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President Trump calls for Patriotism in standing for the National Anthem while the sports world answers with divisiveness and a big "up yours".

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I could not remember if it was thread or another that someone stated Trump was neglecting PR disaster. Well, seems like that is a bold faced lie. Even CNN trying to write hit piece again against him, couldn't even leave the facts out.

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Four thousand US Army Reserve members have been deployed to the island, the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration said. More than 1,600 service members from the US National Guard have also responded to Hurricane Maria, according to FEMA's news release.

Additionally, US Northern Command, which provides military support for civil authorities, is working with FEMA and government officials in the relief efforts, the release said.


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When the "supposed" comedy shows of late night changed over to starting each program with Left leaning propaganda, I stopped watching them. When challenged, they quickly revert to "Oh, we are just comedy, not news."

When the NBA began a policy of rejecting any city or state with different views than their views for consideration of where they hold their all star game, I stopped watching.

Now the NFL begins every game with politics.

I was thinking if shows like "Big Bang Theory" and others began each show with political statements, I would stop watching them too.

I get enough Left leaning news from the network news programs and now it has spilled over into sports. I am not happy.

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Puerto Rico starves
Already proven false, but keeping a fake narrative. Its really becoming of you.

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[quote]Four thousand US Army Reserve members have been deployed to the island, the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration said. More than 1,600 service members from the US National Guard have also responded to Hurricane Maria, according to FEMA's news release.

Additionally, US Northern Command, which provides military support for civil authorities, is working with FEMA and government officials in the relief efforts, the release said.


Why are American citizens of Puerto Rico being starved to death then?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
When the "supposed" comedy shows of late night changed over to starting each program with Left leaning propaganda, I stopped watching them. When challenged, they quickly revert to "Oh, we are just comedy, not news."

When the NBA began a policy of rejecting any city or state with different views than their views for consideration of where they hold their all star game, I stopped watching.

Now the NFL begins every game with politics.

I was thinking if shows like "Big Bang Theory" and others began each show with political statements, I would stop watching them too.

I get enough Left leaning news from the network news programs and now it has spilled over into sports. I am not happy.
I know what you are saying, however I will digress and point out that sports and politics have intertwined LONG before any of the others.

Do you think the Miracle on Ice did not have political strings attached to it? Ali and the war? 72 Olympics w/ Munich? Jackie Robinson and the color barrier? Jesse Owens and Hitler? Joe Lewis vs Max Schmeling?

Like it or not, sports and politics have a lonnnnngggg history.

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Four thousand US Army Reserve members have been deployed to the island, the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration said. More than 1,600 service members from the US National Guard have also responded to Hurricane Maria, according to FEMA's news release.

Additionally, US Northern Command, which provides military support for civil authorities, is working with FEMA and government officials in the relief efforts, the release said.


Why are American citizens of Puerto Rico being starved to death then?

How so? Proof or just random opinion? I take it you are typing from PR

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FEMA administrator Brock Long and Homeland Security senior adviser Tom Bossert were in Puerto Rico assessing the damage on behalf of the administration.

"The response has been at an unprecedented level and we're supplying federal assistance as quickly as possible," she added.

More than 10,000 federal staff are on the ground in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands "assisting with search & rescue, restoring power, & moving commodities," according to FEMA.

-Stop politicizing the plight of the people of Puerto Rico!
They have been destroyed by the Hurricane! No electricity, no airports, few open roads, no sewage treatment, no water being pumped, complete devastation.
It is proving very difficult in getting things to those in need.

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Just ignore the ignorance 40. There is nothing spiral is offering of substance, just trolling false lies and a fake narrative to fit his need.

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Anyways, how 'bout them Cowboys! Kneel before the anthem. Stand when being sung.

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Five days after Hurricane Maria tore through Puerto Rico, bisecting the entire island, the US territory is in the grips of a serious, life-threatening crisis, with humanitarian aid getting in far more slowly than is needed.

The island is running short on food, fuel, and access to clean water and there’s limited communications, which means some communities have received no information about the rescue efforts underway.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environme...ty-cell-service




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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
Anyways, how 'bout them Cowboys! Kneel before the anthem. Stand when being sung.

I thought that was a pretty good compromise. And as is often the case with good compromises, there were people on both sides who were not happy with it.

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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Five days after Hurricane Maria tore through Puerto Rico, bisecting the entire island, the US territory is in the grips of a serious, life-threatening crisis, with humanitarian aid getting in far more slowly than is needed.

The island is running short on food, fuel, and access to clean water and there’s limited communications, which means some communities have received no information about the rescue efforts underway.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environme...ty-cell-service


I know, Obama would have had it open for business within hours. . . . the mighty king and god did no wrong.

It was a natural disaster, broham. Trump and this admin has been on point with every one of them so far. Logistics are making this harder yes, but the effort and willingness of the administration has been more than any of the previous presidents during any such disaster.

IDK why I even respond, troll away.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Just ignore the ignorance 40. There is nothing spiral is offering of substance, just trolling false lies and a fake narrative to fit his need.


thumbsdown Yep, you guys and Trump do your goose stepping with hate and bigotry and still insist and continue to whine and cry about our sports figures taking a knee and call those american citizens hungry starving and dying with great need of shelter in Puerto Rico fake news.

Please continue your whining and crying about sports figures for your distraction. Deplorable. Can't wait for all those rednecks to Boycott NFL games but they never do. It would be 10 times more enjoyable without them.


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I think we should all move on to something important. Trump's little distractions are getting monotonous. If he can keep us all fighting for 8 years maybe we won't notice his complete failure as POTUS, or catch him robbing us blind.

Trump is getting less relevant by the minute.

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So disagreeging with a black person is automatically bigotry in your eyes.

Left playbook step 1 - automatically call whoever disagrees with you bigot, racist, etc. CHECK

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whine and cry about our sports figures taking a knee
cause golly mister enlightenment, lord knows people cannot talk about more than one thing at a time.....

Left playbook step 2 - ASSume that the topic YOU want to talk about is more important to everyone else - CHECK

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Puerto Rico fake news.
I posted the contrary from CNN stating the massive relief efforts underway. You posted an article from VOX. Yeah fake news.

Liberal playbook step 3 - Try to discredit any opposing view with your faux outrage and narrative. CHECK

Man, you guys are so predictable its almost not funny, but it still is rofl

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
I think we should all move on to something important. Trump's little distractions are getting monotonous. If he can keep us all fighting for 8 years maybe we won't notice his complete failure as POTUS, or catch him robbing us blind.

Trump is getting less relevant by the minute.
At least you have finally realized he will serve 8 years, your on the right track!

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Spiral, you're way off base with the relief effort for P.R.
Did you forget it's an ISLAND? I have family there on my wifes side. We finally got word 2 days ago they are alive.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
I think we should all move on to something important. Trump's little distractions are getting monotonous. If he can keep us all fighting for 8 years maybe we won't notice his complete failure as POTUS, or catch him robbing us blind.

Trump is getting less relevant by the minute.
At least you have finally realized he will serve 8 years, your on the right track!


Worst case scenario. wink I don't think his presidency survives Mueller.

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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
Spiral, you're way off base with the relief effort for P.R.
Did you forget it's an ISLAND? I have family there on my wifes side. We finally got word 2 days ago they are alive.

Because it would take an actual miniscule of brain power to realize that PR relies due to its location and geography on IMPORTS. They do not have the manufacturing or ability to supply any type of substance for the entire population. We don't have a teleporter yet as it is to my knowledge, so it will take time to get supplies to them. However they have been given every amount of available assistance humanly possible. To **try to** politicize people's suffering is plain abhorrent and disgusting. But the PARTY of peace and RIGHTOUSNESS huh?

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You really think something is going to happen? Honestly, I believe everything is circumstantial and hearsay. But EVEN if they find evidence (which they haven't), do you really think its going to lead to trump? It wont. Flynn, maybe. Manafort, maybe. But they were both fired by trump, no? See how that works smile

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You really think something is going to happen? Honestly, I believe everything is circumstantial and hearsay. But EVEN if they find evidence (which they haven't), do you really think its going to lead to trump? It wont. Flynn, maybe. Manafort, maybe. But they were both fired by trump, no? See how that works smile


I think Manafort and Flynn have already cut deals, that's why Mueller is after documents from the White house including and focused on Trump. I also think Don Jr and Kushner are going down. But Trump might survive if they managed to keep him out of the loop, which wouldn't surprise me.

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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
Spiral, you're way off base with the relief effort for P.R.
Did you forget it's an ISLAND? I have family there on my wifes side. We finally got word 2 days ago they are alive.



Good to hear. I was stationed at Rosy Roads in the Navy. My Brother lived there during the 90's. I've spent a lot of time in Puerto Rico over the years and have dozens of friends there. I'm trying to get on with a relief effort but it's hard finding any to join plus I'll need to take a leave of absence at my job to go help. But still trying.


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Spiral, you're way off base with the relief effort for P.R.
Did you forget it's an ISLAND? I have family there on my wifes side. We finally got word 2 days ago they are alive.

Because it would take an actual miniscule of brain power to realize that PR relies due to its location and geography on IMPORTS. They do not have the manufacturing or ability to supply any type of substance for the entire population. We don't have a teleporter yet as it is to my knowledge, so it will take time to get supplies to them. However they have been given every amount of available assistance humanly possible. To **try to** politicize people's suffering is plain abhorrent and disgusting. But the PARTY of peace and RIGHTOUSNESS huh?


Keep whining bro, it fits you to a tee.


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Ill play along (I personally think this whole thing is a fraud to satisfy the left losing) - Lets say there was something, again - the federal government is not going to let this get attached to trump, it just wont. What you guys fail to realize is that most of this entire Left and Right thing, is a farse. These people are all buddies, and all friends (that's why they call it the swamp). If something happened and they pinned him to it, it would completely destroy any fait in government the people have and cause more an uprising and unrest with the people (or worker ants). They know this. They will not let this happen. We are chasing the piece of cheese while they obtain the entire stockpile of it. They know this, they will not want to disrupt this.

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HA! That's rich coming from someone on the left, talking about whining. lol

Your still whining about something that happened in January. Wahhhhhhh Hil lost, wahhhhhhh, Russia Russia Russia. lol ohhh man thanks, I needed that on a slow Tuesday. bwhwahahahahahah

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Ill play along (I personally think this whole thing is a fraud to satisfy the left losing) - Lets say there was something, again - the federal government is not going to let this get attached to trump, it just wont. What you guys fail to realize is that most of this entire Left and Right thing, is a farse. These people are all buddies, and all friends (that's why they call it the swamp). If something happened and they pinned him to it, it would completely destroy any fait in government the people have and cause more an uprising and unrest with the people (or worker ants). They know this. They will not let this happen. We are chasing the piece of cheese while they obtain the entire stockpile of it. They know this, they will not want to disrupt this.


Trump is an outsider and he makes too many enemies. The GOP leadership would love to see him gone, don't fool yourself. Almost all of the leaks were coming from his staff! You really think he has friends on capitol hill?

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I agree with that, but they also realize the majority of THEIR voters vote for them as well. You are giving them way too much credit, and not enough credit to Trumps supporters. The majority of the R party still backs trump, in every poll. Congress has a lower approval rating. Don't fool yourself, they know where the bread and butter is on their side, and regardless of your thoughts on him, doesn't change the fact its Trump.

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I agree with that, but they also realize the majority of THEIR voters vote for them as well. You are giving them way too much credit, and not enough credit to Trumps supporters. The majority of the R party still backs trump, in every poll. Congress has a lower approval rating. Don't fool yourself, they know where the bread and butter is on their side, and regardless of your thoughts on him, doesn't change the fact its Trump.


Well that all depends on the case Mueller presents. If Donald looks guilty, he's done. Just look at this past weekend with the NFL, he might have support from his base (which is smaller than you realize) but the country pretty much flipped him the bird over kneeling! Imagine what is going to happen if he 'looks' guilty of treason. lol

Don't you think for a moment that his supporters won't be drowned out in calls for his head.

Why do you think he can't get any major legislation passed? The country doesn't like or trust him.

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The police are being scrutinized more than ever before they are being charged, arrested ,put on trial and in many cases are found guilty and as long as the progressive liberal press hates Trump they are on guard for anything that remotely smells like injustice.
With that said....the Deflection for truth is set up to deflect from the real culprits the progressive left. For example I watched the beginning of the Bears game (you know in Chicago where the minority crime rate. murder rate .gang rate ,drug rate is at an all time high.
Schools are being closed at an alarming rate.
Unemployment rate is high urban blight is happening, yet what does the progressive Government and CNN worry about,It worries about how to protect and help make a better life for CRIMINAL ILLEGALS. So imo maybe that should be addressed while taking a knee also



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Anyways, how 'bout them Cowboys! Kneel before the anthem. Stand when being sung.

I thought that was a pretty good compromise. And as is often the case with good compromises, there were people on both sides who were not happy with it.


I didn't know they did that. It is a good compromise! thumbsup

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I agree with that, but they also realize the majority of THEIR voters vote for them as well. You are giving them way too much credit, and not enough credit to Trumps supporters. The majority of the R party still backs trump, in every poll. Congress has a lower approval rating. Don't fool yourself, they know where the bread and butter is on their side, and regardless of your thoughts on him, doesn't change the fact its Trump.


Well that all depends on the case Mueller presents. If Donald looks guilty, he's done. Just look at this past weekend with the NFL, he might have support from his base (which is smaller than you realize) but the country pretty much flipped him the bird over kneeling! Imagine what is going to happen if he 'looks' guilty of treason. lol

Don't you think for a moment that his supporters won't be drowned out in calls for his head.

Why do you think he can't get any major legislation passed? The country doesn't like or trust him.
The reason it wont get passed is because he is actually trying to pass legislation as opposed to writing it as an EO, which the last guy did. Which in turn is why the left is freaking out, because its getting erased by the day.

Save this post, nothing will happen to him. He will be in office for a long time.

In January, they said they wouldn't make it to april.

In april, they said he wouldn't make it til may.

The dossier, the polls, the Russian claims, the recount of votes, the Emualates Clause, over and over the left is throwing out whatever they can, and yet nothing sticks. Its a farse to keep the left supporters happy and in line.

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The police are being scrutinized more than ever before they are being charged, arrested ,put on trial and in many cases are found guilty and as long as the progressive liberal press hates Trump they are on guard for anything that remotely smells like injustice.
With that said....the Deflection for truth is set up to deflect from the real culprits the progressive left. For example I watched the beginning of the Bears game (you know in Chicago where the minority crime rate. murder rate .gang rate ,drug rate is at an all time high.
Schools are being closed at an alarming rate.
Unemployment rate is high urban blight is happening, yet what does the progressive Government and CNN worry about,It worries about how to protect and help make a better life for CRIMINAL ILLEGALS. So imo maybe that should be addressed while taking a knee also


That would make sense, except for the fact is all a ploy to keep people faux outraged and in line smile

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Agree but that clock has been tickin now for awhile - and each day is a different issue "we got him" on, and yet more and more let down. Its actually in all honestly dangerous game the left is playing.

Lets say this, I played along with your theory, play along with this for me.

What if Trump didn't do anything? Regardless of your thoughts on the issue, lets say it was all a narrative, and Mueller comes out and says nothing there. What do you think the citizens on the left are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.

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United we'll stand. Divided we'll kneel.


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What if Trump didn't do anything? Regardless of your thoughts on the issue, lets say it was all a narrative, and Mueller comes out and says nothing there. What do you think the citizens on the left are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.


And if he did what do you think the right are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange

What if Trump didn't do anything? Regardless of your thoughts on the issue, lets say it was all a narrative, and Mueller comes out and says nothing there. What do you think the citizens on the left are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.


And if he did what do you think the right are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.
Nope. We have Pence on the Bench, next man up!

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And if he did what do you think the right are going to do? Frankly, I am scared to think of it. Because we all have an idea of the outrage and terror that will ensure.


No, you have no clue of the outrage that will ensue unless justice is served. Yes Justice.

Otherwise the Hamma will fall.

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