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Feds just stated he had no connection to any international terrorist groups.

So I just logged in to this. It's mind boggling. Absolutely terrible. RIP to the victims.

His brother was being interviewed just this morning. he's lost, can't figure out why his brother did this. Finds it hard to believe. Having a ton of trouble thinking back to see if there was something he may have said, or something that may have happened and the poor guy was at a loss. Total loss.



I feel bad for this guy. He had no idea it was coming.

For anyone who is interested, this video allows you to hear the gunshots and the amount of firepower involved.

You will not see anything graphic, but the audio is here...

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d52_1506944699

So was Isis.

So this guy brings all these guns into the hotel? How is that not suspicious.

Man they were playing that on the Today program this morning. It was a lot longer, so many shots fired, people scattering all over the place. Just saw where there are 58 dead confirmed, over 500 injured (meaning maybe not all shot but perhaps injured trying to get out)

Apparently he checked into the hotel on the 28th. So it kinda looks as if he was planning this. So whatever triggered this action, didn't just happen last night.

At any given time, anyone can just go off on a killing spree...

Some will say we need to get the guns out of the hands of the citizens.. I don't agree with that. But if there is a better way of determining the risk of certain people getting those weapons, I'd like to hear about it.

Most, if not all, could have been broken down and put in a travel bag, etc. AK's, AR's, etc.

No doubt imo that's what he did.

Prayers to all the victims and their families.

You don't do something like this and its just "out of the blue" or on a whim. This guy had been planning this for a long time (based on the facts we know with his weapons, the way the room was situated, etc.).

I also find it hard that just an "ordinary person" all of a sudden does this. There had to have been comments or actions over the course of this person's life with signs of distress or illogical thinking.

And although it may seem like a "cop out", the fact remains, this person was crazy. Motivation, mental illness, snapped, whatever....if you do something like this, your nuts.

I agree with you and I'm not really trying to pick an argument... I'm just sick and tired of "praying for cities", hearing about acts of heroism, and waiting for the details to come out in the aftermath of senseless act of violence after senseless act of violence..

Will you be surprised if it is found to be a well planned and calculated act?
We have had nothing but vile hatred flowing through the veins of America over the last year.
Could this man be on one side of the argument?
Could the audience have been considered a target on the other side?

I hear you. I was just trying to clarify. Wasn't trying to argue. I don't think arguing over is going to do any good - and that goes for any aspect of the situation. Its just a disgusting tragedy. And the sad part is, there are people on both sides just waiting and hoping they can use their advantage of an argument.

I know people on the left are hoping it was a Christian looking to kill blm

and I know people on the right are hoping it was another Bernie supporter.

all just to make a point. its almost as said as the act itself.

I am seeing some similarities between this shooter and the Congressional Baseball practice shooter who was a 66 year old Left wing activist.

Don't be surprised if it is like that.

We will see.

IDK what to think right now. I am trying to hold out for more info. But I do know, no matter what, its about time we stop pointing fingers and start addressing the real problem.

Agreed, but I don't know if people want to address what the "real problem" is. I almost feel like pop-psychology doesn't want to delve into the problem because they're not going to like the answers they find. It's just easier to blame "guns" or "religion" or other superficial reasons.

What I do know is that people seem to no longer be content with suicide, and feel that they have to take as many people with them in the process.

Yes, I am not saying I know for sure but the thought is crossing my mind.

Oh I def agree. Its not guns religion or politics.

Its much deeper than that, and honestly I think we are too far gone to actually fix it.

No, the guy is local yet had a room in the just the right place to pull this off plus all of that firepower? No way was this a spur of the moment thing..


We have.. and both sides have blamed the other side for causing it.. which is why it isn't getting any better. A little self-reflection would go a long way right about now from both side.


Quite possibly.


Are you implying that the country audience (more conservative) was the target and that he, therefore, is liberal?... yea, that's possible. I'm sure as they scour his computer and dig into his life, those things will become a little more clear.

Well with 40 it has to be a Muslim or a liberal. At least he hasn't mentioned the possibility the guy is an illegal alien yet.

Somehow that seems more important to him than the victims.

Once again you show everyone the most important thing to you is to personally attack other posters for their thoughts.

Eve was right.

You're the one looking for some angle with no evidence to back it up that someone with whom you disagree with has to be responsible.

And even Eve is right more often than you are.

At least she understands the healthcare problem and that the GOP just wants to make it worse, not better.

DC replied to me logically and I showed my appreciation by liking his post.

You shall not receive a like from me.

And yet people trash my generation as being obsessed with likes.

.02

He never said it was a fact, just it was his thoughts. Clearly stated that we don't know yet, but just felt that way.

Old people have taken over FB and the likes, just watch my mom post.

We need to bring back MySpace

Never underestimate old people, we run the place.

Time in.
Experience.
Life Savings from investments.
Political contacts.
Been there done that.
Power over our children and grandchildren because they foolishly love us.

I liked that for you.. then I retweeted it.

j/c:

I hate when people start the left/right....old/young BS.

A ton of people lost their lives. Show some freaking respect!

DC,
I always go to personal first, like did his girlfriend leave him or did he get fired. After that, its something that made him disillusioned. But he had some issue that are the NOT the usual red flags!!

bro i swear half these shootings always start with the guy losing some chick.

that has to account for damn near all the murder-suicides we see in america.

dude's brother said he was worth millions.

Yup,,
And BTW, his girlfriend was in the P.I. Did she leave him?? He was not broke, he had money. Was not with anything political, so what made him plan to that detail and start shooting. I would question the girlfriend.

Here you go Eve.

He had 10 suitcases in his room so.......

Easy to bring in X amount of rifles and a lotta mags and ammo.

He was in his room for a few days before and prob just casually bringin in suitcases.

I'm sure when he was out fetchin guns and ammo he never used/hung up the "Maid Service please" sign. The "Please Do Not Disturb" sign prob got a lotta use.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingn...ents/ar-AAsOiNt


Hayley Geftman-Gold, a VP and senior counsel in strategic transactions at CBS a the broadcaster, wrote on Twitter Monday just hours after a shooting in Las Vegas at a country-music festival left at least 58 dead and hundreds more injured, “If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing. I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans are often republican gun toters.”


Really?? Very sad.

Earned her firing. Filthily.

Wow?!? First this is incredibly sad that some sick freak would do this... But that response is equally sickening...

I hope we figure out why this guy did it... He got off easy in my opinion

What a disgusting person.

Doesn't make sense more than most of these. 64 yrs old, retired, played cards at 100 a hand, won 225k in a night playing in Vegas-a high roller. Owned real estate, worth a lot-no trouble in the past.
But also had 17 guns with him, ammonia nitrate in his car, 18 more weapons in his home, thousands of rounds in his home. Had both Windows ready to go. Planning went into this.

How do you stop this. You cant. You cant stop outdoor events, large grouts at concerts, school events games. And you surely aren't going to ever do something about guns.
So you try to learn how to stop the next one and mourn the victims