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Why not? It's what he actually ran on in 2015 and 2016.

"Obamacare? That's gone on Day One. Day One, folks, believe me."

Got the second biggest cheers at his rallies, just behind The Wall and just before "get'em outta here." Now he does a total 180 on a central plank in his platform, and all his trucker hat-wearing rally goers are OK with that?

He really was right:
From your posts, you'd support him if he shot someone.
Heck, from the tone of your posts, you might even provide him an alibi and a garage to hide out in!

Dang, son. You sure keep this place interesting, I'll give you that.

Nice twist on reality.

The day Trump got elected the Republicans told him they got this.
First thing they will do is kill the boondoggle of ObamaCare and replace it with something that actually works.

He took them at their word.

First big mistake of his nascent presidency.
Second big mistake: being lazy, and expecting someone else to handle it. Everyone could see his detachment from the day-to-day on health care reform. Tepid demeanor. A handful of tweets. One or two visits to The Hill. Quite the opposite of 44, who for over two years worked his natural azz off with hundreds of meetings, scores of visits to the hill, and multiple rallies in the public to get the job done.

Leadership.
Focus.
Maturity.
Work ethic.
Results.

Yea, ok, Trump is lazy.

You will never see clearly through hate filled eyes.

That's a bit extreme. Obama drove through a bill that was poorly thought out and probably even worse in its implementation. It's slowly falling apart under its own weight. But hey, he got to check that box so... who cares, right?

What Trump did/is doing is just an even worse version ("crap... I said I would do this, so let's just throw this junk out there so we can check the box and move on to something else").

Trump just signed executive orders to help those left without insurance by ObamaCare to now get insurance.

Rand Paul says this is historic as 28 million Americans who were left without will now be able to get insurance.

The President and Senator Paul say Insurance Companies will now be fighting to get as many new customers as they can as competition will be across State Lines.

President Trump says people should call the companies and negotiate, yes negotiate, the best plan at the best price you can get!

Executive orders that say what exactly?

That's the problem. Obamacare certainly has a lot of issues. Replacing it sounds like a pretty good idea to me. The problem is that the GOP seems to feel "replacing it with anything" is somehow an answer. They don't seem to understand that if they replace it, they actually need to come up with a legitimate plan that's better, not worse.

For you...

Trump clears way for ObamaCare 'alternatives' in new executive order that goes around a stalled Congress

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...d-congress.html

That's good for people with nationwide employers.

Not everyone has that though.

Conservatives don't like better. Better is bad. Worse is best right 40?

From what I have found and according to your lover boy Rand, this really benefits people without Insurance especially Small Businesses.

I am sure more details will be posted soon on the web as this just happened this morning.

I guess then I am not understanding what "Employers can form groups across state lines" means then. I assumed it meant employers with offices in multiple states can use the same insurance policies. I don't know why random businesses would want to band together to buy insurance that sounds weird.

Regardless, it wont help me because I can't buy group insurance.

But I was thinking of you when they talked about it this morning and I came away thinking it would be of great benefit to you.

I am no expert but you should investigate it.

Hope it helps.

It'll hurt you since the healthier people in your pool are about to flock for cheaper healthcare.

Trump's a loser who can't get anything done. Can't even get rid of the individual mandate, what a joke.

It would be great if I could buy group insurance!

I will send curly haired Rand Paul over with an Insurance packet.

Good. I will use his tie to tie him to the bed.

You go girl!

They can do that now....I work in Pittsburgh, my employer is based in TN, my insurance is based through TN and I have the same policy as the employees there.

That's basically what most states offer when they adopted a state ran AHC exchanges.

Georgia opted out of having a state run AHC exchange, along with some other blue states that were opposed to the AHC act. The original plan was to have every state start AHC exchange, but some blue states balked so that part of the AHC bill was revised. Blame it on your state and local gov't leaders for that issue.

Georgia uses the federally-run health insurance exchange instead.

And Oh .... ties leave marks.

Ga has always been that way even before the ACA. They dont care. Thats one reason I dont want healthcare tossed back to the states. My state sucks in that arena.

No, employers can already do that, they just use the HQ as their home office. My company has offices in 7 or 8 states and we all have the same insurance.

What it means is a small business that only has offices in GA could buy insurance from an insurance company in TN if they could get a better deal.. which right now, they can't. That insurance company has to be licensed to sell in GA for you to buy it.


Better deal, volume discounts.. It's not like Company A has to know or ever interact with Company B, they just share an insurance carrier.. the employees likely would never even know.


Why not? Are you self-employed?

Thanks for clearing that up!

I am self employed and my company has no employees (We have contractors). The state of Ga doesnt allow "Group of one" insurance. So I have to buy individual insurance.

I dont know if my company could band together with other companies. Though I draw a "salary" for tax purposes, I'm not really an employee (I dont think). I am an owner.

Have you ever checked into the NASE (National Association for the Self-Employed)? They basically do the same thing, they pool self-employed people and use that buying power to buy insurance nationally. I've known several folks who have done it, some loved it and some didn't.. so I'm not officially endorsing it, just letting you know it's an option that's out there if you haven't already checked into it.

I have never actually heard of that, so I will look into it. I'm getting kicked off my ins at the end of the year, so this could be convienent.

Thanks for your help!

NASE used to be a great program. I was licensed and sold thier health insurance in Ohio for several years on the side. You really should check into it EVE. It was designed for folks just like you.

National
Association for the
Self
Employed

http://www.nase.org/

Thank you!

My pleasure

Trump to halt subsidies to health insurers

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump...3--finance.html

Man conservatives really hate Americans. We’re just peasants.

Asinine move Donald.

Too bad you don't have any representation in Washington these days as the Democrats won't work or deal.

Too bad the Republican Establishment won't work or deal.

Too bad the President has got to fix this mess himself.

He tweeted today the Democrats better come see him and get back to work for the American People or he will fix this alone, as best as he can. He as always is ready to negotiate.

Yeah that's right. The republican's aren't working so he needs the dem's to do that work now. LOL The children you voted for crack me up.

Not children, leadership.

President Trump just held an impromptu Press Conference on the lawn and the first question asked was about his dropping of the CSR's yesterday with his executive order. The CSR's are payments made by the government to the Insurance companies.

He said he is not here to help the insurance companies to make more money like they have done under ObamaCare, and if you look at the list of people who the insurance industry gives donations to, it isn't me! Just look at their stock prices over the last 6 years and you will see they have gotten rich enough!

He said time is running out and Americans deserve good healthcare. He said the Democrat leaders should come to him, as a matter of fact, I am willing to go to them if they want, to negotiate healthcare for the American people.

The reporter asked, But what if the Democrats want to save ObamaCare? To which he replied they have already lost a big chunk of that as millions of people are going to sign up for the new plans offered from what I signed yesterday.

It is time to get the American good healthcare!

He once had a good idea for a healthcare system.

From your article...


"As far as single payer, it works in Canada," Trump replied. "It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about here." Trump didn't explain what might have changed in the last 15 years that would prevent the United States from adopting Canadian-style health care.

-Sounds to me like he is against it.

Trump should propose single payer system, then watch the liberals all vote against it just because it came from Trump.

Trump would attempt to put Putin in the middle somehow...