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If youre interested in playing / being part of the team you make curfew. Cut the bums.

Heckert was the best GM since the return easily, passing on Julio aside. It's too bad his idiot boss was involved in the decision making.

I think Banner could have proven a winner here if he was left alone. It was popular to pile on at the time and be glad that Banner was gone. But it's easy to see as time has passed that Haslam is the real problem. Banner didn't help matters by hiring his buddy Lombardi, then backstabbing each other. But the guy was bright, had some outside the box thinking but without going completely off the ledge.

The Cleveland Browns...a disaster since 1999.

lol mangini was better.. got a player that is still playing at a elite level for how many years? 1 and done lol

He had that rep before he came here .. when he came here (after creating a dumb ass power struggle in Phili with Reid .... ) ...

Then when he got here ... he ran Chud and Norv out of town and then was such a jackass doing interviews thats when the thief decided to fire him ... i think it was Mularkey that came in and asked him who the hell he thought he was and what had he ever accomplished ... he said when he interviewed with us the year before banner was condescending and basically a jack ass ...

I think Banner had Napoleon complex ... *L* ...

Chud ran himself out of town. He was an awful coach. Far worse than Hue. I'm surprised how many people pine for Chud sometimes on here.

Yeah, I remember the Banner being a jerk in interviews stuff. I forgot about that until you brought it up. I still think he was smart and could have done well if given time.

lol how long reid last without him? and haslam couldnt have run chud out? he has since why couldnt it have been him?

Your entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is ... u obviously don’t remember how it went down ... i’d explain but based off your reaction to my last post u either forgot how it went down or like the revisionist history better ..

Not gonna waste my time explaining the time line and how it went down ...

The fact u either forgot or just don’t want to admit there was a ton of friction between banner/dumbo and Chud is really all i need to know about your opinion ..

Later dude ..

Not to mention Banner bringing leakmaster Lombardi into the fold.

OK ...Chud sucked here ... ....

hue may be a better HC than Chud .. we don’t know yet ... we’ll find out soon enough .. Chud will get another shot .. we’ll know more on Hue by then ..

It doesn’t really matter ...

Chud’s a very good O mind ... very good ... i believe he can be a good HC ... but i don’t know .. all i know is anyone crapping on him cause of how his year here went has no clue what their talking about ...

Yeah, I remember the Banner being a jerk in interviews stuff. I forgot about that until you brought it up. I still think he was smart and could have done well if given time.

He was very smart ... so is Sashi ... there’s a lot of smart football executives w/o the football experience ..

Banner did diddly in Phili ... DIDDLY ... he’s “Don” Policy jr. .... *LOL* ...

Banner couldn’t get a HC to work for him cause he acted like an arrogant know it all in interviews ... but ya .. he could have done a good job ... ...

j/c:

Not sure why we are talking about Banner, Heckert, and The Big Show?

Not sure why Britt is getting way more attention than Coleman?

Britt has always been a jerk and I told you guys that when we signed him. Heck, I remember getting scolded when I disputed a poster who said that Britt was a good veteran leader for our young WRs. I asked him to check out Britt's police record.

Anyway, the biggest story to me is Coleman. I hate Baylor players. They almost always flame out. They had a HC in Art Briles who is as filthy as it gets. I think Coleman is another ass who is going to flame out and bounce around the league.

Glad our FO passed on Wentz and traded down a couple of times and eventually grabbed C. Coleman. We're building it "the right way."

Educate me. I'm willing to keep an open mind.

I'm pretty sure this post will be met with crickets, however. And if not, it will some capitalized words ... lots of "....", maybe a few rolls of the eyes, vague accusations. All the stuff that make it entertaining.

Insult me .. thats a good way to get a solid reply back ... ..

Chuds a very good - great O mind .. he’s gotten a lot of his talent everywhere’s hes been .. just like Hue ...

The 2nd reason I believe he can be a good HC is the fact Norv Turner took a job UNDER HIM ... that showed just how much Norv (who knows O and has had plenty of HC experience) respected and thought of Chud ...

Chud was Norv’s OC in San Diego ... and when Norv got fired he could have to any open job he wanted ... he chose to go to a team with VERY LITTLE talent at best as opposed to going to better situations ...

That told me a lot about what Norv thought of Chud ... and that was good enough for me ...

Shouldn't this thread be about Coleman and Britt and not past coaches?

So was that not a solid reply?

I felt throughout Chud's season here, the team lacked discipline and fight. I thought Chud looked shell shocked in most pressers. There were rumors he had lost the locker room. But what did it for me was I believe after game 12 or 13, when the season was essentially over, he talked about accountability in his presser. It was sad. You could see the flames under his seat and he was grasping for straws trying to say anything that sounded good or might save his job. I knew right then it was over. Hell, if I recall correctly, he didn't even make it to the team bus after game 16.

I think people thought Chud would be a good coach because he was a good O coordinator here. But being the head guy seemed too much for him. I don't think it's a coincidence that he hasn't sniffed another head coaching gig. All the guys in the league know all the guys in the league.

Not saying he won't get another shot. Not saying he won't succeed. And we really don't know if he would have succeeded here had he been given more time, but it's my opinion that Chud wasn't ready and was a perfect example of the Peter Principle. I'm not sure what others saw in him that make them believe he didn't get a fair shake.

But in all honesty, nobody really gets a fair shake in Cleveland. They never have a QB to work with.

Once in awhile things get off topic in here ... just once in awhile though ...

The NFL Network first reported the incident Saturday, saying that Browns coach Hue Jackson would not lower his curfew standards for Britt and Coleman, who both were injured at the time and would not have played in the game.


But a source told Schefter that in previous weeks, injured Browns players who were going to be inactive for games had not been required to adhere to curfew.


Britt, who was out last week with a groin injury, and Coleman, who is on injured reserve with a broken hand, returned to the team hotel in Houston at 1:15 a.m. local time last Saturday night, well after the team's 11 p.m. curfew, the source told Schefter. The receivers did not go to the game -- a 33-17 loss for the winless Browns -- and arrived back in Cleveland at the same time as the rest of the team, the source told Schefter.

The Browns have declined comment on this report. Britt is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Tennessee Titans but is expected to play, according to Schefter.

Britt signed a four-year, $32.5 million deal with the Browns this past offseason but has struggled in his first season with Cleveland, hauling in just eight receptions for 121 yards and one touchdown in four games.

Coleman was Cleveland's first-round draft selection last year but has been plagued by injuries, appearing in just 12 games since the start of the 2016 season.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21103...od-curfew-rules

Can’t argue with what u said ... we just see it differently ...

By week 10 him and coaching staff wanted to KILL the FO ... they did not get along at all ... it was sad ...

Not since bOtch has a coach had enough time ... *L* ...

Haslams the worst owner in all of sports right now ...maybe of all time ...

We’ve been a joke ... HOPEFULLY this group can get it done ...

When teams suck, and Cleveland always does, there's a lot of these types of stories.

I think there's some twitter report that Kizer was out until 1:45am I believe this morning. Not sure if there was a curfew or not imposed when it's not the night before game day but some seem to be making a big deal of it.

Just par for the course of a Cleveland Browns season.

I'm afraid things will never get better with Haslam as the owner.

Same thing was said about Randy Lerner...be careful of what you ask for.

Who would you want to buy the Browns that has the money and would be approved by the other owners? Why would your chouce succeed?

Damage control. A writer was not even attributed to the story.

Barely past the quarter pole and there's more talk about the Browns off the field than on it.

Sad.

When teams suck, things like this occur ... and are reported/dwelled upon much more intensely.

I can only speak for me, but 'Banners draft' is my first answer...

Mingo, Leon McFadden, Jamoris Slaughter, Armonty Bryant, Garret Gilkey...

I feel there have been more signs of talent from this FO, albeit from a larger sample size.

Also, Banner was tight with Mike Lombardi, who has proven himself to be useless in many football capacities. And Banner couldn't be bothered to stay once his buddy got canned.

This FO & coaching staff seems to me to be a B/B- group right now, but that is a significant upgrade over many we've had. I'd rather let all these young guys (players AND decision-makers) get a few more years experience, and if we need to clean house, hopefully hire someone who won't strip it all the way to the studs, but instead build upon the pieces we have.

All that said, cutting Britt would be nothing like letting other vets go (Haden, Barnidge, DD, etc.)

I disagree, I think its a sign of how bad the FO refuses to cut "their guys" or acknowledge they made a mistake. Those Elite Harvard types refuse to be wrong, until they get fired.

Interesting.
Coleman & Gordon on the field together.

Now, if Garrett can get back on the field and everyone else stays healthy, I think that this season is going to end on an upswing as these kids get more acclimated to playing together.

IMO, I think this puts Gordon as #1 and Corey in his rightful, slot, position.

Then we can bet on who gets injured or suspended first?

LOL

But, on a serious note: I don't really see Coleman as a slot receiver. Yeah, he's small but he isn't a good route runner and isn't very crafty.

If the kid could ever practice, I think he'd learn and execute. Even when he's healthy, he's limited in reps... and still gets hurt.

He has crazy ups and can leap like a frog, but I don't like him on the outside. I think his speed, body and etc is best for slot, but JMO of course.

With that said, maybe him on the outside opposite of Josh with the speed could put defense secondaries on it's heels? A lot of what ifs I suppose.

Think Martavious Bryant. Lots of go routes to open things up underneath. Our TE's might benefit the most if Coleman and JG are on the field together.

Be hellish nice to see some play-making out of the the last 2 true overall first picks we took... Is 6 or 7 games with them both active asking too much? (I figure asking for 8 games IS asking too much!)

Coleman came into the league as a super-raw speedy guy that can jump. He CURRENTLY does not have the skills required to be in the slot (namely, running super-precise routes).

Could he do that at some point... probably. He's got all the raw ability in the world... but why would we do that? Who's the talented WR that's pushing him down the depth chart?

There's nobody to push him down on the depth chart. The problem is, the vast majority of WR's aren't as gifted in their 8th and 9th years in the NFL as they are in years 1-6.

Doesn't look good for our dropsy types who haven't been worth a bucket of spit during those "formative years", neh? The downside of down is . . . .