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ESPN's entire roster lol

Are we even going to acknowledge what a ridiculous topic this is. What does being attractive have to do with anything regarding the news?

If you are having a fantasy why does she need to talk?

It just proves that the media knows how to play their audience.

Leave my wife out of this. And send all the sandpaper you want, have you priced it lately? Any grit will do. lol

Yep. Which is exactly why ESPN and Fox have a very similar archetype for their female employees.

Apparently you do.

Funny. Now shut up.

Our founding fathers said those rights are endowed by God.. but it has been made very clear that politicians control our rights and we have them at their behest... God has nothing to do with it any more.

I disagree with Spiral's insistence that the players are protesting for equality anyway. Fulfilling their ever increasing need to be catered to while deflecting blame for their grievances to all groups except the one most responsible would be a more accurate description.

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i always found it funny how people go "these athletes need to stick to sports and stop talking about politics"!!

doesn't that mean the 'normal' people also need to stick to their profession and not talk about politics?

if you're an accountant, stick to accounting and stop talking about politics!!

if you're a programmer, stick to computers you stupid nerd and stop talking about politics!!

if you're in construction, shut your dirty mouth and stick to building stuff!!!

I think the point being made is talk politics on your own time.. on your off day, in the off season... etc. Keep it off the field..

Now you can agree with that or not, it's up to you... but it's not "Don't do politics", it's "Don't do politics when I want to see you play sports."

That's probably wise advice on company time.

you and i both know that people talk about politics at work all the time.

it's nothing new. it goes on before we were born, it will go on after we bite the dust. it's a double standard, and quite honestly a stupid comment to make in the first place.

it's like the people who watch their favorite actors/actresses in political shows/movies, then complain when those same people actually make comments on said politics.

I disagree. Yes, me and my co-workers talk about politics all the time... INTERNALLY.... I do NOT make big bold political statements in front of my clients or potential clients... in the NFL, the fans are the ultimate clients.. we pay the bills through watching, attending, and buying gear...

If you want to take a stand and risk alienating half of your clients, then be prepared for the fall out. I know I would be fired immediately if I lost a client because I said or did something that was politically offensive to them.... as would most people.

The players are doing this in front of tens of thousands of paying customers in every stadium. For many fans, taking their family to a football game, along with parking, concessions, etc. might be a week's worth of discretionary spending.

Then to go see dozens of players take a knee, against all social norms, to disrespect the flag and country that has given the players riches beyond their wildest dreams, just has to turn a lot of people off. I agree that it's peaceful, well within the players' rights, and certainly preferable to some other things (e.g. rioting.)

NFL has always attracted a relatively conservative base. These are people who generally love the country and the flag, and the NFL has played off of that (read: profited) by emphasizing that angle. All those flag celebrations and honoring the military, while honorable, are surely done by the NFL because it improves their bottom line. It doesn't really have anything to do with football.

It's a double-edged sword though. The backlash from players making their stand taking a knee during the Anthem should have been predictable.

The Browns resemble a black power group more than they do an NFL team. If that's your thing, more.. power to you. Just don't be surprised when people start to discover that they don't actually have to watch football. There are plenty of other things to do on a Sunday. And that actually gives me an idea for a new thread.

that's not the nfl or the players fault that nobody cares enough about your business to give you the time of day for whatever conversation you want to bring up.

you don't make a big bold statement about it. fine. nobody would pay attention anyway, but that's beside the point.

i didn't say anything about them not deserving fall out. they have the freedom to do what they want just like you have the freedom to trash them or not watch.

which, btw, you are clearly NOT doing. you're still watching, still buying gear.

but my point still stands. if you talk about politics at work, then it's a double standard when you cry about someone else in another profession doing the same thing.

it doesn't make it illegal. it doesn't make it a violation. it just makes you a hypocrite.

but being a hypocrite is protected by the constitution. just like the players kneeling is.

you went through all that and completely failed to understand the point.

if you talk about politics at work, it's a double standard for you to cry and whine about other people in another profession doing the same thing.

doesn't make it illegal. just makes you a hypocrite.

do any of you play the anthem right before stepping into work?

we all the answer to that.

No, it doesn't. If they talk about it at practice or in the locker room or over a beer after the game.. or basically any time the cameras aren't on and the reporters aren't there... then THAT is the equivalent of what we do.. nobody knows. It has nothing to do with visibility... whether I make my political statement in front of 1 client or 1 million clients, is irrelevant... I don't make political statements in front of clients, they chose to... as one of those clients, I get to decide what to do with that.

They take it out in the world of their business in front of all to see.. they chose to do that. Which is what makes them different than almost everybody else who talks politics at work.

it absolutely does make it hypocritical.

you're trying to make a distinction with internal vs external when there is none.

it doesn't matter if you're on the phone, talking about it internally or outside where other people can hear you.

at the end of the day, guess what you're doing DC? talking about politics at work.

so defend your actions all you want. the "yea, but" doesn't fly with me. you're talking about politics at work. period.

I don't think he understands that.

If you talk to a co worker at work about politics, you AREN'T shoving it customers/clients faces.

again, trying to make the distinction that you aren't "shoving it customers/clients faces" means absolutely nothing.

if you are discussing politics at work, then you are doing THE SAME EXACT THING as these players are.

it doesn't matter if you went into the basement to discuss it. it doesn't matter if you went to the cleaning closet to talk about it with others.

you engaged in the ACT of discussing politics at work.

that makes you a hypocrite when complaining about someone else in another profession doing it.

No. It doesn't. Period.

Anyways, I didn't realize the kneeling was about politics. You, and others, have said it wasn't. It was about "equality". So, it IS about politics now?

I normally wouldn't make comments or political statements that clients and such may find offensive or disagreeable. That's what Dawgtalkers is for

well equality is closing tied to politics.

seeing as we need politicians help to change things and all.

odd seeing as how a few months ago you made a failed post/thread about how businesses should be public with their political views.

nice to see you pull a 180.

I'm impressed by your memory but I recall there were some finer details in that post as well.

The idea was that one possible strategy, for a smaller company that does not have a huge customer base, would be to clearly stake out a side and make controversial statements that side would find agreeable and the other side would detest, such that those posts/videos/tweets/whatever go viral and you get free advertising as well a more staunch following from your 'side'.

Consensus in that thread was that it would not be a good idea for established, national brands such as Coca Cola, McDonald's, and the NFL, and I agree. I do think there is something to it though, especially for smaller companies and under the right circumstances.

i have very good memory.

regardless, your overall point was exactly that, though.

so you're ok with businesses doing that, just as long as it's the kind of business YOU are comfortable with.

doesn't work like that.

Swish does have a very good memory. He even mentioned my name on something I stated......years ago?

Very good memory. Sometimes the details get fogged, but he has a good memory.

because i actually pay attention to what you guys post.

just a respect thing.

I remember your name as well as your big shiny noggin from a couple videos you posted a while back.

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Get this and go on youtube and watch all her vids.

Talking politics and protesting are two different things.

Most would get fired for PROTESTING at work.

That's a total BS post!

I'm betting it's more 75% or higher.

The eyebrows tell the tale.

It's till talking about politics.

And so what? It's not the NFL players fault your job got policies stating no protest allowed. No such policy exist stating the NFL players must stand for the anthem.

You stated TALKING POLITICS at work not protesting one is a physical act which most place frown on. You know you're wrong.

Loss of revenue may change the NFL policy. People are tired of it already.

Protesting, talking politics. Sorry but it's under the same realm. You're trying really hard but at the end of the day, I'm right, and you're just an emotional snowflake.

The NFL is gonna go from a multi billion dollar corporation to....a multi billion dollar corporation.

You're crying about a whole lot of nothing. Hope you didn't vote for the draft dodger. Cause that would make your outrage fake, and also make you a hypocrite. And that applies to anyone who voted for trump whining about this.

Y'all hate the players for the way they are protesting for injustice but stay silent on the people protest actual hate and superiority over others.

Y'all want the rules changed for players to stand for the anthem, yet want rights protected for those who preach hate and the murder of anyone who isn't white.

Sorry but that's crap. Either everyone is protected, or no one is.

I didn't serve this country to pick and choose. I swore an oath to protect the constitution for ALL citizens, regardless on if I agree with them or not. All these other vets better also remember that as well.

I'd didn't fight for the stupid ass anthem. I didn't fight for the flag. I fought for the country, and no symbolism or song can replicate COUNTRY.

I'll start taking you snowflakes seriously about the flag the moment you make the TRECHEROUS CONFEDERATE flag ILLEGAL. If you care about symbolism so much, then that flag represent the very opposite of what the American flag is SUPPOSED to mean.

But as normal you whiny ass conservatives like to pick and choose what part of the constitution you want to uphold.

About as consistent as these fake ass Christians. Meaning there is NO consistency.