DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Mitchell Trubisky to start next week.

Probably throw for 4 td and 400 yds.

I think the fans are going to love the guy. I would've loved to have him here in Cleveland. He is light years ahead of Kizer!

he has yet to play a game...

the problem is, neither has Garrett

It's only his first game, but it was a very ugly game for Trubisky against a Vikings team that has allowed a 90 passer rating, more yards per game than we have and have been relatively poor.

Trubisky went 12/25 for 125 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. Don't let the stat line fool you, however, as his touchdown bounced out of the safety's hand and into Zach Miller's. Trubisky had a few interceptions dropped, and only one strong play called back on holding that was along the lines of a 25/30 yarder.

I certainly wasn't watching on and finding myself upset with Myles Garrett.

The Bears did what I hoped they would. A whole lot of screens, slants, bootlegs and rollouts to give Trubisky half-field reads and long-play intended targets. It's nice, it provides the better stat line, but your quarterback doesn't learn how to be an NFL quarterback. He learns how to execute basic, schemed passes. The did that with him all preseason, so he's not exactly getting a first rate education. I can handle a drop-back passer making mistakes, but in a spoon fed offense, you better look unstoppable.

I know that's an overreaction, but I think I'm jaded because any time a player has a good game in the NFL, it's like beat writers flock to the draft boards to see if we passed on that player at any time. I know this for sure - If Trubisky had a good game, we'd have seen a million "Browns passed on Trubisky and Watson" tweets.

After watching Wentz and Deshaun, I think we should be very unhappy with the FO evaluation skills. With Trubisky its just too soon

Yeah its really hard to go against the Garrett pick...hopefully we will find out why soon enough.

But I was a Wentz pimp and really liked Mitch for a possible 2nd pick in the first round...I think we were trying to move up and why the Bears moved up one spot to get him.

jmho

5 games in and we know how the eval skills are for the Browns. I guess I think it's still early.

No you were not a Wentz pimp, there were no Wentz Pimps in here before the draft.

You were a draft RG3 pimp and a Trubisky pimp (but not with the 1st), if I recall, and a draft a QB pimp if Hue thinks the QB suits, but not a get Wentz supporter, quite the contrary. I clearly remind you going on with the idea that there was no QB talent on the draft. In the end you were a supporter of the trade.

Did we have us any Kizer pimps? Not one that I favored. What did Hue hang his hat on with him and Kessler?

I liked what I saw from Mitch and think that he is farther along than Kizer at this point. (although in a simplified offense)

Would I trade a #2 overall pick for him now? No. I wouldn't trade a #2 overall pick for Wentz right now and I wouldn't trade a #12 overall pick right now for Watson either.

Did we have us any Kizer pimps? Not one that I favored. What did Hue hang his hat on with him and Kessler?

No you were not a Wentz pimp, there were no Wentz Pimps in here before the draft.

I don't know what planet you were on before that draft, but it wasn't in this forum. I debated with a lot of people that we should take Wentz. He's been playing very well this season. I'm also only one of a few who said if we must draft a QB in this past years class, it should be Watson. I didn't care for any of the QB's in last years class including Mitch. But if forced to select one, it would have been Watson.

Now just so you know, I'm not trying to toot my own horn. It's far too early in these kids career to tell the long term outcome of any of these QB's final skill set. I think anyone trying to judge them at this point is foolish at best.

You're wrong. tab was very high on Wentz and wanted us to take him w/our first pick. There were also a ton of posters who wanted us to draft Wentz.

I wasn't one of them, but at least I have the decency to admit and to credit those who actually did want the Browns to draft Wentz.

I am not sure why it is so hard for many people on this board to admit when they were wrong or to acknowledge when others are right. I just came from the Gordon thread and we already have posters rewriting history and still blaming those who were right.

But again, eotab was crusading for the Browns to pick Wentz w/the second overall pick and he might have even been saying we should trade up to number one to make sure we get him.

Exactly. Most people were either pimping Wentz or pimping Goff.

If I can recall, most people were saying that there were no worthy QB's and the draft class was weak. So if anything was being pimped was a trade down.

What I can recall is that after the first games of Wentz, and especially after the 2nd half of the season, a large number of posters were still doubting Wentz and defending the trade.

I was not posting much at the time, I had little knowledge on Wentz but had a strong feeling on Zeke, although I thought that probably it was going to be a bad personality fit with us, and after the Manziel deal. I was ok with us drafting Bosa, or even Buckner or Ramsey

I did't want the trade, because last years draft the talent gap was huge.

No, a few of us thought the QB class was weak. Vers, Me a couple of others, but most were either pimping Goff or pimping Wentz.

and yet you guys were wrong....