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You've been reposting that for awhile now. It'll take them hiring Richard Spenser as their Director of Marketing for me to stop liking them.
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We can all use a friendly reminder from time to time. Well this thread got off-track. Apologies to those who enjoyed the pre-beer discussion more.
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Vice President Mike Pence leaves Colts-49ers game after players kneel during anthemVice President Mike Pence walked out on his home-state Indianapolis Colts Sunday when members of the opposing team kneeled for the national anthem. "I left today's Colts game because the POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem," Pence tweeted. Leadership!
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Why did he bother showing up in the first place? Them kneeling wasnt exactly an unknown thing.
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Not leadership. He did that as a publicity stunt cause he knew players were gonna kneel.
Leadership would be the majority of fans in the stadium following his lead.
What happened instead? He wasted his money on tickets while nobody else cared about his stunt.
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Why did he bother showing up in the first place? Them kneeling wasnt exactly an unknown thing. Because he is a Colts fan and he walked out because he is second in command of our Nation.
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The Publicity stunt is performed weekly by the multimillionaire entertainers who disrespect our Flag, our Anthem, our Vets and our Nation.
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The Publicity stunt is performed weekly by the multimillionaire entertainers who disrespect our Flag, our Anthem, our Vets and our Nation. I agree about Trump, but it’s not weekly bro. It’s everyday he’s in office.
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Did the VP of TUSoA actually have to pay for tickets?
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM my two cents...
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I think it was in the recently approved budget.
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Not leadership. He did that as a publicity stunt cause he knew players were gonna kneel.
Leadership would be the majority of fans in the stadium following his lead.
What happened instead? He wasted his money on tickets while nobody else cared about his stunt. I cared. Thank God for people like our VP.
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Jerry Jones gives Cowboys players ultimatum: Stand for anthem or sit for gamehttp://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/09...t-for-game.htmlAnd now, thanks to President Trump, the NFL begins to turn the corner. Step by step by step...
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Step by step by step... Lesson's on how dictator's gain power by taking away our freedom of speech. Guns are next. Enjoy.
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Step by step by step... Lesson's on how dictator's gain power by taking away our freedom of speech. Guns are next. Enjoy. I and many others see it as Leadership returning Respect, Honor and Patriotism to a Nation where many have lost their way.
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Hearing the VP's walkout at the 9ers game cost like 300K! And Trump claims to have put him up to it, making it a political stunt!
Can't imagine how NFL kneelers protesting injustices toward black and brown people feel about a president that tries to change the meaning of their protest and attempts to drown them out...
They probably feel oppressed by the US government from the highest level. Are you ok with this?
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Step by step by step... Lesson's on how dictator's gain power by taking away our freedom of speech. Guns are next. Enjoy. I and many others see it as Leadership returning Respect, Honor and Patriotism to a Nation where many have lost their way. Not very many. And Pence....all he did was free up Sunday traffic in Indianapolis after a Colts game. And he missed an exiting game as well. Sad. Boo Hoo The Colts win. Nice boycott VP. Boycott the Colts right into the Superbowl.
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Todd Starnes: I reckon Pence finally got tired of NFL malcontents' boorish behavior http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/0...nal-anthem.htmlOn Sunday, Vice President and American Patriot Mike Pence walked out of the Indianapolis Colts game against the San Franciscio 49ers after several players took a knee during the national anthem.
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ahh, business and government imposed patriotism.
how fascist of them.
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So? I'm not defending George Soro's resistance but is there a law or rule against the NFLPA from donating money to whom they wish?
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Pence did nothing more than create a publicity stunt at the cost of the taxpayer. Pence hadn't been to a Colts game in three years. Now suddenly, when Trump made this a huge issue, he decides to go to a game? lmao
And when the 49'ers were playing no less.
The taxpayers just footed the bill for the VP to use your money on a PR stunt to further outrage people over something that doesn't even happen during the game.
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Pence did nothing more than make America's Point clear!
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Pence did nothing more than create a publicity stunt at the cost of the taxpayer. Pence hadn't been to a Colts game in three years. Now suddenly, when Trump made this a huge issue, he decides to go to a game? lmao
And when the 49'ers were playing no less.
The taxpayers just footed the bill for the VP to use your money on a PR stunt to further outrage people over something that doesn't even happen during the game.
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#snowflake The players did the same thing but it was called a protest...at the fans cost.
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So the fans pay for The National anthem? I thought they were paying to watch an NFL game.
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Pence did nothing more than make America's Point clear! By playing politics at a sporting event on America's dime.
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Pence did nothing more than make America's Point clear! By playing politics at a sporting event on America's dime. Honoring our Flag, our Anthem and America are not considered to be politics to most Americans.
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Only this administration as far as I can remember.
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Lie to yourself if you wish but this Administration STANDS for those things in the face of those who disrespect those things.
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Lie to yourself if you wish but this Administration STANDS for those things in the face of those who disrespect those things. By using tax payer dollars to make it a cheap ass publicity stunt.
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Change of narrative works on short attention span types.
This was never about the flag until Dolt 45 gave his drones their marching orders.
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Ethics Group Blasts Pence For Using Government Travel For Colts Stunt https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethics-group-blasts-pence-using-113644480.htmlIt’s hilarious that kneeling in protest for civil rights and police brutality is somehow unAmerican, yet those same people will look at the fraud, waste, and abuse of taxpayer money from our VP as showing leadership and patriotism Just say y’all hate equality and civil rights. Stop dancing around the issue.
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I see protesting the protesters doesn't seem allowed?
And for those that are saying it was a waste of taxpayer money, that's fine. The money was spent. Now, I would have to assume had Pence stayed for the entire game, no one would have an issue with the expense.
Fairly sure Pence didn't know the niners would kneel.
Fairly sure Pence attended the game because of the Manning deal.
But, legally and lawfully protesting the protesters is an issue now because he "wasted" gov't. money? If everyone held to that standard, we'd be good.
Come on people.
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Ethics Group Blasts Pence For Using Government Travel For Colts Stunt https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethics-group-blasts-pence-using-113644480.htmlIt’s hilarious that kneeling in protest for civil rights and police brutality is somehow unAmerican, yet those same people will look at the fraud, waste, and abuse of taxpayer money from our VP as showing leadership and patriotism Just say y’all hate equality and civil rights. Stop dancing around the issue. The kneeling was to bring awareness to the issue, which has been done so at this point there is no need to kneel anymore unless the agenda has changed, The continual kneeling is now political on the fans dime,
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jc Jemele Hill suspended by ESPN for 2 weeks. http://thehill.com/homenews/media/354588...al-media-policyESPN suspends Jemele Hill for violation of social media policy ESPN has suspended host Jemele Hill for what it said was a second violation of the network’s social media guidelines on Monday. Hill in a tweet said her followers should consider boycotting advertisers of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones after Jones threatened to bench any player who kneels during the national anthem. “Jemele Hill has been suspended for two weeks for a second violation of our social media guidelines,” the network said in a statement. “She previously acknowledged letting her colleagues and company down with an impulsive tweet." “In the aftermath, all employees were reminded of how individual tweets may reflect negatively on ESPN and that such actions would have consequences,” the statement continued. “Hence this decision.” Hill had previously come under fire for calling President Trump a “white supremacist.” ESPN's decision reflects the close financial partnership the network has with the NFL. The sports network pays the football league close to $2 billion annually to broadcast "Monday Night Football," a deal renewed in 2011 and good through 2021, and has suspended prominent employees in the past for speaking out against top figures in the NFL. In September 2014, the network suspended columnist Bill Simmons after he criticized NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. ESPN announced in 2015 that it wouldn't be renewing Simmons's contract. The latest controversy surrounding Hill comes after she spoke out about Jones, the owner of the Cowboys, who said he would bench any player who knelt during the national anthem. Hill came under fire last month for calling President Trump a “white supremacist” and a “bigot” in a series of tweets. ESPN issued a statement following Hill’s tweets, saying they “do not represent the position of ESPN.” “We have addressed this with Jemele and she recognizes her actions were inappropriate,” the network said in a statement. The White House called for Hill to be fired after the incident, calling her tweets “outrageous.” “That is one of the more outrageous comments that anybody could make and certainly is something that is a fireable offense by ESPN,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters at a press briefing. Trump slammed ESPN days later for its “politics” following Hill’s comments and demanded the network apologize for the “untruth.” "ESPN is paying a really big price for its politics (and bad programming). People are dumping it in RECORD numbers. Apologize for untruth!” Trump wrote on Twitter. Hill has continued criticism of Trump since her initial remarks. After Trump referred to any NFL player that kneels during the national anthem as a “son of a bitch,” Hill said Trump’s comments would only cause more protests.
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Change of narrative works on short attention span types.
This was never about the flag until Dolt 45 gave his drones their marching orders.
I disagree. Whether or not Kaepernick's protest was disrespectful of the flag was a topic of conversation from the very beginning. From August 2016: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...national-anthem"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. The 49ers issued a statement about Kaepernick's decision: "The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem."
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I see protesting the protesters doesn't seem allowed? Sure it is. Nobody prevented him from going to the game. Nobody forced him to stay at the game. He should still expect some criticism from those who disagree, which is all this is. Then, there's this, too: The timing of Pence's departure from Lucas Oil Stadium on his way to the West Coast and Trump's follow-up tweet led some to suggest that the vice president's departure was a preplanned stunt.
NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard tweeted that reporters traveling with the vice president were not even brought into the stadium with him. "As media pool has been made aware, a staffer told pool that VPOTUS may depart the game early. Did not indicate how early," Hillyard tweeted.
...The vice president, who served as governor of Indiana and was born and raised in the state, said he attended the game in part to cheer on legendary former Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, who was being honored by the team Sunday. Pence, however, was long gone by the time Manning was inducted into the team's ring of honor at halftime. * So it would appear that this was planned from the start. He did not spontaneously leave in a fit of pique. When the press corps is told to not waste their time/it'll be a short stay, it's apparent that the fix is in. *http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/08/pence-nfl-game-anthem-protest-243583
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or a country that oppresses black people and people of color," This is what it was about. But you refuse to acknowledge the real narrative. None of this comes as a surprise, however. I have, after all spent 61 years in this country.
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I thought VP Pence made a powerful message. Fan support is not unconditional. Frankly he did what many fans should do: walk out. Better yet, don't even buy the ticket in the first place (irony noted.)
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I see protesting the protesters doesn't seem allowed? Sure it is. Nobody prevented him from going to the game. Nobody forced him to stay at the game. He should still expect some criticism from those who disagree, which is all this is. Ah, he should expect some criticism. Got it. Does it go both ways? Then, there's this, too: The timing of Pence's departure from Lucas Oil Stadium on his way to the West Coast and Trump's follow-up tweet led some to suggest that the vice president's departure was a preplanned stunt.
NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard tweeted that reporters traveling with the vice president were not even brought into the stadium with him. "As media pool has been made aware, a staffer told pool that VPOTUS may depart the game early. Did not indicate how early," Hillyard tweeted.
...The vice president, who served as governor of Indiana and was born and raised in the state, said he attended the game in part to cheer on legendary former Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, who was being honored by the team Sunday. Pence, however, was long gone by the time Manning was inducted into the team's ring of honor at halftime. * So it would appear that this was planned from the start. He did not spontaneously leave in a fit of pique. When the press corps is told to not waste their time/it'll be a short stay, it's apparent that the fix is in. *http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/08/pence-nfl-game-anthem-protest-243583 I don't know who Vaughn Hilliard is, but okay. He works for NBC. He also "tweeted" it. Does that make it fact? Perhaps. I also know Canfora (is that his name?) tweeted that he spoke with Kapernick, and that Kap was going to stand for the anthem if he ever got hired again". And then Canfora later tweeted along the lines of "Well, that subject wasn't ever brought up really." Tweets are news?
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or a country that oppresses black people and people of color," This is what it was about. But you refuse to acknowledge the real narrative. None of this comes as a surprise, however. I have, after all spent 61 years in this country. Swish and I did talk about it for a while earlier in the thread.
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