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PitDAWG #1326540 10/03/17 04:10 PM
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I was speaking strictly towards the offensive side of the ball. Mainly the WR corps. We have 0 talent there without coleman playing, and he still needs to develop.

Completely agree with your last sentence, these people every year say "we are going 8-8" when it is just not going to happen. I like the way we are moving, I actually do (outside of WR...and well Rb, I think Crow needs addressed - he doesn't have the vision).

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Actually I don't believe that our secondary unit is that much better than our WR unit. At least they're not playing like it. It's why some of us were so upset when they let Haden go. Not that Haden was still a pro bowl talent. But he was better than what we have now and with all the cap money we had, there was no excuse to let him go until we had another season to address the position.

Now people are going to try to argue that our secondary is better than I'm stating. But before anyone buys that BS, just remember, we made Brissett look like a pro-bowler.

Now waiting on the "yeah buts".


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PitDAWG #1326546 10/03/17 04:25 PM
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Calhoun and Taylor aren't playing close to the level they was last year
They played physical last year
Peppers isn't even in the same zip code as the rest of the defense cause Williams is such a genius

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I won't go so far as to say we have no talent.neither would I.


What I will say is that the talent we may or may not have is so young and raw that we have no idea how they may develop and what they may become.

I'll take Buster Skrine as an example. He looked lost as hell early in his career. lol But he developed into a decent CB. I would have never believed that he would have gotten to the point where he did after a few years of experience.
but to this point last years draft looks like a draft for backups although Socbert is looking halfway good

On the other hand, we heard all of the wonderful news of how much better Cody Kessler would be in his second season with a year of experience under his belt. He actually regressed. So it can vary greatly from player to player.
i agree

That's why I won't say we are devoid of talent nor will I say we have a lot of talent. Many of our players are rookies and second year players. They are raw an undeveloped. My best guess is that we are a couple of years away from knowing what we have in these young kids.

But those claiming "We look good on paper" are only fooling themselves and have nobody to blame for that but themselves.


Once again i agree


The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Quote:
I won't go so far as to say we have no talent.

What I will say is that the talent we may or may not have is so young and raw that we have no idea how they may develop and what they may become.


Exactly.

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Young talent flashes that talent now and then early on. QB's may take a few years, but they still flash.


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Actually you cannot teach "ACCURACY" per say.
You can teach correct FOOTWORK that will improve ACCURACY.
But the fundamental ACCURATE throwing QBs is a natural thing in a QB...usually its there or it is not. You can make whatever is there better. But its like teaching speed...I can teach anyone to become faster but I can't make a 4.7 guy into a 4.3 guy...its just there or it is not.
jmnho...hope you understand what I am saying???


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