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I will admit that at age 62 I can't fight as well as I did when I was 32. Back then you would have been on the floor in 10 seconds, today it would take me a whole minute to drop you like a rock.

That's not true. And yet, it might be.

If 2 or 3 20 year olds break into my house, I'm probably not going to be able to handle them physically.

You too, will get old/older. Heck, even if 1 guy breaks in now, I may very well not be a physical match for him.

That's not a conservative vs. liberal thing either. It's called reality. You will deal with it as you age.

A gun doesn't "power" my confidence. It tilts the playing field in my favor. Now, if the bad guy/s have guns, we're back to square 1.

The only advantage I would have is knowing my house.

But, again, IF bad guys break into my house with guns, and I don't have one, what are my odds?

I don't know how much of that is true but statistics do show that gun and knife violence is on the rise at an alarming rate in England, as is robbery... while the number of police has been reduced.... so clearly they don't have the final answer to fix this either...

While they try to figure it out, the weak live at the will of the strong instead of at the will of the King/Queen.

I’ve made it very clear I support having a gun inside the home. I have no issue with his and actively encourage it.

However, even though it’s still a right, it doesn’t change that I have concerns over those who carry in public.

We have people so paranoid that they refuse to go anywhere outside without being strapped. You can call that titling the playing field in your favor, but the way I see it, it seems more like the gun enables them to go outside. Without the power of a gun, they themselves are powerless.

Sorry but I really don’t feel safe around people like that. There’s nothing I can do about it because it’s there right, but it doesn’t make me feel safe around that one bit.

So you would make it that the strong, young and big would have to change their tactics to overpowering and robbing the old, the frail and the small on the street or at the mall instead of in the house.

Glad I am an American!

Why are you speaking as if criminals don’t already do that?

And read what I said. It’s your right to carry but that doesn’t mean I should feel safe around you.

Oh, I took your previous post as to mean "a gun in the home".

I do believe by reading my post, you'll be able to see that point.


I don't see a problem with a licensed concealed carry person carrying a gun outside his/her home.

While open carry is legal, I'm not necessarily in favor of it. And it's not because I don't feel safe around them.

It's not just knives. Acid is becoming a common weapon as well. 431 acid attacks in 2016 in London alone: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4016850/acid-attacks-uk-london-latest-treatment/

Add to that the terrorist attacks on many European cities that have used bombs, trucks, machetes, and AK-47s (even where they are banned) and you have a very scary situation.

Of course, the situation in many of our inner cities is scary as well. But then again, anybody who has even the slightest social intuition can avoid those pretty well-- east side of Cleveland, South Side Chicago, all of Detroit.. you get the idea. The U.S. homicide rate is actually quite low in the vast majority of counties.

We Americans do not give up our Constitutional Rights because some abuse them. They are ours!

It doesn't matter how you "Feel".

If it were otherwise, Liberals would be forced by law to wear a strip of Duct Tape over their mouths when in public.

This is really a tough issue.

I'm going to ass-sume that "Guns used on people" (from above) means "people shot".

I don't doubt that innocent people are 22 times more likely to be shot than intruders with guns legally owned.

Guns are deceptively deadly and you've got to have the utmost understanding of the proper way to handle them.

Even then, even if you take every precaution with a home gun, there are bizarre circumstances that lead to accidental shootings.

And these unforeseeable freakish circumstances result in accidental shootings more often than an intruder being shot with a home gun.

But were talking tiny, tiny percentages. (if I had a choice between $1 or a 1 in a 50,000 chance of being shot in the face, I'll take the $1)

But that's just me.

My opinion on gun control? (like, who cares?)

Blah blah blah.
When we are done with Tax cuts and healthcare and such, we will be working on making it mandatory that you carry a gun!

Maybe two.

And don't give me no "Laws are only for the law abiding" stuff.

Some of the same old mindless arguments based on anecdotal or case and circumstance evidence.

It is easier to kill a person with a gun and without changing the second amendment that is what we have accepted.

This all began with the Las Vegas loonie, and we can do things to slow the slaughter of innocent people.

Yet somehow someone who enjoys playing Rambo for a days fun prevents any change at all.

I believe in the principle behind the second amendment, but not the current interpretation. It is being applied to technology that did not exist at the time it was written.

We are also talking about things we never talked about in society back then so do you want to fix the First Amendment too?

Who cares if some whiny ass snowflake liberals dont like guns. We will always have guns and it will never change.

Actually, your constitutional rights have been amended 27 times since the constitution was ratified... and they will be again.


Sure it does.. because how you "feel" is how you vote.. and if enough people vote a certain way... things change... as you have made perfectly clear in your gloating since November.

It was Trump who spoke about hammering the media and infringing on their first amendment rights..... not me.

I know you're a wheel gun man

I'm there!



"Hey boss! Let's talk about my last Performance Evaluation."

"What do you mean, 'I have a bad temper?'"

Did you know when you posted that that those are two of my revolvers?

Wait a minute! That is the table in my garage too!

You look good in them there pics!
Dressed like a Man!

Are we just going to forget about the South, like Louisiana, who boasts the most gun deaths out of any US state. Most of the Southern states dominate the lists for death by gun violence.

I don't know. This link: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/21/
from CBS shows Alaska has the highest percentage of gun deaths per 100,000. More than 80% were suicides.

(I love how each state is listed as having "no permit required to purchase a fire arm".........

Of course, we have to keep in mind suicides, homicides, and accidental deaths are included.

Then there's this link: https://ww2.kqed.org/lowdown/2016/01/07/map-which-states-have-the-highest-gun-death-rates/

And, again, we need to keep in mind it is showing "deaths per 100,000" population.

I'm not sure why that would contradict anything I said.

80% suicides in Alaska?

What the hell is going on up there? Cabin fever? Holy crap bro

Vitamin D deficiency

I spent a month up there and one day the wife and I took a walk through the woods and came upon the towns cemetery. The tombstones showed the age of birth and death as usual and most of the people were 45 and younger!

Long, cold, dark and lonely winters I suspect.

Originally Posted By: Swish


80% of what?

Can't be deaths. (A 1% of all deaths by suicide would be huge.)

Could be Browns fans (you OK Rocket?)

Maybe moose?

80% of gun deaths are suicide in Alaska, according to the article.

Is this the same guy that cried for mommy when I said I'd like to catch some trump supporter in an alley? That same safe space seeking conservative that made a big deal about how I was threatening somebody? The same guy that drug that 'one post' up time and time again to use against me?

And now this timid Trump supporter that never served a day in the military is threatening to "drop like a rock" an actual vet? SICKENING.

Well if somebody breaks into my house with a gun they better hope they are a quick draw and a good shot because my german shepherd will have something to say about them being in my house too. If your dogs are big enough, fast enough, and mean enough, then guns are like butter knives.

A splinter dropped you like a rock, so I don't see why 40 cant. lol

There is NO BETTER home protection system that a good dog or two or three or Five...

Better keep your dog on a short leash. If I accidentally walk into your house and it bites me, I'll sue the living crap out of you. Even if the mistake was mine to begin with.

No gun, "just, mistook the house for mine, and this dog went ape on me." I win, in your liberal world.

30% of my yearly work happens in and around Detroit.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You can make your point without exaggerating the data.

I don't like hijacking threads, but when I see stuff like that, it triggers me something fierce.

Detroit has the highest violent crime rate of any major city in the country, according to the FBI. I'm sure there are decent enough areas. "All of Detroit" wasn't quite meant to be taken literally. That said, anybody who happens to live there would be wise to consider selling.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/09/police_chief_challenges_crime.html

Although I agree with Clem (I've spent some late nights following concerts and sporting events in Detroit without a problem), this part of the quote is comic gold:

Yet, the young white crowd are flocking to Detroit as they can buy a house for the cost of a Happy Meal. Once you get middle class folks to start buying in the city again, the gentrification happens to the shops. The trick will be to turn it into a place where people want to play at night. It will take time as the entire US turned their head on Detroit and allowed it to be become what it did. But, if people believe and are resilient...it can transform. Look at Times Square. Those who are young may not remember nor know but, TSq was a cesspool of porn, drugs, prostitutes and crime in the 70s and 80s. Now it is where all the tourists flock and it has been taken over by Disney musicals (not sure which is worst, to be honest)!

Nice catch, didn't even see that the first time.

I accept Clem's and your explanation about Detroit as it's been many years since I've been there and even then only in passing.

That being said, I don't think I'm entirely wrong either when the FBI numbers say it is literally has the highest per capita violent crime rate in the country. Surely it is much higher in some areas than others, but again.. I don't really know the specifics.

Actually, this would be the time to buy, for people who live their. Detroit's land bank program is one of the best in the nation, offering great deals on land. It's also starting to have a real burgeoning art scene, as far as the mid west is concerned. I have no doubt it's the most violent city in America, but as bad as Chicago and Detroit are, they're not bad enough to make neither Illinois nor Michigan rank above the top 10 in murder rate per capita.