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#1325715 10/02/17 03:48 AM
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For those who lost their lives tonight in Vegas.

May God guide you to your final resting place.

What is going on in this world right now?

Prayers for the families of the victims.


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terrible news to wake up to ... prayers to everyone


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At Least 2 Dead, Dozens Injured In Shooting Attack At Country Music Festival

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/las-...4b05f005d352095

Horrible. Several witness videos on the article, must see. Shooter is down, no more details. They just opened fire with full auto machine gun from the sound, 40,000 Targets at a concert. What the hell is this world coming to. Terrorist and nutjobs everywhere!

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Shots came from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay. Over 20 dead an over a 100 injured


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50 reported dead.


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50 dead, 200 injured.

RIP to those who lost their lives, hopefully no more deaths come.


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Reporting the shooter was 64, no run ins with local law enforcement, had multiple weapons in the room. Police shot and killed shooter. A companion female person of interest is also being investigated.

Terrible. Deadliest mass shooting in US history.

Edit: Female contacted, no longer person of interest.

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Why would anyone do this? It's horrifying.


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God bless the dead, the wounded, the families.. God bless them all.


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Horrible.

I'll say I was In Vegas 2 weeks ago with my art for a festival. The festival was in downtown Vegas but one night my girlfriend and I went down to the strip. I kept thinking about how I felt so vulnerable because of how corralled the sidewalk makes you feel. There are places that if a shooting started there'd be no place to go. Fish in a barrel. Frankly I was glad to leave.

My take on Vegas after my first visit, it is a cesspool anyway. A stripper pole. Shiny from a distance but up close its gross and it stinks.

I hope the shooter rots in hell. May the victims be at peace, and families of the victims find peace in their tragic losses.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
50 dead, 200 injured.

RIP to those who lost their lives, hopefully no more deaths come.


Amen to that...


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Sad. Just, really, really sad. frown

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that's a LOT of casualties and injuries. sad to see this.


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50 Dead, 406 taken to the hospital.(just reported on NBC) Alleged Shooter, Stephen Paddock, 64 of Nevada.

Just awful.. Need to check on Relatives living there. Not sure if any are Country Music fans and attended that concert, but I need to check to be sure.. Little worried at the moment.


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I wonder what the motivation was for a 64 year old man to do this?

To injured/kill over 250 people also tells us that dude had some serious fire power.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
I wonder what the motivation was for a 64 year old man to do this?

To injured/kill over 250 people also tells us that dude had some serious fire power.
I don't think there is "motivation" for something like this. There are just some sick people in the world. There is no such things as motivation when comes to killings and hurting this many people.

Not trying to combat your question, just saying in general. The press always say what motivated the shooter or killer, or what have you. I always thought it was a loaded term. Someone to do anything of mass harm is just plain ol crazy, to me its as simple as that.

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I think it's important to understand motivating factors behind events like this, that way we can prepare and possibly prevent another one from happening.

If you just chalk Hitler up to being a crazy person, well then you do nothing to help prevent another million Jews from being slaughtered in the future.


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I wonder what the motivation was for a 64 year old man to do this?

To injured/kill over 250 people also tells us that dude had some serious fire power.
I don't think there is "motivation" for something like this. There are just some sick people in the world. There is no such things as motivation when comes to killings and hurting this many people.

Not trying to combat your question, just saying in general. The press always say what motivated the shooter or killer, or what have you. I always thought it was a loaded term. Someone to do anything of mass harm is just plain ol crazy, to me its as simple as that.

There has to be a trigger (call it a motivation if you want).. you don't live a 64 year life free of violence and arrests (as far as we know at this point).. and then one day plan and execute the worst mass killing in US history. Saying a person who does this is "just crazy" is a cop out answer.


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I agree, I'm sure in the next days we'll get an idea of what motivated him.

But wow, I saw some clips and he laid down some heavy bullets with whatever weapon he used. That was not a semi-automatic.

It's just sad anymore listening to the news or social media.

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ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack. They claim responsibility for a lot of attacks though. Sometimes it's hard to know how much truth there is to these things, so take it for what it's worth:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...t-a7978941.html

Isis has claimed responsibility for the deadliest mass shooting in American history.

Police said at least 50 people were killed and 200 wounded when a gunman opened fire on dense crowds at a concert in Las Vegas.

Officials have identified the shooter as Stephen Paddock, a 64-year-old American who had multiple weapons on the 32nd floor of a nearby hotel, where he is believed to have killed himself.

A statement published by the group's Amaq propaganda agency claimed the attacker was a “soldier of the Islamic State”.

“The Las Vegas attacker is a soldier of the Islamic State in response to calls to target coalition countries,” it said.

Isis also claimed the gunman “converted to Islam several months ago”, without providing more details.

The wording of the release is similar to other attacks that have been inspired, rather than directed, by Isis.

The claim, which cannot be independently verified, came days after Isis released a speech purporting to be from the group's leader.

A 46-minute audio recording appeared to show Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi praise the jihadis killed in the battle to retake Mosul and other former Isis territories.

He urged followers to “intensify one attack after another against the infidels”, following a spike in global terror attacks.

Security officials and experts have long warned that Isis will seek to maintain momentum and legitimacy through terror as its so-called “caliphate” dwindles in Iraq and Syria.

The shooting started shortly after 10pm local time, with footage showing concert-goers throwing themselves to the ground and running as several extended rounds of automatic gunfire rang out.

Police initially said the shooting was not being treated as a terror attack but no updated statement has been made since Isis released its claim.

It came after the group claimed responsibility for a stabbing attack that left two young women dead in the French city of Marseille earlier on Sunday, and car and knife attack in Edmonton, Canada.

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http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/isis-claims-responsibility-for-las-vegas-massacre/

ISIS claims responsibility for Las Vegas massacre

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas rampage, saying without offering evidence that the shooter had converted to Islam a few months ago, according to reports.

“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition,” the terror group’s news agency Amaq said in reference to the US-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East.

“The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq added, according to Reuters.

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That clip posted above is eerie.

The rat-a-tat-tats.

Just picturing the shooter unloading bullets on the crowd below, not knowing where death is coming from.

At a Las Vegas music festival.

Hundreds of people with bullet wounds.

I’m rambling.

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http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/isis-claims-responsibility-for-las-vegas-massacre/

ISIS claims responsibility for Las Vegas massacre

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas rampage, saying without offering evidence that the shooter had converted to Islam a few months ago, according to reports.

“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition,” the terror group’s news agency Amaq said in reference to the US-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East.

“The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq added, according to Reuters.


Wow it was Isis and not some deranged American citizen. That cleared it up. Not.


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so a middle class, 64 year old white dude just up and decided to convert to islam a few months prior to committing the worst mass shooting in US history?


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so a middle class, 64 year old white dude just up and decided to convert to islam a few months prior to committing the worst mass shooting in US history?


That's what ISIS has claimed and what much of the media is reporting.

It does seem a little bit odd though, doesn't it? Surely more will come out soon.

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well the media is only reporting what ISIS claimed, they aren't reporting that he actually converted.

from your own links it says none of what they claimed can be verified, at least at the moment.


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well the media is only reporting what ISIS claimed, they aren't reporting that he actually converted.

from your own links it says none of what they claimed can be verified, at least at the moment.

Yes, that was clearly stated in both articles. I even wrote this before posting the first one:

"ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack. They claim responsibility for a lot of attacks though. Sometimes it's hard to know how much truth there is to these things, so take it for what it's worth:"

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Early reports of details and motives are usually proven inaccurate.


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Early reports of details and motives are usually proven inaccurate.


yep.

it will be interesting to see what the cops get from the woman that was with him. wonder if she will talk or keep silent.


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regardless, this is an act of terrorism.


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Early reports of details and motives are usually proven inaccurate.


yep.

it will be interesting to see what the cops get from the woman that was with him. wonder if she will talk or keep silent.

From what I gather she has been cleared of wrongdoing.

Thoughts and prayers to all the victims. Last I checked the reports said 50+ dead and 400+ in the hospital. Just an unimaginable tragedy. There's no doubt that many of the victims are critically wounded.

I've on the strip many times, including Mandalay Bay. I have some friends in Vegas right now (all safe) and another who got home last weekend. It's kind of surreal.

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Update...

58 Dead
504 injured

Bless them all and their families.

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Now reporting 58 dead and over 500 injured. So sad.


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Not sure if anyone posted this yet. Probably unrelated but you never know.

The witness said a woman and a man were escorted away by security after threatening people at the concert 45 minutes before the shooting.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-chillingly-said-everyone-going-11274113


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From what I gather she has been cleared of wrongdoing.


I don't see how they could clear anyone associated with this guy from any wrong doing this early in an investigation.


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What a horrible tragedy. I pray for those who were shot, and for their loved ones and families.


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From what I gather she has been cleared of wrongdoing.


I don't see how they could clear anyone associated with this guy from any wrong doing this early in an investigation.


because she is and has been out of country


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Revenge is so powerful.

I can feel what States that have committed monstrosities feel.

If this had happened in 1930 Soviet Union, Stalin would have tortured the shooter’s family to death. Then he would have killed the shooter’s neighbors. He would have killed anyone who knew the shooter. Then he would have killed the whole town where the shooter was born, the town he lived in.

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This is a travesty to human life. A tragedy of epic proportions. The reports about the shooter are too new and unsubstantiated for me to draw any type of conclusion at this time.

However, my thought, prayers and best wishes go out to the victims and their families. May God be with them all.


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