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Rishuz #1341372 10/26/17 07:32 PM
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I like what we did this off-season and think we have a better chance at winning it all than we did before the moves.

I think keeping Kyrie would have been ignorant. The guy openly asked for a trade and didn't refute a damn thing about his issues w/LeBron.

He had to go. Glad he did.

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I like the changes also. Kyrie has mad skills, but he is such a selfish player. It might take our team some time to gel and get things right. But we have hella lot more depth and stronger overall.


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Very astute points, Eve. thumbsup

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lebron is a below average FT shooter, and def. not clutch at the line..




The 25 second mark says, "hi". You can't get much more clutch than that at the line.

If he had missed that FT, GS probably hits a three and wins in OT. I'm a huge fan of "The Block" and everyone likes Kyrie's shot and Kevin's D-up on Curry, but that free throw is super underrated. It's probably the last Cleveland induced factor in winning a ring.


Sorry but hitting a ft with a 3 point lead isn’t clutch, hitting them when you’re down two with no time to get another possession is clutch


Yeah, that's gonna be a no for me dog. That was game 7 of the NBA finals. He misses both, that opens up options for Golden State. Putting the team up 4 put GSW in a situation they were not really used to, especially in the playoffs.

You're talking about free throws in the month of October.

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lebron is a below average FT shooter, and def. not clutch at the line..




The 25 second mark says, "hi". You can't get much more clutch than that at the line.

If he had missed that FT, GS probably hits a three and wins in OT. I'm a huge fan of "The Block" and everyone likes Kyrie's shot and Kevin's D-up on Curry, but that free throw is super underrated. It's probably the last Cleveland induced factor in winning a ring.


Sorry but hitting a ft with a 3 point lead isn’t clutch, hitting them when you’re down two with no time to get another possession is clutch


Yeah, that's gonna be a no for me dog. That was game 7 of the NBA finals. He misses both, that opens up options for Golden State. Putting the team up 4 put GSW in a situation they were not really used to, especially in the playoffs.

You're talking about free throws in the month of October.


still not the same as making FT when you're down..sorry, don't care what you think. with 10.9 seconds left and up 3, the worst thing that happens is they tie. Needing FT's when you're down with no possession left is much more important then when up a possession with no time. Not disputing they were big FT's, but even if he misses both, they are still leading and GS still needed a 3 to even Tie. I'm saying historically lebron is a below average FT shooter. I feel alot more comfortable with lebron trying to score on a last possession to win it than him hitting his FT


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The more the season goes along, I think no way NOLA parts with Boogie, They'll ship AD before Boogie, Boogie is probably the best big in the NBA by quite a bit. When he's focused, dude is the most untouchable guy in the league. I mean last night, 41 points and 23 rebounds to go with 6 assists, when the kings were trying to do everything to not let that happen. A guy like this on this team I'd almost call for a sweep in the playoffs including the finals, i mean can you imagine what he'd do with Pachulia on him?


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Lead is right, Lebron is a "below average" free throw shooter.

In the last 7 years, he's hitting at a 73.6% clip. The league average over those same 7 years is 75.8%. 2.2% is 2.2% and it's lower. Coincidentally enough, Lebron mentioned last night one of his goals before retiring is to be above 80% on a season from the line.

I would still argue hitting any free down 3, 2, 1, even or up 1, 2, 3 with the game near finished are the same scenarios. Meaning, the team needs you to hit and they are all "clutch" moments. While you can argue already being up 3 and trying to make it 4 isn't a "need", it's more of a "want". However, if you want to guarantee the win when there is one possession left for the opposing team, making it a 2-possession game is a "need".

To me, clinching Game 7 on the road, against a 73-win team, minutes after getting thrown to the floor with a hard foul, having the Cleveland sports curse on your shoulders AND you're Lebron James...hitting that free throw was f'n CLUTCH.


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It was extremely clutch. Everything on the line.

We know Lebron is a bad free throw shooter. He just is. He has few weaknesses in his game and that's been one of them.

It's not a matter of being clutch, it's just a part of the game he's not great at.

And yes, splitting that free throw after falling on your hand, to put your team up 4 in the biggest game in the history of a team, city, and your own personal career was clutch. Sorry, it just is. But yeah, free throws in October, LOL. Cool story.

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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
Lead is right, Lebron is a "below average" free throw shooter.

In the last 7 years, he's hitting at a 73.6% clip. The league average over those same 7 years is 75.8%. 2.2% is 2.2% and it's lower. Coincidentally enough, Lebron mentioned last night one of his goals before retiring is to be above 80% on a season from the line.

I would still argue hitting any free down 3, 2, 1, even or up 1, 2, 3 with the game near finished are the same scenarios. Meaning, the team needs you to hit and they are all "clutch" moments. While you can argue already being up 3 and trying to make it 4 isn't a "need", it's more of a "want". However, if you want to guarantee the win when there is one possession left for the opposing team, making it a 2-possession game is a "need".

To me, clinching Game 7 on the road, against a 73-win team, minutes after getting thrown to the floor with a hard foul, having the Cleveland sports curse on your shoulders AND you're Lebron James...hitting that free throw was f'n CLUTCH.


You kinda proved what i was saying and I see what youre saying at the same time..Yeah he hit that FT to put us up 4, but he still missed the first one, so if we are playing ifs and buts, assume we were only up 2, that missed FT just became much more important. All I'm saying is when it comes to lebron, I rather take my chances on him taking a jump shot than depending on him hitting his FT, guys like Klove/Kyrie, I'd feel better with them at the FT line than trying to take a contested shot. To be fair, I'd rather have Kyrie finishing any way he wanted, dude is ice, a punk ass female dog, but no denying he is clutch.


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http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/10/cavaliers_new_old_lineup_a_thr.html#incart_big-photo

Looks like Lue got my emails. TT back at center (golf clap) bigger story is love back at the 4, and the reasons are almost verbatim why I thought he should be put back..he's just not built for the 5 and i think he would have ended up injured quite a bit this year. I actually applaud Lue for not being content and constantly tweaking...this early there is no reason not to. Going to be a tough game, Boogie might put 40+ on TT though. We are going to have to make these guys play defense, if the Kings would have kept doing what they were doing in first quarter they probably could have upset them. But they stopped moving the ball


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
The more the season goes along, I think no way NOLA parts with Boogie, They'll ship AD before Boogie, Boogie is probably the best big in the NBA by quite a bit. When he's focused, dude is the most untouchable guy in the league. I mean last night, 41 points and 23 rebounds to go with 6 assists, when the kings were trying to do everything to not let that happen. A guy like this on this team I'd almost call for a sweep in the playoffs including the finals, i mean can you imagine what he'd do with Pachulia on him?


Altman should have flipped the pick as soon as he got it.

Give up the pick and anyone not named LBJ, Love, or Thomas. A core of LBJ, Love, Thomas, and Cousins could win the next 3 championships. LBJ would certainly stay as well.


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Don't look now but Orlando is legit


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And Wizards are soft as Charmin.


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And Wizards are soft as Charmin.


I could be wrong, but squeezing Charmin might be as punishable by law as removing that tag off your cushions and pillows.


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And Wizards are soft as Charmin.


We can’t call anyone charmin. We might be the softest team in the NBA


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Cavs down big again to the dregs of the league missing their best player.


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Cavs down big again to the dregs of the league missing their best player.


Lue=mike Brown


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And Wizards are soft as Charmin.


We can’t call anyone charmin. We might be the softest team in the NBA


I agree.

When are these guys going to take pride in their D?

What the hell is going on?


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Love has been the biggest disappointment this year, He simply can’t elevate his game to be the second option


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I think its the D. 60+ points in the first half to the Pelicans. I thought with the Kyrie trade we were supposed to be better defensively.

It's the same story every game. Cavs go down double digits early.


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I don’t see any reason Osman or Zizic don’t get minutes. Heaven forbid we play someone younger than 75 years okd


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There's no point playing zizic. Cavs are getting killed every night because they don't defend the 3. It's really that simple.

They are an awful team at the moment.

I hope Altman is still patting himself on the back.


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We don’t defend the paint either, they have doubled us up points in paint


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There's no point playing zizic. Cavs are getting killed every night because they don't defend the 3. It's really that simple.

They are an awful team at the moment.

I hope Altman is still patting himself on the back.


Yeah I know it’s a young season, but this team looks more like the dregs than a contender, we have no pg, 2 or 5 Lue has horrible game plans and has no idea how to coach defense. Constantly wants to switch everything and then we get destroyed by the pnr


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Lol
Man just like that.

Guess the old guys need a half to get their knees warmed up.


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That happens to old guys. thumbsup

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We should’ve kept Blatt.


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We just can't play from behind anymore... which sucks, because we're always playing from behind early.

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Lue just isn’t a good coach, he has no idea how to game plan or adjust. His offense sucks as does his defense. He’s not going deep enough in his bench, you can’t tell me Osman and holland are worse than shumpert and JR. Our backcourt had 8 points tonight, Nola’s had 51 that’s just plain stupid. We can’t just show up anymore. Right now I rank us about the 7/8 seed. Man we needed to get younger. I’m not sure what the answer is, but I have no doubt this would be a better team with a guy like blatt


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Quote:
I rank us about the 7/8 seed.


I am going to save that comment.

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Tristan Thompson literally provides nothing to the Cavs.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Tristan Thompson literally provides nothing to the Cavs.


Don’t let Vers hear you, if it wasn’t for him we don’t win the championship. I’ve never like TT, he’s just a guy who doesn’t work on his game. His ceiling was 3 years ago. I’d move him if there was someone dumb enough to take that contract


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Getting stomped against another lottery team. Getting old fast


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Love has been complete trash. Missed like 5 wide open shots. Cavs don't get back and again play no D. Kristaps is going to get his. He's basically unguardable. But it's becoming commonplace for guys like Hardaway, Jr. to destroy the Cavs.

Yeah, it doesn't look like TT ever works on his game. If he can't get rebounds, he's worthless.


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Love has been complete trash. Missed like 5 wide open shots. Cavs don't get back and again play no D. Kristaps is going to get his. He's basically unguardable. But it's becoming commonplace for guys like Hardaway, Jr. to destroy the Cavs.

Yeah, it doesn't look like TT ever works on his game. If he can't get rebounds, he's worthless.


Yeah love just can’t be your consistent second option, he’s not efficient and he can be knocked off his Game easily. As a third option he’s ok, prob is we traded our second option for some role players and a guy who won’t play half the season just because his dad hates lebron


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What's the story behind his dad hates LeBron?


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I don't see a video of the high five?

I haven't heard the greatest things about Kyrie's father. I remember reading a couple articles a few years back that quoted a couple of other NBA players from the 80/90's saying something to the effect of " He could have been good in the NBA if he would accept a role as a team player." and " Because he always wanted to be "the guy" he was forced to play overseas.

I suppose the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.


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62 points in the first half to the Knicks.

The Cavs look like they have no idea what they are doing on D or O for that matter.


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