DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Martavis Bryant requested Trade

I agree, the front office actually has done a really nice job in gauging the value of players, so they'd be able to pinpoint it better than I.

Personally, I'd offer him around 4 years, $28M. That's an overpay, but Coleman has two years plus an option left, and the rookie we'll draft will have four years. Although that's overpaying for Pryor, that's a really cheap room.

As for winning more, I can't say for sure. Pryor was a fantastic red zone threat and he's a much better threat than what we're marching out there. He would have absolutely helped, but I don't know how much exactly. We've lost four of seven games by three points, and we had scoring opportunities in all of them. Who knows what good it could have done. Personally, I don't feel Pryor was ever a distraction. Not the way Britt is. He was frustrated and at times got riled up, but everyone could see it was coming from a good place, the kid just wanted to win - but they all do.

4 years and $28 million would be a bit of no brainer to me. It's way less than he was offered last year. I don't know if his ego would accept that, but I know I would. As a #2 WR on the team I think he'd be a valuable tool in Hue's offense

Pryor took to Instagram to post an apology to fans for his performance, which he has since deleted because he got so much hate on it from Washington fans.

"I owe to the fans and teammates a sorry for being inconsistent with a lot of stress I brought onto myself for the loss of focus.. not personal life but at work reasons. Ready to be the beast I know I am. Looking forward to Sunday. I’m use to the rock in my hand early n often. I have great teammates and understand it’s not realistic with the great talent we have. That’s something that’s tough and a ongoing battle in my own mind. And I’m ready to control that focus and get back to pinning my ears back and playing ferocious how I know how! I’m ready."

I think that's why he'd take the deal. Dude misses Cleveland where he knows he's going to get targets, and was thriving in Hue Jackson's offense where he almost made it to the Pro-Bowl with a quarterback rotation that never could take advantage of his talents.

I'm not shocked it's been hard to go to a team where the quarterback throws most of his passes between RB/TE, and likes to spread the rest pretty evenly between wide receivers. It's a completely different environment that some receivers just can't handle. There is a reason that the top receivers avoided Washington in free agency.

I put his value at around a Travis Benjmain-esque deal. He's not the guy, but someone who can certainly compliment your offense.

Hmmm...........who is trolling whom?

Are you saying I can't post positive articles about Hue?

Btw------I could care less who is sick of my posts. I call out those who I think are full of crap, and you are one of them along w/the guy who liked your ridiculous post.

Here is what I think. Guys like you have defended the FO's plan w/vigor. When the losses piled up, you needed a fall guy. Last year it was Horton. This year it's Hue.

I predicted both!

I think that guys like you are detrimental to the success of the Browns. You can call me all the names you want. I don't care. I don't like you or the other biased posters.

I want the Browns to win and I don't think anyone should be fired. I have noticed that your little mob ignores my posts when I get on posters who criticize the FO. You are biased and while you have numbers on your side, I have the truth on mine.

Let's get it on!

Vers, are you okay?

You can post what ever you like.

I prefer you don't continue to lie about what I say.

I prefer you don't pretend or assume what I like or don't like.

I've criticized the FO and I have criticized Hue. I prefer both to stay in place for next year. Don't try and put words in my mouth that I never said.

And since you can't say anything nice about my posts - and the board is worse for seeing people bicker - just stop commenting on my posts..... Simple. But if you continue to lie and act in a troll like way I'll continue to call you on it.

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Not lying about a damn thing. I see through your game.

Complete and total FABRICATION. Thanks

Just thinking about the last couple of posts....


A lot of posters get extremely upset if anyone even questions the moves of the FO. They rant and rave and make fun of people who dare questions the FO.

Then, those same people turn around and bash Hue. They stay stuff like his criticism is deserved and they are just commenting on what they see.

Let's cut the crap, here. I think those posters are full of crap! I think they backed "the plan" by the FO and can't admit that there might be some issues w/that said plan and are placing the blame on Hue, and anyone who defends him. You know, the same guys who bashed me for questioning Hue when he was hired. LOL

I call BS!

Oh, and to save time...........I could care less if you like me or not. Because I don't like that crowd either.

You forgot to add............"in my opinion."

Look man, you are backing the wrong crowd.

Yeah, don't pinch him because that was definitely a dream. Meathead isn't getting reinstated and even if he could keep it together long enough to do so he hasn't played football in years. Hell, he doesn't even know the offense. Meathead has about the same chance of making it back as Justin Blackmon.

I would love to add talent to this offense. We need more talent at WR. But I don't think we need another meathead. One is quite sufficient thank you very much.

ssshhhh I am still dreaming so throw recovered and healthy Blackmon on the team as well

I tried to start a new thread on it rather than chew in to the Bryant thread, but I think I messed it up, so I'll just put it here.

Browns are apparently in heavy trade discussions for T.Y Hilton, from sources such as PFT. Hilton has recorded over 1,000 yards in every season since 2013, is a 3x Pro-Bowler, and would be an excellent compliment to Deshone Kizer: He's a very similar player to Will Fuller, who thrived with Kizer at Notre Dame and is a young star in Houston with Watson.

Rumors suggest the Colts want the Browns 2nd round selection originally from Houston. Hilton has 3.5 years left on a 5 year, $65M contract.

I'd make that deal, to be honest.

Hilton can bring a skillset that the Browns current WR really lack
The ability to stop start make tacklers miss gets YAC
Take 8 yd slant into a 50.yd TD
Hilton has great deep speed much like Mike Wallace
The Browns WR are really a joke collectively yet excuses are still made for them

You might need a link? That is probably why the other one was deleted.

I'd do that trade but I don't understand why Indy would unless they think Luck is done.

I see why it got taken down: The PFT link is simply that the Colts have Hilton on the trading block, and that talks have "intensified" but it does not name the Browns, or any team, specifically. It's other sources who are applying the Browns name to the trade discussions. False attribution; I need to stop trusting other journalists.

After doing my digging, I can see why the reports were vague; The attachment to the Browns, and the price, is coming from a semi-viral tweet from a Browns podcaster who claims to have insider sources. I don't know one way or the other, but I wouldn't consider "The Orange is oranger podcast" to be a valid source.

Funny, too, as I'm a journalism student at university, and just today got back a 96 grade on a media law and ethics unit.

Apologies, everyone, this might be busted. I have no doubts the Browns would inquire, but people make it sound bigger than it is.

Here are the original sources that the story is stemming from.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/29/talk-of-a-possible-t-y-hilton-trade-intensifies/
https://twitter.com/JeremyinAkron/status/924793842871734272

It's okay. I think your intentions were good. I was just speculating on why I thought the original thread got deleted. I was responding to that post and it said I did not "have permission to post in that forum." So, I knew they deleted it.

You haven't posted here much. It's the best Brown's board. Just provide links. You are smart. You'll learn quick.

Interestingly enough, D'Qwell Jackson appeared on television this week saying he thinks Luck's career might be over.

He was asked if we'll see Luck again and said, "I don't think we are. If you take a step back, if you look at it, most the guys injured around the league, if they've been out eight, nine, ten months, you're talking about career ending injuries."

Just today, it was reported by a "league source" that Luck is "Not close" to returning to practice. Apparently, he's got severe shoulder soreness even during throwing rehab.

The T.Y Hilton rumors have also started after he publicly called out his offensive line for allowing 10 sacks against Jacksonville: His comments were accurate and not over the top, but he still apologized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5sLaf5fuT8

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nf...tice/811869001/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/t-y-h...ine-after-loss/

It would be a damn shame if Luck is done. The idiots running the Colts ruined his career because they didn't protect him. Two of those dudes are now working for us.

Come on. Sheesh.

Never mind. Keep on w/your crusade.

To be fair, I remember we threw two slant passes against the Vikings and both dropped on what would have been third down conversions.

Both were to Louis, who is our only receiver who has much ability to run an effective slant. Slants require explosive, sure handed receivers, half of which fits the description of Louis. Much like all West Coast concepts, they're also timing routes that require excellent chemistry, so we're already behind on that front.

Acquiring a guy like T.Y Hilton would be great for slants, but to be honest, that's an odd complaint. We've got far biggest issues than not running slant routes enough.

As for Kizer overthrowing, missed deep opportunities are pretty standard under these circumstances:

1. Young quarterbacks are told to miss long. Don't underthrow it, that's when picks occur. Kizer is already under the gun for throwing too many interceptions, so I don't blame him for leading guys too far.

2. It takes confidence to throw downfield. We don't have anyone who inspires confidence. I look at Watson in Houston throwing to Hopkins and Fuller; they're either wide open or they make an incredible catch. I'd guess that around 80% of the time, our guys either have little separation or they ultimately drop it. Get Kizer (Or any young QB) a high end receiver, and watch him feel confident taking shots.

3. With Coleman injured, we don't have an elite burner. Nobody with precision deep routes on moves or even that extra gear to really challenge coverages.

4. This isn't all on our receivers, Kizer gets some blame, too. He's got a cannon, we have a young QB who is trying not to hold the ball and is finding his feet in terms of understanding what "open" means in the NFL. There are a few shots he could have put up and gave the receiver a chance, but he's been a little guarded. It isn't ideal, but it's pretty standard with a young quarterback.

I don't think you're necessarily wrong. If you're talking about finding our receivers on quick strikes, that's something we need to do better. We also need to do a better job of opening deep passes and hitting chunk plays. But I think, most importantly, we have some factors that are preventing us from achieving desired results. A young quarterback, receiver issues and some offensive limitations that Hue needs to work on all play their role.

Martavis Bryant - WR - Steelers

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was noncommittal on Martavis Bryant's role moving forward.
Bryant was inactive against the Lions Sunday night, a game which saw JuJu Smith-Schuster explode for 193 yards and a touchdown, and his coach does not seem to be in a rush to get him back in the lineup. Asked if he was confident Bryant would contribute down the stretch, Tomlin said, "I'm not. We'll see." Bryant is worth stashing to see if the Steelers make a move before Tuesday's trade deadline, but his fantasy future in Pittsburgh looks bleak.

Source: Aditi Kinkhabwala on TwitterOct 30 - 10:18 AM

When is the trade deadline? Sounds like if it were us, we'd have cut Bryant awhile ago. Then again with Britt, maybe we wouldn't have haha.

EDIT

Tuesday at 4pm is the deadline.

Sorry, I am not sure what you are asking. Will you please rephrase it?

Adam Schefter is reporting the Browns are making trade inquiries for, "a deep-ball threat who can spread the field for the offense, as well as help for the running game, which has struggled all season." (ESPN link below).

My two cents...

I'll bet the Browns are looking heavily at Jeremy Hill from the Bengals. He thrived with Hue Jackson, and is a free agent next year who is unlikely to re-sign with them due to his reduced playing role behind Gio Bernard and Joe Mixon.

On the WR front, both T.Y Hilton and Martavis Bryant fit the description. We've already talked about that, but there is something else to consider:

I know people are sick of it, but Josh Gordon has been posting work-out pictures. One of his most recent pictures had the caption, "Come soon." That phrase is currently popular as one of the beginning lines from a viral song called "Man's not hot" by a British comedian named Michael Dapaah, who plays the character of a rapper called Big Shaq. Eight hours ago, Josh posted a workout video. He's already looking in much better shape than he was a few weeks ago. He's got two weeks until our next game. Don't be shocked if it happens. He went through rehab, he released a very open and honest mini-documentary through Uninterrupted and he is eligible to reapply.

http://www.espn.com.au/nfl/story/_/id/21201983/cleveland-browns-shopping-weapons-offense

Gordon Instagram: @flash

Has Gordon even applied for reinstatement?

excellent question. maybe he's gonna wait til the offseason to have a full training camp and such? i dunno thats all i can think of why he hasn't applied yet.

So, as far as we know, he hasn't applied?

Can't it take weeks, or more, even after applying?

I don't see Gordon playing this year. I've been wrong before though.

i don't see it either bro

Who's that "one receiver"?

Throwing or receiving?