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What did Haslam think he was signing up for when he promoted Sashi Brown and hired Paul DePodesta?

We are going to fire guys for doing what we knew they were going to do the moment they were hired.

The problem with that is you have to find someone that wants to keep everyone. I don't think that will happen.

I agree.

Defensively, the foundation has been laid. Front 7 is in place. Secondary needs a more natural FS, and then they will be set too.

Offensively, we need some help at a few positions, most notably QB and WR. O-line is solid, and so are the TE & HB positions.

We are young. We are winless, and I know its frustrating.. but stick with the plan. We will be competitive if we do. If we hit another reset button, we are taking a lot of steps backwards.

I had no idea they gave out preseason rings now.

I agree we should retain everyone and follow the plan. It doesn't do any good to blow this up again; at least not right now. As far as Hue changing QB's so much, I think he is just doing it because he wants a win so badly. He is feeling the pressure, the losing is bothering him and I don't blame him. I don't like it either, none of us do. He's never gone through anything like this before.

I don't like how he is changing qbs so often. It's not a good strategy.

I don't think Hue is dumb. Thus, I am thinking there is a rift between Hue and Sashi and the former is feeling pressure to win games because he knows his neck is on the line.

The preceding paragraph is pure speculation w/no factual evidence.

I don't think this is going to turn out well.

It rarely does when the team is 0-7 and 1-22 the last 2 seasons.

So rare in fact, I don't know that it ever has.

Acquire QB Chase Daniel Now!!!!

a plan that many, including yourself, have panned.



The front office has deferred to Hue on this and he is the one in charge of making that decision. Hue gets no free pass here.



I think Sashi has done an average job here. Hue definitely is respected as an offensive coordinator. I don't think teams would be jumping at the chance to hire him as Head Coach. He doesn't handle game situations well, his team plays undisciplined, and he flip flops more than John Kerry during a 2004 presidential debate.


very true.



There are definitely issue in both places. You do not go 1-22 on accident.



Not a single person has proven, since they left Cleveland, that firing them was a mistake. Yeah, they haven't gotten time, but none of them deserved time, either. And I see no reason to keep these guys just...well, because. I understand wanting to keep things the same, but I'm not confident in this vision at all right now.

Additionally, I don't want Hue and this FO to blow another draft where we have a real chance to change the team.



I'm glad you gave me a reasoned and well thought out response. People are obviously emotional right now, it's good to see a thoughtful approach.

We disagree on quite a few of the particulars, but that's cool. Honest debate is welcomed.

Just throwing this out there:

Is Gregg Williams our next HC?

<<sigh>>

I'm not saying we should, I'm merely putting the question out there.
> rolls eyes>

Hue’s going no where bro ... NO WHERE ... i can’t prove it til mid January .. but you’ll see ...

And damm, i hope it ain’t him if i am wrong ... imagine how far back he’d have Kizer playing from center .... ...

Lol!

He would probably put Peppers back there.

Hmmm ... interesting .... I wonder if Kizer can play FS ... *L* ...

True.

LOL

He's pretty good at the preventing completions.


Relax y'all.............just joking.

I will say, I'm embarassed to know I predicted us to win as many games as I did in the prediction thread before the season started.

Gosh, if we win AT ALL, by any amount of points, to anyone... it'll be nothing short of a miracle. This is one seriously bad, horrible and poor team and organization.

Adam Schefter was on the board all along and we never knew.

This! I have zero confidence in their selection ability. I'm not big on what's going on but I need to see another year. The D IS showing flashes and some quality dbacks would be nice.

This next draft needs to be masterful!!

Or Kenny Britt. He is prety good at breaking up passes.

As bad as Britts been ... as far as drops ...

Louis has been worse ... and the thing with Louis .. when he does happen to catch th ball ... it looks like he’s “fighting” with it ... its like his hands are allergic to the football and there trying to reject it .. *L* ...

It doesn’t look natural for lack of a better word ... not smooth at all ...

Just curious. Is he in the running for our Braylon Edwards Award this year?

Seems a worthy candidate. Could be a swell competition for that recognition.

Talk among yourselves.

If Haslam were smart, he'd hold on to Hue. Guys actually respect him. That is no easy feat to get respect when you're the head coach of the Cleveland Browns..

With Hue, guys will actually consider coming to Cleveland via free agency.. Speaks a ton to me that Jamie Collins stayed on board.

I do think the FO needs help though. They have done some good things, but they need someone to bridge the gap between the coach and the front office. It seems to me that there is a disconnect when we cut guys like Joe Haden, whether he deserved it or not.

Hue Jackson's only head coaching experience in the NFL was in Oakland were he went 8-8 and was fired. He needs to be let go!

We all so need a new owner but that's not happening. To bad the owner can't be fired, he needs to go also.

The players respect Hue because his smooth talking hoodwinks them. I'll tell you how you get respect, win a lot of games!!! Vrabel for head coach!!! Go Browns!!

People that want to fire Hue, and let me be clear before I continue... I'm having a hard time supporting Hue too - but, WHO will replace him that's going to have any credibility? Who will want to come to a place they know they will get fired in two years tops, regardless the bad drafting and how we shaped the roster (tear down)? Who will come to a place that likely to have won one or two games in two seasons combined?

The answer is, likely no one already better than Hue factoring how bad he already is. We're already paying people, former coaches, to do nothing at all because they're not here anymore (or even in the NFL) as-is.

As bad as it is, we need to ease up on the trigger finger.

I'm not really understanding the people who want Hue here. It's unbelievable! What do they see in him? I don't want to fire anybody either but COME ON! This guy will never ever go to a Superbowl as coach ever. Ain't going to happen people. Give it up! Look at Sean McVay as a 1st year coach with the Rams. He is only 31. They have the 2nd youngest team in the NFL and they are winning big time. Hue is clueless. Not a head coach. He is tormenting a lot of good Browns fans because he wants to be something he is not. You have to fire this guy!!!

I'd fire the front office long before I fire Hue. No other decent coach is going to even give the Browns the time of day if we fire Hue after 2 years into the middle of a complete tear down.

We rebooted and we don't have a QB. We don't have a WR worth a darn. That is on the front office not Hue. Hue has a PROVEN track record with building up QBs. We just need to give him one worth a darn.

I think Hue is a good coach. Has he made mistakes? sure but all coaches do. He is in a very difficult situation, one in which he has never been in before. It could be argued very few if any NFL coaches have ever been in a situation like this what with all the losing and a 1-23 record. Because of this he may be making decisions he wouldn't normally make and quick ones at that. I'd say keep him and add more talent. We certainly need more on O for sure.

I think in a way he is being overly aggressive to teach these guys that he believes in them and trusts them to make plays but you can clearly see he is frustrated by their inability to execute plays properly.

It's a good thing we have a sharp individual like you to enlighten us so we don't get hoodwinked like the players!

Do you notice that he always has an excellent excuse for everything. It is so believable...

Wait one! I think I was hoodwinked in the preseason winning binge. I find that I still like Hue, but it is slipping some.

Any hope for recovery? Just an atrocious game Sunday, so I am seeking treatment. I found my self in rally-cap mode cheering for a win in public and wanting a FG. We have sunk to new lows. I even read about Kizer last week.

My apologies to all concerned.

And it really SUCKS for the Domers ... we’d have a very very legite shot at the playoffs if we had Kizer ...

I said one of the reasons he left was cause he wasn’t sure if he would start or not ... well THIS DOMER was way wrong about that ....

Wimbush is way more innacuratte than Kizer ... WAY MORE ...

And we have a hell of a football team on both O and D around him ...

- one of it not the best OL in the country ... there could be better, just not sure how ...

- our D is way better than i thought it was ... WAY BETTER ...

STUPID KIZER ... *L* ..... he ruined ND’s playoff shot and he may pan out here (its still to early guys ... he wasn’t ready ... but its not over quite yet ... ) but for now he’s killing us ...

Agreed. The Browns FO has made the damning mistakes of trading away top draft picks year in and year out. Not Hues fault. The FO instead banks on the quantity of future picks and later rd draft picks and not quality of talent early in the draft. It's not Hue's fault. The Browns FO fail to re-sign top talent in FA every year. Not Hue's fault. The Browns cap space is usually one of the highest in the NFL. Not Hue's fault. The Browns FO, coaching staff and entire team is perpetually in rebuild mode. Not Hues fault. The Oakland Raiders have the highest beer costs in the NFL. Now that's probably Hues fault.