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Wanna bet I can get a cop to shoot me in the next ten minutes even tho I am white?

It ain't race.

You are? You've been caught lying, proven wrong by all and you schooled y'all priceless.

Stand up support those children!

Sure. How much you talking?

i don't lie about jack homeboy.

but keep parroting a false narrative that black on black crime is related to police shootings.

Eve if i smoked a bowl yall would be done.

Swish knows he is wrong just not man enough to admit it.

Where did I post that? Just another lie.

The Sammy Sosa Cream is softening him up.

This is what the protest is about. Police indiscriminately shooting unarmed people, more specifically black people.

Ya know, the actual relatable topic to the thread. Yet YOU are the one talking about black on black crime.

So again, not false. You just can't keep up with your own BS. Not my problem.

Ha... right

You did get a short break from me at least. Had to charge up my laptop battery so I could spend another hour arguing about race and police on Dawgtalkers

Well to be fair you need to get swish or CHSDawg with you to act the same way and see who gets shot!

Police are not indiscriminately shooting unarmed people.

Only the worst of the worst cases even go viral in the first place. Again... over 40 million black people and 1 million cops in the United States (numbers are approximate.) The cases we debate come up maybe a few times a year.

Even those 'worst' cases often involve crimes and assisting arrest from the deceased though this does not necessarily justify anything that happens after that. I'm just saying that they're often factors in the overall situation.

Yes they are.

The people who think that tend to be bad with numbers and scale.

Yet those who don't think that tend to be blind to other demographics they don't associate with, or blind to social dynamics throughout the history of the country.

Oh well.

Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don't.
Especially when an armed cop is telling me to show me your hands.

Learn to live.

I get you now it's OK for black people to indiscriminately shoot unarmed black people in greater numbers but worse for police to do the same by a far lesser amount in your mind.

Both are wrong and BOTH should be what they are kneeling for but it's like being an addict until you are ready to admit it's a problem it will continue.

Again, more lies.

We do admit it's a problem, but unlike you we don't correlate that with police shootings. Black on black crime rims is no reason for racist cops to shoot us, just like white on white cops isn't an aexduse for a racist black cop to shoot y'all.

The flaw in your argument is trying to play "whatabout" with someone who doesn't play that crap.

You can't stick to the topic. Always gotta be something else.

Well I'm out. I already know the answer to that one.

I'm calling it a night. Got ganged up by sheep, but the lion has to entertain from time to time.

Everlast - what it's like.

Yes! Last word for once!

I thought the topic was innocent black people being killed.

You want to dwell only when they are killed by police when far more are killed by their own.

Oh well I have nothing to fear I'm a law abiding USA citizen. Good luck blaming police and not the criminals.

It is unfortunate you are going to bed because this could actually be a useful conversation. Briefly: You make a good point, and it's not something I ever really denied. I feel I've agreed with you on this to at least some extent over the months but somehow you forget this or just outright ignored it.

At the same time, I can't help but think that you get too offended when I post stats or interpretations that you may not hear about too often in the media or left-wing Twittersphere or wherever. Remember that you specifically requested a source for somebody's claim, although it appears that you misinterpreted what that poster had said.

Funny way to phrase that sheep are innocent creatures where lions are murderous creatures...Freudian slip.

We'll see about that

Everybody knows females have the last word.

Not in this Haus!

Hey Vambo! What is this crap supposed to mean or accomplish? You and other posters are always trying to shift the blame or the focus to the victims! The fact that blacks kill more blacks than cops kill blacks doesn't mean a damn thing! More whites kill whites than anybody else too! It's because we tend to spend more time around people like us than people not like us. Sure you have mixed relationships at work, but 50% of the time we are with those like us.

What a stupid backwoods comparison that does nothing but try to shift blame and distract from the issue at hand. If cops started killing people like you at a much higher rate than others, killing your teens, shooting law abiding individuals... You wouldn't mind the protest then I bet.

The problem with guys like you is that you can't feel empathy for the "OTHER" because you are either afraid of or threatened by them, or you are just a bigot, or possibly a psychopath. Either way, maybe you need to examine you own issues before you go to work on other peoples.

And please don't feel like I'm singling you out here, I'm saying this to numerous posters who do this same thing all the time. Grow up.

I think we are all grown ups here and the crime rate as well as common attitudes and behavior of the group that most often complains about treatment from police are all fair game as those all factor in to the situation at hand. It isn't all about the color of the skin you know.

Swish has been saying that cops are going around indiscriminately shooting unarmed black people and that's just not true! Show me the cases where unarmed blacks, who did not commit any crimes and are not resisting arrest, are being shot. If that is happening then it is incredibly rare. But in a country with more than 40,000,000 black people, 1,000,000 police officers, and ubiquitous cell phone cameras, these videos should be popping up all over the place if what Swish said is true.

There was one incident where two men were sitting in the middle of the street and a black man who was a counselor or teacher helping his autistic student whose race I cannot recall off the top of my head, and the counselor/teacher was shot. Completely unnecessary to shoot there, despite the weirdness of the situation.

If I recall, the counselor survived with minor injury (easy for me to say as I'm not the one who got shot!) but it was still very alarming. I don't know what the heck that cop was thinking when she shot him.

Just about every other shooting I can recall involves some some crime, resisting arrest, a person waving a gun around or a BB gun/replica gun that is indistinguishable from a centerfire firearm, etc. Note that these things do not necessarily justify police shooting, but I'm trying to understand where Swish is coming from.

Where are all these cases where unarmed black men are being indiscriminately shot? Let's be generous and say such a case comes up every few months. And in the meantime, a thousand blacks are murdered by other blacks. How is that not relevant?

After wading through this thread I have come to a decision. Since I already started my own group OLM... Old Lives Matter, I now want to try to get a bunch of NFL players to help me protest a even greater tragedy taking place in our country. I also want to name my new group BLM and protest all the senseless violence and murders of unarmed innocent victims.

Babies
Lives
Matter

*Taking a knee as I type*

It's a good point. I like how you preserved the BLM initialism.

Babies Lives Matter
Black Lives Matter
Blue Lives Matter

Feel free to add.

Yet the islamic terrorists still killed more people. And they started the study on September 12, 2001.. go back one day and they have killed A LOT MORE PEOPLE.


It won't let me open the Washington Post article because I don't have a subscription... I'm curious how they define a "left wing extremist".. I'm sure it's not counting your garden variety inner city drug dealer....

There have been a lot of manipulated statistics posted in all of these articles...

Using the information from all of these articles, I could write an article and say, Since 9/11/2001, islamic terrorists are responsible for 96.7% of all terrorism related deaths in the United States.. and it's 100% accurate.

Man, did you wake up on the Cranky side of the bed today LOL Geez,,

I see nothing wrong with a period of time dedicated to social issues.. You say that liberals are crying about it, I say they are DOING something about it rather than just calling people names and hiding under your blankie.

I am trying to figure out what a month dedicated to social issues would entail.

What specific rights do people need that they don't already have?

How can police officers, as a whole, do better while also taking into account the dangerous and otherwise unenviable positions they are often put into?

Will conservatives have an opportunity to voice their concerns on social issues without being harassed and being called all sorts of names?

Why is it that if police or white people ASSume anything about a black person its institutional racism and bigotry, but blacks can ASSume anything they want and generalize any other race they feel the need to and its no big deal.

Just an observation.

You obviously don't get how eve and me talk to each other. This is standard issue. Follow along.

It doesn't?

So you seemed to be worried more about who kills them rather than who is killing more of them.

I stated both are to blame how did I shift blame?

I can go out in my neighborhood at any hour day or night we have a multiple races living together helping each other at times and others that stick to themselves. The police are welcomed and are treated with respect as they treat us with respect. Not sure how that makes me a "a bigot, or possibly a psychopath" as you posted.

All said and good, but this is common with any minority to whites. If we stereotype is bigotry and racism, yet when the other races stereotype there is much ado about nothing.

If you cut down on blacks killing blacks then cops killing blacks should decrease as a result.

Less crime less need for cops.

History matters. But overall I agree with your point.