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The Dixie Chicks were free to make the statements they made. They also got to deal with the backlash. Kinda like Kap.


And yet the Kaepernick foundation just donated another $100K in Sept to communities of color and organizations helping the oppressed. While the Dixie Chicks 2016 summer tour was the second-highest grossing country tour.





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So in this analogy is the South supposed to represent the Soviet Union?


Talk about making things up. rolleyes


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That was comparing tearing down Lees statue...you come off twisted.


lol can't even keep your story straight rofl


It was about getting rid of history not hating symbols...try to keep up.


lmao

Moving statues and teaching history in museums and schools rather than having things displayed in public parks doesn't erase history. The BS some people make up is hilarious.


Then what is the purpose of tearing it down after it stood for over a hundred years?

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Because lionizing traitors and slave owners are bad, mkay?

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Because lionizing traitors and slave owners are bad, mkay?


So just erase history pretend it never happened.








There is Black on Black slavery going on today in Africa the mother land what are you doing to end it? To busy with your freedoms to care?

Tearing down hundred year old statues is more important?

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Because lionizing traitors and slave owners are bad, mkay?


So just erase history pretend it never happened.




There is Black on Black slavery going on today in Africa the mother land what are you doing to end it? To busy with your freedoms to care?

Tearing down hundred year old statues is more important?


What does lionize mean to you? Also, who is that dude in the photo you posted?

I know this may surprise you, who can't breathe and walk at the same time, but people can do multiple things at once. You can even fight against slavery on two fronts - a shock for you, I'm sure, as you're normally fighting for it. Why do you support slavery and slave owners?

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Because lionizing traitors and slave owners are bad, mkay?


So just erase history pretend it never happened.




There is Black on Black slavery going on today in Africa the mother land what are you doing to end it? To busy with your freedoms to care?

Tearing down hundred year old statues is more important?


What does lionize mean to you? Also, who is that dude in the photo you posted?

I know this may surprise you, who can't breathe and walk at the same time, but people can do multiple things at once. You can even fight against slavery on two fronts - a shock for you, I'm sure, as you're normally fighting for it. Why do you support slavery and slave owners?


So you are doing nothing to stop slavery in Africa.

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Why do you support slavery?

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Because the country we are talking about is America?


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Because the country we are talking about is America?


Even in America, boycotting transnational companies that thrive on exploiting third world labor markets, helps a bit in the fight against slavery. Much to Vambo's chagrin.

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You do understand that monuments are a celebration and honor to these people, right? You do understand that these statues honor those who promoted slavery and violence to minorities, right?

You do understand that many of them did not even exist until some time between 1910 and the 1950's, right? Long after the Civil war was over.

Why do you find it so important to commemorate these things rather than put them in museums where people are actually learning history rather than place them in some place of honor and reverence? There are many things to learn from this part of our history, but nothing to celebrate except we defeated slavery and the oppression of millions of Americans.


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Because the country we are talking about is America?


Even in America, boycotting transnational companies that thrive on exploiting third world labor markets, helps a bit in the fight against slavery. Much to Vambo's chagrin.


I agree. And it’s pretty tough to do seeing as we’ve completely gone dependent on imports now.

I’m currently trying to transition from Nike to Under Armour now that they have some clothing actually made in America, since Nike still has exploited labor problems. It’s hard because UA’s clothing and shoe lines are so trash. My wife wears Adidas but that’s a German company so...


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At least Germany pays their workers. They are also a friendly nation. Well accept for Trump. He doesn't seem to want to be friends with them. lol


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And they make beer proof shoes for Oktoberfest! Yippee!

http://www.wweek.com/arts/fashion/2017/0...or-oktoberfest/

Gotta love the DPBR's..."durable puke and beer repellent"

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Because the country we are talking about is America?


So slavery is only bad in the USA in your opinion and OK in Africa.

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Because the country we are talking about is America?


Even in America, boycotting transnational companies that thrive on exploiting third world labor markets, helps a bit in the fight against slavery. Much to Vambo's chagrin.


What companies are you boycotting that supply goods that you use?

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Because the country we are talking about is America?


So slavery is only bad in the USA in your opinion and OK in Africa.


no.

and you are completely reaching. spin spin spin spin spin yourself away from the actual topic.


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Because the country we are talking about is America?


Even in America, boycotting transnational companies that thrive on exploiting third world labor markets, helps a bit in the fight against slavery. Much to Vambo's chagrin.


What companies are you boycotting that supply goods that you use?


Walmart.


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You do understand that monuments are a celebration and honor to these people, right? You do understand that these statues honor those who promoted slavery and violence to minorities, right?

You do understand that many of them did not even exist until some time between 1910 and the 1950's, right? Long after the Civil war was over.

Why do you find it so important to commemorate these things rather than put them in museums where people are actually learning history rather than place them in some place of honor and reverence? There are many things to learn from this part of our history, but nothing to celebrate except we defeated slavery and the oppression of millions of Americans.


You do understand those men did other things besides own slaves right? Was there an engraving that said we honor these men for owning slaves?

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You do understand that monuments are a celebration and honor to these people, right? You do understand that these statues honor those who promoted slavery and violence to minorities, right?

You do understand that many of them did not even exist until some time between 1910 and the 1950's, right? Long after the Civil war was over.

Why do you find it so important to commemorate these things rather than put them in museums where people are actually learning history rather than place them in some place of honor and reverence? There are many things to learn from this part of our history, but nothing to celebrate except we defeated slavery and the oppression of millions of Americans.


You do understand those men did other things besides own slaves right? Was there an engraving that said we honor these men for owning slaves?


that's dangerous logic Vambo, because that same logic can be used on guys like Hitler.

"i know hitler killed jews but he did other things too"


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You do understand that monuments are a celebration and honor to these people, right? You do understand that these statues honor those who promoted slavery and violence to minorities, right?

You do understand that many of them did not even exist until some time between 1910 and the 1950's, right? Long after the Civil war was over.

Why do you find it so important to commemorate these things rather than put them in museums where people are actually learning history rather than place them in some place of honor and reverence? There are many things to learn from this part of our history, but nothing to celebrate except we defeated slavery and the oppression of millions of Americans.


You do understand those men did other things besides own slaves right? Was there an engraving that said we honor these men for owning slaves?


that's dangerous logic Vambo, because that same logic can be used on guys like Hitler.

"i know hitler killed jews but he did other things too"


Same thing can be said about black people...like Black Lies Matters calling out to kill whites and cops.

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.


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Cop killings have surged 41% this year. This is a misleading lie. While total line-of-duty deaths are up 25% so far this year, the number of cops who’ve been shot and killed has actually dropped year-over-year – from 21 to 18.

Take into account the more than 100 officers who took their own lives last year. You rarely hear conservatives talk about this because they aren't genuinely interested in the mental health of police officers, but just like to use their deaths as political footballs to make themselves look better.

Of the 145 police officers who died in some kind of way other than suicide last year, 56 died in some type of vehicular crash or accident, 10 died of heart attacks, four died of 9/11-related illnesses and two more drowned. In other words, of all the officers who died in the line of duty last year, the majority of them were not shot and killed.

Why blame Black Lives Matter Movement for last year’s rise in police deaths? – when in fact, white people have shot and killed more U.S. law enforcement officers than any other ethnic group, including the last three police officers who’ve been shot and killed in this country.

Marshall Barrus, a white man with a history of being very interested in anti-government extremism, is suspected of killing Deputy Sheriff Mason Moore in Montana.

Thomas Hartless, a white man with a history of violent crime, is accused of killing Kirkersville, Ohio Police Chief Steven DiSario. Hartless is also accused of shooting and killing two nursing home employees.


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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.



No, why wasn't it an issue until now? If it was so bad why didn't they protest erecting them why wait decades?

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.


They really dont. Not many people care that your sensitive snowflake feelings are offended by some statues. Only the hysterical alt left liberals in your circle.

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.



No, why wasn't it an issue until now? If it was so bad why didn't they protest erecting them why wait decades?


It’s always been an issue. You just wasn’t paying attention.

None of this was new to minority communities. It’s only new to you.


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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.


They really dont. Not many people care that your sensitive snowflake feelings are offended by some statues. Only the hysterical alt left liberals in your circle.


You know that ‘alt left liberals’ is redundant, right? That’s conservative education for you.


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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.


I'm not propping them up. Just pointing out there are bad apples in any group or police force. But go right ahead and ignore the numbers and blame BLM for the increase of cop killings including the suicides and drownings. Black Lives Matter probably drove them to suicide in the minds of many here.


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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.3186613


Cop killings have surged 41% this year. This is a misleading lie. While total line-of-duty deaths are up 25% so far this year, the number of cops who’ve been shot and killed has actually dropped year-over-year – from 21 to 18.

Take into account the more than 100 officers who took their own lives last year. You rarely hear conservatives talk about this because they aren't genuinely interested in the mental health of police officers, but just like to use their deaths as political footballs to make themselves look better.

Of the 145 police officers who died in some kind of way other than suicide last year, 56 died in some type of vehicular crash or accident, 10 died of heart attacks, four died of 9/11-related illnesses and two more drowned. In other words, of all the officers who died in the line of duty last year, the majority of them were not shot and killed.

Why blame Black Lives Matter Movement for last year’s rise in police deaths? – when in fact, white people have shot and killed more U.S. law enforcement officers than any other ethnic group, including the last three police officers who’ve been shot and killed in this country.

Marshall Barrus, a white man with a history of being very interested in anti-government extremism, is suspected of killing Deputy Sheriff Mason Moore in Montana.

Thomas Hartless, a white man with a history of violent crime, is accused of killing Kirkersville, Ohio Police Chief Steven DiSario. Hartless is also accused of shooting and killing two nursing home employees.


Baton Rouge officer sues Black Lives Matter over 2016 ambush of cops

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/09/us/lawsuit-black-lives-matter-baton-rouge/index.html

CNN)A wounded officer's lawsuit filed in federal court in Louisiana alleges Black Lives Matter and several of its leaders are responsible for last year's ambush on law enforcement in Baton Rouge.
The July 17, 2016, attack by gunman Gavin Long claimed the lives of two police officers and a sheriff's deputy and wounded two deputies and an officer.
Lawyers for one of the wounded law enforcement officers filed the complaint Friday in US District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana against various arms of the Black Lives Matter movement and leaders including DeRay Mckesson and Johnetta Elzie.

The complaint alleges Black Lives Matter and its leaders are responsible for the shooting because they "incited the violence against police in retaliation for the death (sic) of black men shot by police," and "did nothing to dissuade the ongoing violence and injury to police."

"In fact, they justified the violence as necessary to the movement and war," the complaint says.

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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.


I'm not propping them up. Just pointing out there are bad apples in any group or police force. But go right ahead and ignore the numbers and blame BLM for the increase of cop killings including the suicides and drownings. Black Lives Matter probably drove them to suicide in the minds of many here.


This has nothing to do with cops.

It has to do with Black Lies Matter endorsing cop killing.

And you propping them up.

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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.


I'm not propping them up. Just pointing out there are bad apples in any group or police force. But go right ahead and ignore the numbers and blame BLM for the increase of cop killings including the suicides and drownings. Black Lives Matter probably drove them to suicide in the minds of many here.


The way you ignore black on black killings are lesser of an issue than unarmed blacks being shot for no reason other than skin color.

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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.


I'm not propping them up. Just pointing out there are bad apples in any group or police force. But go right ahead and ignore the numbers and blame BLM for the increase of cop killings including the suicides and drownings. Black Lives Matter probably drove them to suicide in the minds of many here.


The way you ignore black on black killings are lesser of an issue than unarmed blacks being shot for no reason other than skin color.


PS has never ignored that issue. Please stop lying.


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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.



No, why wasn't it an issue until now? If it was so bad why didn't they protest erecting them why wait decades?


It’s always been an issue. You just wasn’t paying attention.

None of this was new to minority communities. It’s only new to you.


It's not new to me Please stop lying.

I don't recall any of those statues being protested torn down until now why? why not stop them from being erected in the first place if it was such a huge issue for minorities?

Why not while Oboma was in office?

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Blame Black Lies Matter for endorsing cop killing.

But by all means keep trying to prop up a hate group.


I'm not propping them up. Just pointing out there are bad apples in any group or police force. But go right ahead and ignore the numbers and blame BLM for the increase of cop killings including the suicides and drownings. Black Lives Matter probably drove them to suicide in the minds of many here.


The way you ignore black on black killings are lesser of an issue than unarmed blacks being shot for no reason other than skin color.


PS has never ignored that issue. Please stop lying.


You never bring it up, but will bring up cops shooting blacks sure looks like you ignore it.

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.



No, why wasn't it an issue until now? If it was so bad why didn't they protest erecting them why wait decades?


It’s always been an issue. You just wasn’t paying attention.

None of this was new to minority communities. It’s only new to you.


I don't recall any of those statues being protested torn down until now why? why not stop them from being erected in the first place if it was such a huge issue for minorities?

Why not while Oboma was in office?


You do realize this issue gained steam while Obama was in office, right?

You know what? I need to stop asking you that. Because you seem to be terribly unaware of the world around you.

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That’s fine, but at least you understand why statues of confederate soldiers need to be taken down.



No, why wasn't it an issue until now? If it was so bad why didn't they protest erecting them why wait decades?


It’s always been an issue. You just wasn’t paying attention.

None of this was new to minority communities. It’s only new to you.


I don't recall any of those statues being protested torn down until now why? why not stop them from being erected in the first place if it was such a huge issue for minorities?

Why not while Oboma was in office?


You do realize this issue gained steam while Obama was in office, right?


You know what? I need to stop asking you that. Because you seem to be terribly unaware of the world around you.


It did how many statues were torn down while Oboma was in office?

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As Swish stated this has always been an issue. Many just don't listen.

Louisville, Kentucky — November 19, 2016
Though it never seceded from the Union, the commonwealth of Kentucky was claimed by the Confederacy and now it has more statues commemorating the rebellion than any state that didn’t secede, according to the South Poverty Law Center. One of those, on the University of Louisville campus, was removed and relocated to a small town an hour away.

Boone County, Missouri — September 24, 2015
Forty years before Dylann Roof ignited a debate over Confederate monuments, a giant rock with a small plaque commemorating Confederate soldiers from Boone County was removed from the campus the University of Missouri and relocated the local courthouse. Several months after the massacre in Charleston, it was moved again, this time a historic site commemorating a nearby Civil War battle.

Austin, Texas — August 13, 2015
The momentum to remove the nine-foot-tall, 1,200-pound statue of Jefferson Davis from the UT Austin campus began with the election of a new student-body president, but it was settled after the massacre in Charleston. More than a year after its removal, the statue returned to


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Look how you keep changing the topic.

It’s gone from statues to BLM, to cops, to black on black crime, back to statues, to when it became popular, to who was president, to when did it get torn down.

Are you confused?

And how are you so set on what you believe if you keep asking these sorts of questions?

You guys on the board get that, right?

How is it that some of you have such passionate and stead fast opinions and beliefs on a topic you’re displaying you know so very little about?

Vambo, how could you have such a set in stone belief on something when you don’t even know the basic timeline of events?

You’re literally arguing on a position you’re trying to learn on the fly.

It is absolutely mind blowing how some of y’all operate on this board. You have no idea what you’re talking about, but somehow you know if you’re for or against it.


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It is absolutely mind blowing how some of y’all operate on this board. You have no idea what you’re talking about, but somehow you know if you’re for or against it.
sounds like any republican piece of policy set forth with your side. don't matter the policy, don't matter the substance, just matters who presented it........

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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It is absolutely mind blowing how some of y’all operate on this board. You have no idea what you’re talking about, but somehow you know if you’re for or against it.
sounds like any republican piece of policy set forth with your side. don't matter the policy, don't matter the substance, just matters who presented it........


like the people who hate obamacare but like the ACA?

like the people who don't want to give credit for obama growing the economy, but are now giving Trump credit under obama's policies?

we can go all day long, bro.


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