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so, the remainder:

Minnesota
BYE
at Detroit
Jacksonville
at Cincinnati
at San Diego
Green Bay
Baltimore
at Chicago
at Pittsburgh

How many of those are legitimately winnable? Minnesota's defense will destroy us. Detroit's offense/QB at home will be too much. Jacksonville is one of the toughest teams to play right now. Cincinnati on the road is a MAYBE, but doubtful. Not at San Diego. Green Bay without Rodgers? MAYBE. Baltimore at home? MAYBE. I don't think we win in Chicago. And at Pittsburgh is a freaking joke.

So, what? 2 wins is now our ceiling.

no to damaged goods.

I have a feeling the Browns are going to cut or trade him.

That is something a dumb arse like Sashi would do. He won't even trade him but just cut him.

I support it actually. Let the professional and elite athlete go play for a winner, there's nothing but sewer smell here.

Someone as tip top as Joe deserves a winner and an organization that is organized. Whether he wants to stay, I believe he wants to stay, but you do what's best for him. After two wins, his entire time as the Legend in Cleveland will be long forgotten.

You say that but it's NOT what Joe wants. Why force it on him when he doesn't want that. He only wants to play for one team and say he got to finish his career where he was drafted. He doesn't even like the idea of playing for another team just to trophy hunt because in his own words it just wouldn't mean as much unless it was with the Browns.

I love him, I do... but one question, legit:

After two back to back wins with a team worthy, do you think Joe cares what's happening in Cleveland anymore? Who is the head coach and all the other constant revolving changes and etc we got?

Said it before and I'll say it again, do what's best for him. You don't play this sport, or probably any, to be in his position.

After winning, do you think Haden stays up at night, thinking about Cleveland? Hell no, I bet zero seconds pass by when he misses this setting and this organization.

He would care because he would feel cheated and disrespected. He is a sentimental person and is very attached to the city of Cleveland and the Browns. He TRULY doesn't want to play anywhere else if it's his choice.

I played on many sports teams myself just not at the pro levels. I played LT and LG in football. I understand how he feels and I believe him when He says he doesn't want to play for any other team. I completely understand what he means when he says winning a championship with a different team would feel hollow and empty.

There is no doubt Joe wants to win. Heck, every player wants to win.

He's old school though, in the sense that he doesn't want/NEED the glitz and glamour.

Too many good things to say about him. And loyal is one of them. A cool story is how he was invited to the draft and basically said "Thanks, but no thanks. I'll be out fishing."

Oh Boy somebody is getting to many meds. LOL Just joking Tab, but I just don't see Luck and his agent sitting across the negotiation table ever in Cleveland. Just my first initial gut feeling, but who knows?

While this is true, there was a little more to it than that. He stated that he knew once he was drafted, there would be a lot less time to relax. He wanted to go fishing with his dad before he no longer had the time to do it for a long while. He put family above the fame of draft day. What's not to love about that?

He has most certainly done everything as a player and a person to earn my respect.

Call me crazy but I think the Browns will beat the Detroit Lions. The Lions offense is struggling.

The Browns couldn’t beat the Nittany Lions and I’m beginning to believe the Chicago Cubs would get the best of the point spread.

Lions are having trouble scoring TDs. Lions are known for losing to teams they should beat.

I need details of the item(s) you're smoking. Details... many of them.

lol

We did the impossible!

The good news is that we can make the playoffs much like the Rams did this year if we:
1. Fire Hue, hopefully Dorsey is not stupid enough to keep this clown!
2. Pick Barkley, will make all the difference in the world.
3. Take Baker Mayfield at 3 or 4 for a Drew Brees type star. Will make the offense great again!
4. Make great picks in the draft and it is on...
5. Hire Matt Lafleur OC Rams or Matt Nagy OC KC.. For head coach...Go Browns!!