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I wonder if the two taken right after Quinn are waiting to see what kind of $$$ he gets before they sign on the dotted line?
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According to the reports I linked below, Bowe 'may be' waiting on Quinn (per Profootballtalk.com, so take that for what it's worth (probably not much )). Beason's holdout seems to be more about the money.
Dwayne Bowe-WR- Chiefs Jul. 30 - 8:27 pm et The Chiefs haven't spoken with the representatives for first-round pick Dwayne Bowe in "the past couple of days," according to Profootballtalk.com.
Bowe, the No. 23 pick overall, may be waiting for the Browns to sign Brady Quinn (No. 22). That's likely not good news for a deal getting done soon. Source: Profootballtalk.com http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
Panthers | Beason could hold out for a while Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:10:03 -0700
The Associated Press reports a second-year option bonus is the reason the Carolina Panthers have not signed their first-round draft choice, LB Jon Beason. Beason's agent, Michael Huyghue, said the team has offered a bonus in the third year, but the money would not be guaranteed if Beason does not meet some performance incentives. Huyghue said the team has most of the power and Beason may have to accept the current offer or sit out the season if he does not change his demands. (from http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0 )
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# Team Player Contract Length Amount Guarantee 1 Oakland: Russell, JaMarcus QB 2 Detroit: Johnson, Calvin WR 3 Cleveland: Thomas, Joe OT 6yrs (voidable after 5 years) $42.5M. $22/23M. 4 Tampa Bay: Adams, Gaines DE 6 years $46M. $18.56M. 5 Arizona: Brown, Levi OT 6 Washington: Landry, LaRon FS 7 Minnesota: Peterson, Adrian RB Peterson signed a five-year, $40.5 million deal with $17 million in guaranteed money 8 Atlanta (from Houston): Anderson, Jamaal DE 5 years $31M. $15.361M. 9 Miami: Ginn Jr., Ted WR, 5yrs, $$$ to be determined. 10 Houston (from Atlanta): Okoye, Amobi DT.6yrs (voidable after 5) $12.785 Mil in guarantees, $17.6Mil in max value. 11 San Francisco: Willis, Patrick ILB 12 Buffalo: Lynch, Marshawn RB 5 years $18.935M. $10.285M. 13 St. Louis: Carriker, Adam DE. 5yrs, $9.4mil in guarantees, $14.5mil 14 N.Y. Jets (from Carolina): Revis, Darrelle CB 15 Pittsburgh: Timmons, Lawrence OLB 5 years $15M. $8.053M. 16 Green Bay: Harrell, Justin DT, 5yrs, $14.5 million and $15 million with all incentives included $8 million in guaranteed 17 Denver (from Jacksonville): Moss, Jarvis DE Signed, no terms as of yet. 18 Cincinnati: Hall, Leon CB five-year deal, that guarantees him $8.2 million and could be worth $13.6 million overall 19 Tennessee: Griffin, Michael FS Terms of the deal were not disclosed 20 N.Y. Giants: Ross, Aaron CB 5 years $13.5M. $8M. 21 Jacksonville (from Denver): Nelson, Reggie FS 5yrs, $13.1mil , $7.1M guaranteed. 22 Cleveland (from Dallas): Quinn, Brady QB 23 Kansas City: Bowe, Dwayne WR 24 New England (from Seattle): Meriweather, Brandon FS, 5yrs, $8.75 million with $6 million in bonuses and guarantees 25 Carolina (from N.Y. Jets): Beason, Jon OLB 26 Dallas (from Philadelphia): Spencer, Anthony DE 5 years $9M. $6M. 27 New Orleans: Meachem, Robert WR 5 years $11.3M. $5.71M. 28 San Francisco (from New England): Staley, Joe OT 5 years $8M. $5.6M 29 Baltimore: Grubbs, Ben G 5 years $11M. $5.22M 30 San Diego: Davis, Craig WR 5 years $7.83M. $5.5M. 31 Chicago: Olsen, Greg TE 5 years $7.769M. $4.9M. 32 Indianapolis: Gonzalez, Anthony WR 5 years $7.5M. $5.4M. http://www.denverbroncos.com/index.phphttp://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
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how about we start doing it backwords... who is left in bold lol
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http://www.gbnreport.com/signingstatus.html has a very well arranged graph of all the signings with money and guaranteed money. ~Lyuokdea
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woah that is nice... thanks!
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21 Reggie Nelson Jacksonville 5 $13.10 $7.10
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22 Brady Quinn Cleveland 5 $13.05 $7.05 and then load it with incentives.
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#Team Player Contract Length Amount Guarantee 1 Oakland: Russell, JaMarcus QB 2 Detroit: Johnson, Calvin WR 3 Cleveland: Thomas, Joe OT 6yrs (voidable after 5 years) $42.5M. $22/23M. 4 Tampa Bay: Adams, Gaines DE 6 years $46M. $18.56M. 5 Arizona: Brown, Levi OT - 6yrs, maximum value of $63 million 6 Washington: Landry, LaRon FS 7 Minnesota: Peterson, Adrian RB Peterson signed a five-year, $40.5 million deal with $17 million in guaranteed money 8 Atlanta (from Houston): Anderson, Jamaal DE 5 years $31M. $15.361M. 9 Miami: Ginn Jr., Ted WR, 5yrs, $$$ to be determined. 10 Houston (from Atlanta): Okoye, Amobi DT.6yrs (voidable after 5) $12.785 Mil in guarantees, $17.6Mil in max value. 11 San Francisco: Willis, Patrick ILB 12 Buffalo: Lynch, Marshawn RB 5 years $18.935M. $10.285M. 13 St. Louis: Carriker, Adam DE. 5yrs, $9.4mil in guarantees, $14.5mil 14 N.Y. Jets (from Carolina): Revis, Darrelle CB 15 Pittsburgh: Timmons, Lawrence OLB 5 years $15M. $8.053M. 16 Green Bay: Harrell, Justin DT, 5yrs, $14.5 million and $15 million with all incentives included $8 million in guaranteed 17 Denver (from Jacksonville): Moss, Jarvis DE Signed, no terms as of yet. 18 Cincinnati: Hall, Leon CB five-year deal, that guarantees him $8.2 million and could be worth $13.6 million overall 19 Tennessee: Griffin, Michael FS Terms of the deal were not disclosed 20 N.Y. Giants: Ross, Aaron CB 5 years $13.5M. $8M. 21 Jacksonville (from Denver): Nelson, Reggie FS 5yrs, $13.1mil , $7.1M guaranteed. 22 Cleveland (from Dallas): Quinn, Brady QB 23 Kansas City: Bowe, Dwayne WR 24 New England (from Seattle): Meriweather, Brandon FS, 5yrs, $8.75 million with $6 million in bonuses and guarantees 25 Carolina (from N.Y. Jets): Beason, Jon OLB 26 Dallas (from Philadelphia): Spencer, Anthony DE 5 years $9M. $6M. 27 New Orleans: Meachem, Robert WR 5 years $11.3M. $5.71M. 28 San Francisco (from New England): Staley, Joe OT 5 years $8M. $5.6M 29 Baltimore: Grubbs, Ben G 5 years $11M. $5.22M 30 San Diego: Davis, Craig WR 5 years $7.83M. $5.5M. 31 Chicago: Olsen, Greg TE 5 years $7.769M. $4.9M. 32 Indianapolis: Gonzalez, Anthony WR 5 years $7.5M. $5.4M. Cardinals | L. Jones agrees to six-year contract Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:26:17 -0700 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Arizona Cardinals have signed first-round draft pick OT Levi Brown to a six-year contract worth a maximum value of $63 million. It is believed to be the most lucrative contract in NFL history for an offensive lineman, but he is unlikely to max out the deal by reaching all incentives. http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl This leaves 6 unsigned draftees:
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here is a link: Landry signs not sure of his exact salary though ....
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Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Arizona Cardinals have signed first-round draft pick OT Levi Brown to a six-year contract worth a maximum value of $63 million. It is believed to be the most lucrative contract in NFL history for an offensive lineman, but he is unlikely to max out the deal by reaching all incentives.
Sounds like the Cards believe in the Ammo way of giving contracts.
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That's unreal.... I wonder what he has to do to max it out... wow - 20+ million more than JT got.
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That's unreal.... I wonder what he has to do to max it out... wow - 20+ million more than JT got.
But his last year isn't voidable...How in the world is this team not going to be in cap hell. I mean Fitz got a crazy amount of money, Leinart got top 10 money even though he was drafted 11th, and now this...
It sure looks like Boldin will be a free agent or they will have league minimum defensive players at this rate....
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I can't see him making nearly that much money. The incentives are probably so high he doesn't stand a chance. It sounds like a lot but when it comes down to it he won't make more than Thomas. Unless of course they have completely lost their minds from the desert heat.
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Thanks. I crossed up Revis and Landry, 
This leaves 6 unsigned draftees:
#1 Jamarcus Russell, QB, Oak #2 Calvin Johnson, WR, Det #14 Darell Revis, CB, NYJets #22 Brady Quinn, QB, Clevaland #23 Dwayne Bowe, WR, KC #25 Jon Beason, OLB, Car
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Cardinals agree to six-year, $62M deal with No. 5 pick Brown By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: August 2, 2007, 10:54 PM ET Comment Email Print The Arizona Cardinals on Thursday night reached agreement with first-round draft pick Levi Brown, the offensive tackle from Penn State, on a six-year contract, ESPN.com has confirmed.
The contract, negotiated by agent Joel Segal, has a maximum value of $62 million. That is believed to be the most lucrative contract in NFL history for an offensive lineman, although Brown is unlikely to max out the deal by reaching all the incentives.
Unsigned First-Round Picks Now that all NFL training camps are open for business, coaches will tell you these absent rookies are falling behind in their programs by the minute.
The Six Holdouts No. Team Player 1. Raiders JaMarcus Russell, QB 2. Lions Calvin Johnson, WR 14. Jets Darrelle Revis, CB 22. Browns Brady Quinn, QB 23. Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR 25. Panthers Jon Beason, LB
"Levi is looking forward to joining the Cardinals coaches and players at practice tomorrow," Segal said. "The Cardinals stepped up and made this deal happen."
Brown, 23, was the fifth player chosen overall and the second offensive tackle. The accord leaves six first-round choices unsigned. That group includes the top two picks, quarterback JaMarcus Russell of Oakland and Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson.
Segal said his client was en route to Phoenix on Thursday night from his home in Virginia. Brown was scheduled to take a physical Friday before signing his contract and then join the Cardinals at training camp on the Northern Arizona University campus.
"We were a bit frustrated by the amount of time it took and didn't think it had to take this long," Arizona general manager Rod Graves said. "...The proposal that we agreed upon today was not far from where we've been the last week or so."
A four-year starter for the Nittany Lions, with 44 of his 45 starts at left tackle, Brown is expected to challenge veteran Oliver Ross for the starting job at right tackle. That is a key position in the Arizona offense, since quarterback Matt Leinart is left-handed, and the right tackle is responsible for primary pass protection duties.
Brown spent much of the spring working on the right side and, according to the Cardinals' coaches, seemed to make a good transition. Having missed the first five days of camp, he will have to catch up quickly under the tutelage of line coach Russ Grimm to still have a chance to start on opening day.
Although he arrived at Penn State as a defensive tackle, Brown was moved to the offensive side early in his first camp. He is blessed with a big upper frame and his size (6-feet-5 ½, 323 pounds) allowed him to engulf opponents at the college level. Brown has long arms and big hands and, while his 40-time (5.40) is not impressive, he moves his feet very well in pass protection situations.
He will have to work on not setting up so high, and losing leverage, when pass blocking.
In his final two years, according to Penn State coaches, 60 percent of the team's rushing yards came in part as a result of his blocks.
Brown was the second offensive lineman chosen in the draft. Cleveland selected tackle Joe Thomas as the third pick overall. Thomas has signed a five-year deal reportedly worth $42.5 million, with $22-23 million guaranteed.
Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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I believe only about 18 mil is guaranteed. The 62 mil doesn't mean anything.
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im glad this dude isnt Quinns agent.. darn... 62 seems like a lot to me.. even if he gets it or not...
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If Boldin become a free agent.. we gotta get this guy.. he is an EXCELLENT WR... and when i say excellent.. i mean excellent!!! wishful thinking though i guess..
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yeah the only thing I care About is how much we guarantee.... we can write everyone with 100 mill contracts with 1 mil guarantee and I'd be happy lol
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and yeah that is waayyy too much money
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Lions Sign First-Round Draft Pick WR Calvin Johnson August 3, 2007 Allen Park, Mich. - The Detroit Lions announced today that they have signed first-round draft choice WR Calvin Johnson to a six-year deal. Additional terms of Johnson's contract were not disclosed. http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=458576
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And then there were 5:
This leaves 5 unsigned draftees:
#1 Jamarcus Russell, QB, Oak #14 Darell Revis, CB, NYJets #22 Brady Quinn, QB, Clevaland #23 Dwayne Bowe, WR, KC #25 Jon Beason, OLB, Car http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DET/10279736
it includes $27.2 million in guaranteed money. It can max out at $64 million with incentives. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=95053
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The Cards will regret they spent that much for a RT..lol..
Well Leinart's a lefty. So are you saying they'll regret spending that much for a LT (in Arizona's case) or do you recognize that Levi Brown is going to be a starting blindside tackle in the NFL.
Either way, seems like a lot for a guy that was overvalued when he was picked anyway........ The NFL has gotta step in and stop the giant cap increases and these NFL rookies from getting these rediculous contracts before they've proven a thing. I don't want to let the NFLPA ruin pro-football by making the cap so high that only large market teams can reach it, nor do I want them to ruin it by continually letting rookies get rediculous contracts.
Levi Brown holds out, yet he's one of those guys who needs to be in camp the most. From what I know, he's physically gifted but has shown less than what he's capable of on the field. Bet they wish they could have gotten our guy.........
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I Can See Jamarcus Getting 30+ Mill In Gaurenteed Money..
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Well Leinart's a lefty. So are you saying they'll regret spending that much for a LT (in Arizona's case) or do you recognize that Levi Brown is going to be a starting blindside tackle in the NFL. Do U recognize what I'm saying? Really I could care less what side he's on..he never was a dominate force at PSU...slap him at RT ..it doesn't matter he doesn't have the skills to be a premier OT...he lacks the footwork and laterial moveemnt to be that good.
He might be average in run blocking but he doesn't excel at pass protection.. Doesn't matter if the QB is left/right handed, U want the OT for either type to be solid and a good pass blocker.
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Haha, I recognize it. And if you read the lower parts of my post, I agree with ya. Levi Brown is an average OT whom has potential but hasn't shown it. He had no business being picked where he was, nor does he have any business demanding a contract like he did. Guess there just weren't that many 6-5 320 pounds out there whom could move like he did, cause they surely didn't draft him based on what he showed at PSU
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Adding to Always's post . . . http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2959620Rookie Johnson signs with Detroit after week-long holdout Associated Press Updated: August 3, 2007, 9:16 AM ET ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Rookie wide receiver Calvin Johnson signed a six-year deal with the Detroit Lions on Friday, ending the No. 2 overall pick's eight-day holdout. Terms of the deal are not yet known. Johnson's signing allowed him to get into camp for workouts, where he was out catching passes Friday morning. Fellow wideout Roy Williams said a day earlier that "the rookie needs to get in here." Johnson was regarded by some as the best player in the draft after catching 78 passes for 1,202 yards and 15 touchdowns during his All-America junior season at Georgia Tech. He won the Biletnikoff Award, given to the nation's top college receiver. The Lions, 3-13 last season, in April made Johnson the fourth receiver taken with their first pick in the past five drafts. "He's going to be a big part of getting us to where we want to go," Lions president Matt Millen said after Johnson was drafted. The Lions are 24-72 and have missed the playoffs every season since Millen joined the front office in 2001. The soft-spoken Johnson figures to get ample opportunities in offensive coordinator Mike Martz's pass-happy scheme. Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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See what can happen if these guys sign early.
On the surface, it looks like Thomas' contract is less than the second best LT in the draft.
I refuse to critisize these guys for holding out...looks like Levi did ok for himself.
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Thats why I made my comment..I know ltheir QB is a lefty but they still should want a OT who is exceptional at what he does to be drafted that high and for that much money.. We'll see..well actually they'll see.. 
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Sure it does. He isn't going to get cut anytime soon.
Thomas will opt out of his contract at the first chance...and remember how much he left on the table.
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Total worth of the contract would include incentives. He might have a good amount in pro-bowl money/other incentives he might never reach.......the total number isn't always the best way to evaluate a contract.
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Lions sign No. 2 pick Johnson to 6-year deal Friday, August 03, 2007 http://www.theredzone.org/pics/receivers_tightends/johnson_calvin.jpg ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) Rookie wide receiver Calvin Johnson signed a six-year deal with the Detroit Lions on Friday, ending the No. 2 overall pick's eight-day holdout. Johnson's signing allowed him to get into camp for workouts, where he was out catching passes Friday morning. Fellow wideout Roy Williams said a day earlier that "the rookie needs to get in here." Johnson was regarded by some as the best player in the draft after catching 78 passes for 1,202 yards and 15 touchdowns during his All-America junior season at Georgia Tech. He won the Biletnikoff Award, given to the nation's top college receiver. The Lions, 3-13 last season, in April made Johnson the fourth receiver taken with their first pick in the past five drafts. "He's going to be a big part of getting us to where we want to go," Lions president Matt Millen said after Johnson was drafted. The Lions are 24-72 and have missed the playoffs every season since Millen joined the front office in 2001. The soft-spoken Johnson figures to get ample opportunities in offensive coordinator Mike Martz's pass-happy scheme. http://www.theredzone.org/absolutenm/templates/template.asp?articleid=15&zoneid=1
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Actually, it's the opposite. The more money a contract is worth, the more likely you'll get cut faster. The more in guarantees, the more likely the guy won't get cut. Thomas has more guaranteed. Thomas has, likely, a better contract. And I'll bet you just about anything, that five years from now, Thomas will have earned more on his contract than Brown.
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I understand that. But all things being equal from one contract to the next(that assumes all contracts have some of that included in the total package)....bigger is better....after the guaranteed portion is considered.
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