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Hogan reminds me of a Kirk Cousins, Alex Smith type at this point. I'm not saying he is as good as they are right now but he could be with more playing time. If you surround him with good solid players he could end up being our long term QB. He's got decent size, smarts and good enough arm strength. I don't think Cousins or Smiths arm strength is any better than Kevin's. Well, today will be test #1. Let's hope for the best. We are long overdue for a good break!!

After today, Hogan becomes what, our 28th starting quarterback?


It has to end at some point, doesn't it? Why can't it end with Hogan?

If we love a qb we draft them ... that should have been the plan all along ... REGARDLESS OF HOW ANY OF OUR YOUNG QB’S played this year ...

Judging a kid off his rookie year is FOOLS GOLD ... see Jared Goff for one side of the coin and Kap and RG3 for the other side of the coin ... KH is not a rookie but he is a 2nd year guy making his first starts ... either way its going to be too small a sample size ...

i see what you mean, but hypothetically, if hogan gets us 6 wins or so, we might have to use picks to move up to grab a guy.

i agree about it being fools gold, but shouldn't we consider just going with hogan and kizer into 2018 and use that draft to get offensive weapons?

I’m sure ...

Kizer is not even close to a sure thing ... lord only knows if he will ever develop and if he does how long its going to take ... and no, i am far from writing him off ...

If u love one ... GET UM ...

Math is simple here ... i’d Rather end up with two stud QB then none ... and since we don’t know how the kids are going to turn out even at the end of the season ...

Its going to be another interesting off season ...

Good point about the 5 or 6 wins and the draft spots ... i didn’t think of that ...

That would make it tougher ... but man .. franchise QB’s are so hard to get ... man ... that makes it a much better question ..

I guess i’d Have to wait and see on that hypothetical ...

To think that he's already altered his throwing motion within a year of training. I think Kevin Hogan is one of those hungry types of dudes. I think he's going to be willing to work very hard over his career. He's already shown that he is working hard. I'd love to have him on the team for how ever long we can keep him. Even if he isn't successful this year. I think he's much more useful to have in the locker room than Kessler.

Nvm

1st pick QB

If Darnold is there, I am running to turn in the card.

Lamar Jackson

Well, thus far, with 44 seconds left in the 1st half, Hogan is not one ounce better than Kizer.

At 11 seconds left, Hogan is picked off again. And we're losing 24 to 3.

Mercy, the end of the 1st half.

The answer is to just draft a QB with every single one of our picks.

RGIII 2

You don’t know that. Besides people tried to say the same about Watson.

I was on the Watson train. Now I’m on the Lamar Jackson train.

And people thought Hogan was better than Kiser??????????

I need another drink

I say draft some females..at least I'll have something to watch.

We need to draft 2 QB's.

Where is Cody kessler?

So is the Hogan experiment over?

I wish I still drank.

I feel bad for all of us fans, this is a freakin' trainwreck.

I feel bad for Hogan too, what a horrible game he had in his moment to shine.

No Kelly Holcomb effect this time 'round.

They just said on TV, "Hogan is no hero." Got that right.

Sometimes a light at the end of the tunnel can be an oncoming train. Case in point.

hue will say he played lights out lol

I feel bad for Kevin Hogan. He's young and inexperienced. He's not a veteran who can step in and step up on a mid-season road game and make magic happen in his first NFL start.

I desperately want to continue liking Hue Jackson, but this was a terrible decision that shouldn't have happened. He got desperate and assumed the grass would be greener.

Hopefully we can get back to Deshone Kizer's development.

Yes

Both guys are merely projects.
Neither has had the necessary time and who is ahead of who is anyones guess. It's hard to really care.

All the things that earned Hogan the start today, particularly his ability to quickly read the defense and get the ball out quickly, were not there.

That's a bit hard to explain unless the moment was just too big for him. He held the ball too long consistently all day.

He quickly read the defense and threw the ball 10 yards above the wr's head.

No...that is unless Hue caves.

I would probably let Hogan play at least one more game, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hue lets him start until the bye week, then puts Kizer back in afterwards.

No matter who the starter is it certainly looking like just a different version of the same crap anyhow, so.... you know. No matter who it's been so far it's tough to stomach.

Hogan really disappointed today.

Tough being a Browns fan.

It sure is. And the sad thing is, our games are at 1 OClock and I am so depressed that I have no interest in watching football for the rest of the week.


No more football for me today folks. Cause i'm just reminded how bad we are

LOL...that didn't go well.

Hogan failed cause being named the starter during the week gives a team time to look at film and prepare to defend him
Coming off the bench cold defense has no time to prepare

There's not enough tape on Hogan for this to be true. The moment was simply too big for him especially after some adversity.

I leave him as starter until bye week. Or is it Kessler time? Or do we go Fish? Kizer is no closer to being viable. This is Hogan's shakedown cruise; Jamar Taylor is still bad, no pressure off the line on their receivers. Peppers has been late to the ball endlessly. Change some of this crap.

Williams needs some change; Hue needs an OC; just painful to watch. How can you not want to stop some of what is killing you game after game?

MKC could stop throwing mud at our team. Her "journalism" is really bad for us. She would be a troll online in some folks' opinions.

I cannot express how much I am looking forward to next week's outing.

Qb talk is over.

It should ne Kizer teh starter until the end of the season, then it should be reacessed

Hogan did play pretty bad this game. His accuracy went out the window for some reason. I'd still give him at least one more game before reverting back to Kizer though. I want to see if Hogan gets past those first game jitters or not.

Either way if we are drafting in the top 5 then we better do whatever it takes to draft the best QB. Then sign, trade, or draft for a true #1 WR. Our offense seriously needs some weapons for whoever is going to be our QB.

Well, I thought Hogan could come in and operate the offense. He started so good. Then he became Kizer when throwing. Saw the person he needed to throw to at least, but you need zero gravity to jump up and catch those balls. Easy INTs I saw before I turned the game, probably threw more by the end.

I mean, what are we going to do? Hogan is good for about five minutes of play lol. I mean, maybe we need to play all three QBs in one game, hahahahahaa.

I don't even know anymore, and not sure I care to know this season.