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I believe that 90% of what they write is liberally slanted. You do realize you can present facts and sources in an article and still have a political slant to it right? Because that is what they do, that is what they have done and it has gotten consistently worse over the decades that I have been paying attention. So much so that they barely even make much of an attempt to hide it any more.


Yes I understand that. And I think it is just as wrong for the Tuscaloosa News to endorse a candidate as it is for the NY Times. Size and scale do not matter.

As for Fox News.. I gave up watching or listening to Fox News over a decade ago...

I think we fundamentally agree. I believe that what are called news agencies have helped to build the divide our nation. I believe both sides are very slanted and deliver a slant to the news they report to cater to their viewers or readers.

I do however find it very troubling when the president picks a side to attack.

Just my take here, but Trumps "desire" (is that the right word?) to in essence shut down nbc is just dumb.

For all media, it would be great if they could just report the facts without a political slant. It doesn't happen, of course. And it's obvious most of the mainstream are in attack mode.

Regardless, revoking a license is a dumb idea and would set a terrible precedent. At some point in the future, a democrat president could then decide to shut down FOX, or Rush, or any media that disagreed with him/her.

Dumb of the President to even suggest this. (and he doesn't have the power to do it, does he?)

Let whatever media it is lie and be biased. The truth will come out at some point. (usually)

I disagree, its there job to list and inform what policy was produced, and then the PEOPLE make their own opinions on said policy based on the information, not opinions.

I love how people think the media industry should be ran different than any other industry!

As long as you hold the entire media to that same standard.

But Trump targeted the left and said nothing about the right. They both do the same thing.

Perhaps a simple name change will fix the problem then...

NBC Nightly Fiction has a nice ring to it.

I have said before earlier in the post that both sides do are biased/lean a certain way, but its fairly obvious that the vast majority of the media leans left.

And I can say, I have seen shows on fox that go after trump constantly (shepard does daily, I have seen tucker Carlson disagree with trump, Brit Hume, etc.)

Just because the vast majority of the media dislikes the guy you likes, doesn't mean we don't have a problem.

Conservatives loved to deregulate every industry except that one.

Shouldn't be a right or left issue, hate trump all you want, disagree with his policies, spit in his face for all I care, but hes right when it comes to the media.

Yep. They want to kill you with coal, but God forbid a media company tells a lie!

You don't think fake media reports and lies cause deaths?

General Kelly just walked into the daily Presser and was answering questions.

One of the things he hit on when asked if he was frustrated is every day he comes into his office, picks up the Newspaper and turns on the TV News to find the craziest stories on himself being told.

He said I am not resigning, I am not getting fired, and the only thing that frustrates me is the reporting of you guys.

He has seen where the Media have unnamed sources for these outlandish stories and suggests they find some new sources.
"If you are talking to some lowly employee in an office somewhere, you are not getting correct information, try for some new ones."

He also said they have creative ways of taking his picture and writing a story around it. Recently at the UN I was deep in thought about some serious issues and the next day I see my picture, head in hand, with the caption, "What General Kelly thinks of President Trumps speech."

This is the kind of thing he and the President find frustrating.

Trump shoots himself in the foot almost every time he opens his mouth. That isn't the medias fault.

No he isn’t.

But the media has not ever worked that way.. ever. If it worked as you suggest, the "newspaper" would be a compilation of tables full of statistics, bills in their original form, police blotters, and box scores. There would be no articles or editorializing at all.

And as a result, nobody would buy it.

Funny how he media is covering these brave soldiers who died in Niger, yet trump hasnt said one word.

But disrespect of the military is y’all narrative. Smh.

Not necessarily.
They would return to the day where they understood the difference between News and Opinion and report it as such, separately.

We can always bring back the fairness doctrine to broadcasting, cable included.

That would be painful in the short term, but may change things.

I would also legislate the gap that was created with the Citizens United decision.

Sweet Dreams.

I don't know if NBC itself would have a broadcast license. I would think that this would be held by the local stations that do the actual broadcasting.

No not really.

You lay out the policy, say this is what democrats think it will do and this is what republicans say. I am not opposed to the journalist stating what the sides believe it will do, but they do not do that. they only give one side. Read anything Chilliza (sp) writes, its absurd.

EXACTLY! I have no problem with a program that is left leaning, as long as they state that. Maddow/Holt etc parlay their shows are journalism, when it is strictly commentators and pundits.

the same on the right with Hannity. Hes not a journalist, hes a commentator. The only person I know of that would say he was not a journalist was Bill Oreilly. Tucker does as well now, he states he is a commentator.

Part of it still comes back to the American people and what they are willing to listen to, accept, and believe.

For years Jon Stewart would rant, the right would get up in arms about it.. and the left would defend it with, "He's not a journalist, he's a comedian.. a commentator." So what he says doesn't count. Yet at the same time, polls indicated that among the younger demographic, he was repeatedly listed as "the most trusted person in political commentary" or something like that... So you can call yourself whatever you want, it still comes down to who the people are going to listen to and trust..

It really doesn't matter anyway as half of America gets its News from Late Night Comedy Shows.

The right needs a good political satirist; I’ll watch good satire regardless of the content.

The problem is that conservatives take themselves too seriously and are incapable of laughing at themselves.

Our satirist will roast liberals and we don’t care cause it’s all good. Conservatives will start the “if you don’t like it here you can leave” nonsense that will ruin the mood.

Dennis Miller is king at satire. The PROBLEM is, and you seen it with guys like Weinstein, is Hollywood is a liberal boys club, and they wont allow a right wing person like that.

Not really. You guys just aren’t funny.

Conservatives don't get humor and that's why only the moderates on here get likes on their joke posts.

Well, there's Dennis Miller....

oh yeah- still waiting.

Rocket man, Switch, and CommunistDawg walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says, "Get the **** out of here.*

Guys like Weinstein? Movie producers? or just neoliberals in Hollywood? Or do you mean sexual predators? In that case, you gotta ask what the hell was Fox News doing sleeping on this guy? We know what they were thinking. "How do we sleep with the women?"

Also, let's not pretend that Dennis Miller is some no name. The dude killed it on SNL. I think he's top 4 Weekend Update hosts of all time. That's a very long list, with a lot of stars, mind you. He also hosted a late night show that was decently popular. Of course, it was cancelled because Jay Leno's agent/Producer, who strong armed everyone, would ban celebs from Leno's show if they appeared on another talk show. You can't get interesting guests (to make fun of), then your show will suck.

Finally, does Dennis Miller event want to do something like that? Dude doesn't even run a podcast. Doubt he'd want a full time show.

CommunistDawg then says, "I've never heard of **** out of here, is it an IPA or a sour?"

Political satire just really isn't a conservative/right-wing thing. The thing is that those on the right are on the right side of reality, so any uncensored platform or lightly-censored platform quickly becomes dominated by conservative types.

Since those platforms are hard to come by, they need something that's fast and hard hitting. Enter memes.

Not bad.

Proof as to my comment that conservatives aren’t funny. Better get Eve to crack jokes cause she’s the only conservative good at it.

Not really. He's just not funny.
It's why his crowning achievement was reading scripted lines on SNL. Lines that he didn't write.

If he was any good at what he does, no 'boy's club' would be able to keep him down. Instead, he's a member of the "whatever happened to" club, and for good reason.

Dude's as funny as a funeral.

Exactly. Haus is right. You cannot make a satire when you are the oppressing class. Redeye got cancelled earlier this year and was already showing at 3 AM for years before that. Conservatives just can't make fun of liberals without sounding out of touch with reality. "Ha! These stupid liberals want women to receive fair pay! Maybe after they make me a sandwich. HAHAHAHA!" That's why you'll only see conservative satire be successful when talking about government spending/waste. If they're funny beyond that, it's gotta be the most simple material of a simple liberal argument that can be made fun of. That's why guys like Andy Levy can be funny for a minute a week, but you can't build a TV show around that.

Yeah, the sandwich jokes are just cringeworthy and not my style.

Regarding the $1.00/$0.77 pay gap, the reality is that the large majority of that can be explained right off the bat by career chosen and number of hours worked.

Liberals make no effort to equate those or any other factors. They just see the difference in pay and automatically assume discrimination. At best there is a few percent difference when you equate career choice and hours worked, but even then-- there is not even an attempt to compare performance or any other factor. It is automatically assumed to be sexism. Now it may be, or it may not be... I would just like to see more intellectual honesty from the social justice types. That's unlikely at best.

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