DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Hypothetical Hue/Front office question.

So, let's say the Browns keep everyone, coaches, FO, the lot.

Besides getting players, what do they do/change to avoid the same type of season? Does Hue get an OC? Do they change the type of offense they run?

Please opine.

I think the Browns should add someone to be in charge of the roster. I do not think Sashi is qualified to make personnel decisions.

We have good coaches. Get them some talent.

Let Sashi handle the financial things and bring in a football guy to make personnel decisions.

I'd like to see an offensive coordinator and a football guy in charge of the roster... I like some of the business moves we've made but not sure on the talent we've picked

Yes, this would be extremely pleasing for me.

If they went out and got an OC, do you think it would be simply a case of Hue saying "This is the offense we run, deal with it."? Or would he actually allow the OC to develop an offense that would fit the talent they have? This has been my biggest concern with Hue.

1) time for trading back in the draft should be over.

2) our first pick should be a QB then BPA from that point on.

3) I think Hue might benefit from an OC

4) this off season we need to go after the top FA WR's period.

5) run the ball at least 20 times a game.

thats all I got for now...

I am of the opinion that if we get an OC, he should be in charge of his offense...or what's the point?

Unfortunately.....I think the horse is out of the barn.

Oh, I thought you were being legit. Instead, it's just another "Bash Hue" thread.

Your biggest concern w/Hue is that he can't develop an offense that fits his talent? So genius, can you tell me why Hue was the hottest coaching candidate a couple of years ago and why did the Browns hire him?

I'm going to be real clear. Again! This mess isn't the work of Hue............it's about the talent and lack of experience of the roster.

What is the point of hiring a OC and giving him control of the offense when we have one of the NFL's brightest minds already running it?

Did the roster have anything do to with declining the facemask penalty or was that on Hue?

That was Hue.

But then again, I don't think we are 0 and 7 because of that decision.

Do you, Mr. Snarky?

Mr. Snarky? How adult.

FWIW.. Everyone on the roster will have another year of experience next year.. problem is, what kind of experience?

I figured you would avoid the question.

Here is the deal: The FO is FAR MORE RESPONSIBLE for our record than Hue. It ain't close. And you guys keep blaming Hue.

Oh look...........Carson Wentz just threw a perfect bomb for a TD and our brilliant FO said they didn't think he was a top 20 qb.

That decision has far more to do w/our overall record than that singular play you brought up.

A losing experience. That is why the plan was dumb from the get-go.

Losing this many games is not smart. People blame the wrong parties. The team develops a losing culture. The owner gets impatient and fires people. Dumb ass plan and the geniuses on here act like it's Hue's fault.

With you the low hanging fruit is so easy it’s unavoidable.

Here’s the point. While the offensive talent may suck and the front office certainly sucks, so does Hue. He’s not offering up anything to the team as a whole that may aid in getting our first win. He’s just another boat anchor dragging this team down.

Here is the point.............read the thread title.

The FO side of it needs fixing way more than the coaching side does.

Stay on topic and stop your dumb ass crusade to make Hue look bad.

Btw...........did you just see that throw Wentz had to Ertz. Our FO didn't like him as a qb.

Brilliant!

We need to bring in a person to make personnel decisions and cannot afford to allow Sashi [the lawyer] and Depo [the BB guy] make football talent evaluations.

that is why I put "if" we got an OC lol...I don't think we will.

I’m pretty sure it’s Hue’s dumb ass crusade to make himself look bad. What kind of moron doesn’t take a 15 yard personal foul? He is not a professional head coach in the NFL, he’s an idiot who’s in way over his head.

How adult.

How original.

The thing is for Hue to train his own OC like Bill does. They don't bring in outside guys they promote a guy they have trained for it to do it their way. Then if he wants something he just overrides his OC or DC.

For example, They bring in a guy like Manning and make him OC assistant and say here is what we do and what we want you to learn. He spends a year or two learning it. Then they let him call a quarter, then a half or two, and then start calling games.

Then could bring in a college coach also and have him learn Hue's offense and gradually move into playcalling over time. Hue still has final say and can take over any time.

Either way the Front Office HAS to land us a legit QB and a legit #1 WR next season or I say fire them for incompetence. You can't win if you can't score points.

Razor, this kind of goes back to one of my orignal questions. Is Hue the type of person who would let an OC call a game/develop an offense, or is he the type of person who would micromanage and override them? I don't know.

Butch Davis had 4 years here plus some good talent. we made the playoffs.

romeo crennel had 4 years here plus some good talent. we went 10-6.

our next best record with a different coach was 7-9 with pettine, had decent talent.

at some point we have to acknowledge that in general, it won't matter what coach we have if we don't give him anything to work with.

The FO has not given Hue a WR, a QB, a RB.

i understand why people are frustrated with Hue, some of his decisions during the game are head scratchers.

but the guy is trying whatever the hell MIGHT work because we are lacking talent. there's no way around that, guys.

a lot of you guys complain about the playcall without considering that we don't have the personnel to properly execute plays.

how many freaking times had we got a big play, only to have it negated by a dumbass penalty from inexperience?

the FO made our O line the highest paid in the league i think, and yet Crowell is getting met in the backfield by 1-2 defenders damn near every snap. and it's about to be a whole lot worse now that Joe is out for the season.

unfortunately i don't see Hue surviving this offseason, and that sucks because the FO decided to completely blow up the roster. we have little to no experience in a bunch of positions on this team.

and that ain't on Hue.

I'm ok with maybe forcing hue to get an OC, but what i'm NOT ok with is having 5 picks in the first two rounds and Sashi is the one picking the players.

Hue isn't the one trading back. he isn't the one signing bums like calvin pryor who couldn't even stay on the team. he isn't the one signing Britt or cutting Haden.

i know we're all fans here but i can't properly evaluate Hue because the guy is trying to coach a college team in the NFL. we are the youngest, most inexperienced team in the NFL.

i have faith in Hue. i have zero faith in this FO.

Fans will go crazy because they have no patience "the capacity to accept or tolerate delay, trouble, or suffering without getting angry or upset" or if you want another definition "the quality of being patient, as the bearing of provocation, annoyance, misfortune, or pain, without complaint, loss of temper, irritation, or the like. 2. an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with delay"

yeeaa....I don't think Hue is going anywhere anytime soon.

There is not enough of folks like you on here. They think Hue is a winner. LOL A QB Guru LOL

Hue's not blameless in this.

so calling Hue names is the answer?....fascinating

Hue is gone!!!!!!!

this thread went sideways in record fashion. lol

No name calling, just facts! Just truth!

Now, there is a ringing endorsement.

Where did I say he wasn't.

I was trying to respond to the thread title.

I got news for you..........The FO is not blameless in this.

The difference is that I'm not running around here calling for them to be fired all the time.

I want us to stay the course.

God forbid!

Hue will be gone! Hate to burst your bubble!!!

Believe it or not, me too. But Hue is making some bonehead decisions, IMO because managing a game AND calling plays is too much for him. Some coaches can do it, I don't think Hue is one of them...at least not with a roster full of young, inexperienced players that need leadership.

Yes, yes it did.

You are probably right.

We will still suck. Love bursting your bubble.

One of the reasons I posted my question about what kind of experience our roster would have next year.. Vers is right, they will have a losing experience. In other words, they don't know how to win at this level.

Each time we get a new FO / GM / HC.. they ALL prattle on and on about "Changing the culture"

If the only experience they come out of this season is LOSING.. WTF have we gained?

The only way out of this IMO.. is we need to be BIG spenders in FA.. we need to acquire players that know how to lead and know how to win. I want to get one of the FA QB's for that reason. We need to make our move and mean it. That means either Cousins or JimmyG.. sign them to a 3 year deal and draft another QB in the 1st round.

Then move up again and get WR.. and I'd even entertain the thought of Saquon Barkley

I'm even going to add an Edit here.. I'd approach KC about Alex Smith.. the Chiefs run an offense very similar to Hue's.