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I think it's pretty pointless to trot Hogan back out there. I know Kizer has been awful, but we gotta see if he can get any better. If not, who cares? 0-16 is a REAL possibility. Maybe even more so than last year at this point.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Week 6 and I’m no longer angry at losses.
I just...exist.
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I regret not betting more on Houston.
I won't make the same mistake next week!
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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One more post game thought:
I like my preseason "bold" prediction that Hue resigns more and more with each passing week.
Especially if it doesn't look like Sashi and Co. will be let go.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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One more post game thought:
I like my preseason "bold" prediction that Hue resigns more and more with each passing week.
Especially if it doesn't look like Sashi and Co. will be let go. Ahem...
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I guess Detroit and New Orleans forgot how to Play defense
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Thank God I got to spend the majority of the day at church and not watching this mess.
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I think it's pretty pointless to trot Hogan back out there. Nope. Give him at least one home game...
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Maybe we can trade our second round pick to Denver for Osweiler.
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You made Kevin Zeitler the highest paid interior offensive lineman in NFL history.
You are stopping the run, consistently
You have all of your running backs healthy.
You are putting all of your eggs in the basket of rookie quarterbacks, and a hodge podge of receivers, every single week.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I don't even know what to think or who to blame.
I just know it's BS that I continue to watch this product. I'm going to Cleveland in a couple weeks to watch us play the Jags, and I'm not excited about the game at all. Not a bit..... Hopefully it'll be a fun tailgate.
Sadly, I turned this one off at halftime. And I shell out the money every year for Sunday Ticket.
Not sure what we can do. I know firing Hue right now doesn't make sense. What legitimate coach would want to come here to work for an owner that fires his coaches in October? We don't have an assistant in the wings to take Hue's place that can audition for the job anyway.
Then we have this huge stockpile of draft picks, do we really want to change regimes? Because I don't like changing course right before a big draft, as I feel like we don't get the quality time put into making sure we get the most out of our assets (our scouting is behind the ball).
So yeah. I'm at a loss. What we're seeing on the field is unacceptable. Just straight awful. Second year of it too. But I don't know what the answer is. I'd like to have Hue hire an OC, but as the Head Coach, he's got the right to structure his coaching staff however he wants. Just as Mike Pettine had the right to drive this ship right onto the rocks by sticking with that garbage D-Coordinator we had.
Guess it's best to wait till the end of the season, evaluate things then, weigh the pros and cons of keeping this crew entact with an upcoming draft of two 1st round picks and three 2nd round picks........ (And probably no decent QB prospects)
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I use to take solace in the fact that we would be losing games to get a high draft pick and take a franchise QB. I did want Garrett at pick 1 this year and I think the Browns made the right pick. However at this point it's pretty clear the front office doesn't have the balls to spend a high pick on a QB after passing on franchise guys like Wentz and Watson in consecutive years.
I'll always be a Browns fan and I'll keep watching, but I'm pretty much mailing it on them ever turning things around at this point. At least as long as Haslem owns the team.
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I'm watching the afternoon game so I can see what this mythical game of football is all about. Is it in the browns play book to throw an INT in the redzone?
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I am wondering how Darold played.
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My initial thought is... I don't trust them with the picks. I'd love to have more information about the QB draft process. Who was for who and why decisions were made that we ended with this mess.
I have a feeling we'd be angry. (Angrier)
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My initial thought is... I don't trust them with the picks. I'd love to have more information about the QB draft process. Who was for who and why decisions were made that we ended with this mess.
I have a feeling we'd be angry. (Angrier) Yeah, I'd like to think that somehow these guys will get it together. The FO and the Coaching Staff. That whole, if we just stick to the plan, things will turn around. But this is real hard to take. Really hard. Like I said, I'm not even angry. More-so I'm depressed. Like, maybe I need a new hobby because the Browns are ruining my love of football
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We stink. I took my mom to church, and then shopping, and then to lunch. I took my tablet so I could watch the game at the restaurant. I wound up turning it off. Why ruin lunch and waste data? 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Myles Garrett is really good.
I am resigned to the fact that Hue is probably gone after this year.
This sucks.
you had a good run Hank.
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Clueless. Outlaw DePodesta and his judgment. Horrible. Did you see anything fixed, anything better? I did not.
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I thing the FO and Hue have some more games to show some improvement.
Now that reality sunk in and we know we are again the worst team in the NFL.
Just try to build something positive.
Stop with the dumb decisions, like switching QB and playing Peppers.
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I don't care if we have all the top 20 nest year , we will find a way to draft non impact players
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I don't care if we have all the top 20 nest year , we will find a way to draft non impact players And there...in a nutshell...is the problem. Fix it Jimmy. Now.
After 55 years, I'm walking away from this dumpster fire. Good luck to everyone who continues to hang on. You'll need it.
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Why does Hue insist on every pass play going 20 yards or more? Hogan's strength is a short, controlled offense with quick accurate passes.
I'm not excusing Hogan's game today, I just don't understand the play calling. All the exotic shifts, all the motion plays, etc. have only led to failure. Just get a solid, basic offense and execute it.
Have we thrown a slant this year?
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Have we thrown a slant this year? Less than we utilize our TE's...
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Myles Garrett is really good.
I am resigned to the fact that Hue is probably gone after this year.
This sucks. Serious! You think Hue stays for the entire year.
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Have we thrown a slant this year? Less than we utilize our TE's... Or any type of crossing route.
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This team was so over rated in the off season. People predciting 6 7 8 wins
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My thoughts...the coaching staff stinks. I don't care for Hue's playcalling. At all. Williams is overrated.
Granted we have a young roster, but that's the fault of the FO. And they suck too.
If I was in charge I'm not staying with consistency for the sake of consistency when we are consistently out coached and out played week in and week out. I'd kick the can on Podesta and Brown and bring in a football guy and let him make the call on the coaching staff.
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Yawn. Another week, another ass paddling. Very predictable.
16 consecutive road losses
McCourty gives great effort.
Myles Garrett is player.
Zane Gonzalez made a FG.
Enough of the Hogan nonsense.
Hue is going to have bounce back Kizer. Musical QBs. Something he proclaimed last year he would not do. And for the second straight year it's going to be musical QBs.
I'd like Haslam to give the FO and coaching staff another full year together (does it really even matter anymore), but I get a strong feeling that Jimmy's out purchasing the dynamite.
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Week 6 and I’m no longer angry at losses.
I just...exist. Agreed. I used to get so upset at losses. My afternoons would be ruined as I was constantly thinking about it as were my nights. These days...not so much. I seem to accept it and move on. That to me isn't a good sign for Haslam's fan base. What I do find difficult is the amount of energy invested and spent in the off season from pretty much early January onwards and then once the regular season begins we are straight back to square one, or worse. Not sure where I stand anymore when it comes to the coaches and the FO. My gut feeling is the FO needs shaking up. I no longer trust Sashi and DePodesta. Of the three I like Berry the most. I am also not sure about the evaluation teams as we seem to consistently miss out on talent.
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Another reason to make me feel like a fool for being a season ticket holder.
Just kick me in the Cod.
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The only thoughts I have:
I knew we'd get a beaten
I knew I would probably not care anymore about this organization for the season
Done watching the games. Done making sure I'm home and able to see kickoff on Sundays. Done with this dark season. Done with this crap display of football. Done with this staff.
Next season yet guys?
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is there a chance we could do a mid season trade for Jimmy G now?
The Pats need defensive help big time. Could we entice them with Kirksey? Ogbah? Shelton? Plus draft picks?
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Team will be sold soon.Has to be losing some coin on an empty stadium.
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Trade the Pats our first 2 picks next year for Josh McDaniel and Jimmy G.....
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Trade the Pats our whole team and organization for JG
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