea — North Korea's neighbors. That concern registered higher among older Americans than younger ones.

Some 75 percent of Americans also think comments made by North Korean leaders have made the situation between the two countries worse. Eighty-three percent of Democrats and 70 percent of Republicans agree.

Mui Baltrumas, 67, of Evanston, Illinois, dissented. He said the North Korean threat is being blown out of proportion and Kim is more calculating and "not nearly as crazy as everyone thinks he is." Baltrumas, who leans Democratic, said he was more concerned by the "John Wayne-style machismo coming out of the White House."

"So long as we're looking at North Korea, we're not looking at problems in our own backyard. I think it's a nice, cheap political diversion," he said.

The AP-NORC poll of 1,150 adults was conducted Sept. 28-Oct. 2 using a sample drawn from NORC's probability-based AmeriSpeak panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

Respondents were first selected randomly using address-based sampling methods, and later interviewed online or by phone.

Well I certainly am glad the people don't run our foreign policy because they can't even see that 30 years of appeasement has brought us to today, facing a tyrant who threatens us and kills his own people for enjoyment.

You and I must have the courage to say to our enemies there is a price we will not pay,
There is a point beyond which they must not advance.

Why we Stand Strong...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J90SJ0_uEqI

Can we send the Yankees to NK ?

only if we can sent the steelers with them.

ehhh, ill start with the Yankees at this point. or maybe tito. man, I know wrong thread, but I still cant get over last night. what a let down. truly think the worse I have seen.

and the Warriors...

200 feared dead after tunnel collapses at North Korean nuclear test site, Japanese TV claims

About 200 people are feared dead in North Korea after underground tunnels at a nuclear test site that was feared to be unstable reportedly collapsed, crushing 100 people in the initial cave-in and 100 others when the tunnels again gave way on top of rescuers.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/31/...-tv-claims.html

-Seems Rocket man has been overworking that mountain.

"Nuclear dominance in Southern Asia".

President of the United States Donald Trump today declared North Korea a State Sponsor of Terrorism.

More Sanctions to come.

CDC to hold briefing on how public can prepare for nuclear war

"While a nuclear detonation is unlikely, it would have devastating results and there would be limited time to take critical protection steps. Despite the fear surrounding such an event, planning and preparation can lessen deaths and illness,"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-to-hold-briefing-on-preparing-for-nuclear-war/

Be sure to watch so we can all survive to post here!

Sure is a good thing I saved my "Duck and Cover" booklet from the 60's

Trump deserves 'big credit' for sparking North Korea talks, South Korea's president says

President Trump deserves “big credit” for kicking off the first talks between Pyongyang and Seoul in more than two years, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said Wednesday.

North Korea agreed Tuesday to send a delegation to next month’s Winter Olympics, which are set to begin next month in Pyeongchang, South Korea. The rival nations’ talks are the first sign of a possible thaw in their relationship.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...ident-says.html

Keep up the good work Mr.President

Yet SK still reached out to NK and got a deal done to allow NK State sponsored terrorist athletics to compete in their Olympics games.

Whats the president of South Korea know ... our liberal menZas on the board know way more about this than him ... ...

is NK giving up its nukes?

no?

so what did Trump do, again? Trump said no nukes, so whats up?

You must have been distracted with all the Liberal Tears and Fears when our President was talking tough.
Peace has broken out! Negotiations have started!

so is he giving up nukes or nah?

No he just assured the South Koreans they were not pointed at them, and that they’re all pointed at us.

NK wasn't 'allowed' to have nukes in the first place. NK wasn't allowed to have ICBM's in the first place. NK was not allowed to test missiles in the first place.

NK does what they want, while their people starve.

Now, you can go back and blame however many presidents, I get that.

the other presidents didn't lie about sending a fleet to the korean peninsula, though.

Trump is the one who decided to ramp this up to the levels we're seeing today.

hey arch, can you name any other president who called a NK dictator "rocket man" on twitter?

i seem to have trouble finding that anywhere on google.

No. I can't.

Not sure what hat has to do with NK having nukes they weren't allowed to have, or ICBM's they weren't allowed to have, or testing those, which they weren't allowed to do.

And that is what I stated.

so whats Trump going to do about it?

if your answer is nothing, then the next question is then why did he decide to ramp up the trash talk, when other leaders just decided to ignore him?

Who knows what "we'll" do about it. That's not the point, swish.

The point is you can go back decades probably, and the u.s. hasn't, nor has the u.n., done anything.

THAT is the point. I'm sorry, it doesn't jibe with your "blame trump" rhetoric.

Talking smack? That's what scares you?

that is the point.

thats the whole purpose of this thread. to talk about how Trump is handling north korea.

who's president right now, Arch? so why can't you ever talk about Trump without mentioning others? highly annoying.

North Korea is not defined as a nuclear power under the Non-Proliferation Treaty. But they will do what what they want. They're a rogue nation. All we can do is try and force SK and China to help with more diplomacy, or add more sanctions, or go to war. It's not like they are not allowed.

Never ceases to amaze me how gun rights advocates are always the first to say other countries aren't allowed to own certain weapons to protect themselves.

Wow - talk about "never cease to amaze me".

Constitutional rights here in the u.s. to own personal firearms now equates to rights to own nukes? Even though the u.n. has disallowed nukes for NK?

My shotgun, and hunting rifle, and my handgun are now nukes, or the equivalent?

You are correct, Trump is president.

You ignoring the facts that the u.s. and the u.n., over years and years, failed to do anything about n.k. is what is annoying.

But, I get it: Blame Trump. Damn right. I blame Trump, it's his fault.

That damn orangutan looking, no hair of his own having, trust fund child having, in the throes of dementia having, bankrupt son of a gun, can't read or write little b! Racist s.o.b.

HE is to blame for nk getting nukes. Well I'll be. I never knew no other president or congress, or the u.n., had anything to do with it.

Hopefully nothing. Trump is discussing a 'bloody nose tactic'.

I certainly agree with you to that extent.

Yet I do believe it's a fair question to ask just who feels they have the right to dictate to the globe who can have nukes and who can't?

I mean let's face it, the U.N. has been nothing more than a tool for the U.S. to use as a hand to enforce their global wishes. Well, of course except when it comes to paying the bill for it. Any time they don't kiss our ace we quickly threaten to cut off funding. Pretty much blackmail.

I mean I just wonder why some nations think they have the right to dictate nuclear power to the globe? I know if I lived in a world where only a handful of nations could dictate the entire globe, I would want to be among those nations and would want equal capability to protect my country.

I mean let's be honest here. Nobody attacks a country that has nuclear capability. What better insurance that your country would remain free of attack?

Don't get me wrong here. Kim is certainly someone I hate to see with nuclear capabilities. But I do understand why nations across our globe would try to achieve it.

Neat.

But ask swish - it's all Trump's fault.

You said it, not me.

Again, trump decided to ramp up the trash talk. Nobody said trump allowed NK to have nukes. But trump decided to go away from how other world leaders do it. He decided to take a different approach than how the other presidents before him did.

But this is a recurring problem with you. You keep making up lies and spreading false narratives. Nobody said a damn thing about trump allowing NK to get nukes, yet here is Arch making up BS like he’s Alex Jones.

Tell me Arch, what President not named trump sent a fleet to the Korean peninsula that ended up being fake news?

What President not named trump did a speech and a tweet calling Kim rocket man?

What President not named trump decided to tweet with Kim over who had bigger nukes?

What President not named trump decided to not be in sync and have mixed messages coming from the state Department and administration?

So you can whine and complain like an 8 year old all you want, at the end of the day, trump is currently president, and he’s the one who decided to ramp up the trash talk at Kim. Fact.