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Nothingburger. for 2 reasons....

1. do you remember, it doesn't matter if you commit a crime as long as you don't knowingly commit a crime - we learned that with Comey testimony on HRC emails.

2. I have seen way to many pictures out of context in my day. Do you know many people they meet with a day? Who is to say that guy said a word at that table. How do you know that meeting was 20 seconds long? etc etc. Not enough information yet to make any type of ASSumptions.

i havent seen this dude take responsibility for anything yet. blamed the generals for military personnel deaths, blamed congress for the multiple failures of healthcare, blaming others for his craptastic vetting process.

Don't be surprised if he tosses Jr under the bus, as well:

Donald Trump 'turning on Jared Kushner' as Russia probe intensifies

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-turning-jared-124101896.html

Donald Trump is reportedly turning on White House adviser Jared Kushner as the prospect of his impeachment becomes a real possibility, it has been claimed.

The US President is reported to be blaming his son-in-law for certain decisions that led to Robert Mueller being appointed to investigate claims of Russian collusion in the 2016 election campaign.

Specifically, he questioned his role in the firings of Michael Flynn and James Comey, sources told Vanity Fair.

Former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg told the publication Mr Kushner was the "worst political adviser in the White House in modern history", claiming: "I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress."

It comes just days after Mr Mueller issued indictments for two of Mr Trump's former campaign staffers, reportedly causing mass panic among Mr Trump's inner circle.

"The walls are closing in," one senior Republican close to the White House told the New York Post. "Everyone is freaking out."

The indictments included charges against Mr Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and former adviser George Papadopoulos.

Mr Nunberg said: "Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization.

"Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s f*****."

Mr Trump continued to dismiss the indictments as “fake news” after their release, and attempted to shift the focus to Hillary Clinton’s dealings with Russia.

However, a majority of voters said in a recent opinion poll they did not believe the Russia story was fake, and supported Mr Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign.

Trump will throw everybody under the bus just like Nixon did. Nobody is immune. A little bit of history repeating.

You Wishsandwich.

that was good ill admit.

Is that sound I hear the Presidency crumbling beneath Donnie's feet? Somebody should tell him to hold on but his little hands can't support his body weight. Mueller is going to take a bunch if not all of them down I think. Wish I didn't have this I told you so 40 feeling but it's just overwhelming.

the kush god or sessions might be next.

Sessions is hit. Kushner won't go down until they have a case on Trump, then he'll be next.

true, but it depends.

Kush god still had his connections with Jr and Flynn, and i have to wonder if Flynn and sessions are next on the chopping block.

i agree that kushner might be further down the line, but who knows? he also lied about his contacts and disclosure forms. so we will see.

Trump trying to throw him under the bus says a lot about how closely tied kushner is to all of this, *potentially* of course.

I said it on 11/9/16:

"It's not a matter of 'if'... it's a matter of 'when' and 'how'."




tick, tick, tick...

EXECUTIVE BRANCH CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES BY PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION

YRS CRIME INDICT SENTENCES
BARACK OBAMA 8 0 0 0
GEORGE W. BUSH 8 16 16 9
BILL CLINTON 8 2 1 1
GEORGE H. W. BUSH 4 1 1 1
RONALD REAGAN 8 26 16 8
JIMMY CARTER 4 1 0 0
GERALD FORD 2.4 1 1 1
RICHARD NIXON 5.6 76 55 15

Does that include non taxpayers in the admins?

mmm?

:fingerscrossed Sessions please

Not because I like Kush, it's just because I don't like Sessions.

And there it is. You would rather they did something then they didn't.

you see, as AMERICANS we should ALL rather should hope nothing inappropriate happened. However the left would rather the entire system be flipped upside down and country ruined than be wrong. Sad day in America - and you say the right wants to divide the country, you just implicitly proved its YOU.

you probably missed a lot of the prior convo's, but GM and i have a very strong dislike of Sessions.

we would be perfectly fine if Sessions went down and that was the end of it, as in he went off the reservation all on his own with colluding with Russians, and Trump was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Sessions is a scumbag so any reason to remove him is welcomed.

I get you don't like him swish, actually, im not really a fan of sessions myself. (nothing to with is views, his personality just rubs me the wrong way).

But I think hoping he did something illegal that hurt our country as a whole to the effect that it would drastically impair it for a long time, is at best - well, to put it nicely, disgusting.

On the flip side, the uranium thing, I honestly hope that it was legal and on the up and up. I don't think it was, but I actually HOPE it was. I do not want to see what I think, because I believe that hurts US, the people, more than it will hurt that individual.

I cannot agree with you on that about Sessions/Trump etc. If they did something wrong, they should go down for it. But as an American, I don't want that to be the case.

that's fine but Sessions has the ability to do more damage to americans on a daily basis than anything Trump can do.

i dislike him with a passion and however he is removed is fair game to me.

Wait are you calling me a liberal? Leftest? Left leaning? or anything near that LOL

left and never trumpers. does it really matter, the point is you would rather the entire country fail to be right about trump, than to be wrong and nothing happened.

so GM, who is conservative and voted for Trump, wants trump to fail?

more so in general. trump sessions Kushner the boogie man. its not about them failing. presidents and administrations fail. on both sides. failures have happened with every president and admin we have had. there has not been a perfect admin. were talking about corruption of an office and departments that uphold our society. I am sorry, anyone that would want to see that destroyed over a personal feeling of dislike for someone, that is the issue.

So sessions supporting private prisons isn't the issue.
Sessions wanting to continue civil forfeiture laws isn't the issue
Sessions wanting to restart the war on drugs, specifically weed, including the states that have legalized it isn't the issue.

nah, me and GM wanting him gone because of those issues is the problem, according to you.

his ass can go and i dont care how it happens. this isn't feelings, those are FACTS.

he had no business in the position in the first place, like so many others put in by Trump.

Sessions is already corrupt. so i don't see what the problem is with our views.

You get all that from me saying I would rather see sessions go down than Kush

Do you remember this guy

again, I said there is a lot I don't like about sessions - he rubs me the wrong way personality wise, and I disagree with a lot of his stances actually (you would be surprised). I am perfectly fine with him being replaced, no argument here on that. But to me, at the expense of hurting every single American and the way of life as we know it, no so much. JMO.

Dude, I have never seen anyone place labels on people faster than willit. I was considered to be a Liberal or Democrat after one post at one point.

I am more like a slalom skier



He's right, no left, nope right, nope left

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well, you know.

So that means trump colluded with the Russians? We finally got 40 to admit it!

Trump rails against own Justice Department for not going after 'Crooked Hillary'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rails-justice-department-not-going-crooked-hillary-132639458.html

Lol, dude is panicking hard. What about what about what about.

And he sounds like a damn dictator.

Don't be so sure. I may walk like a duck, and my backside may quack like a duck, hell I even have webbed toes. BUT I look more like a Hairy Pillsbury Dough Boy

He did learn from one of the best.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2017/11/03/when-trump-meets-putin-a-preview/

Senate Democrats demand that Sessions testify again on Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-democrats-demand-sessions-testify-again-russia-005854505.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats on Thursday demanded that Attorney General Jeff Sessions be recalled to testify on the Trump campaign's Russia contacts after the disclosure of an effort to set up a meeting between then-Republican candidate Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Judiciary Committee Democrats want to question Sessions, who was the Trump campaign's chief foreign policy adviser, about his denials that he knew anything about contacts between the campaign and Russians or Russian government intermediaries.

Sessions "needs to come back before the committee, in person, under oath, to explain why he cannot seem to provide truthful, complete answers," Senator Patrick Leahy, the panel's senior Democrat, said in a statement.

Two other Democrats supported Leahy's call

"Attorney General Sessions should come back before Congress and answer questions in light of recent revelations," said Senator Ron Wyden.

In an eight-page letter to Sessions on Thursday, Senator Al Franken recalled that the attorney general said at an Oct. 18 Judiciary Committee hearing that a continuing exchange between the Trump campaign and Russian government intermediaries "did not happen, at least not to my knowledge and not with me."

Sessions, Franken wrote, "apparently failed to tell the truth under oath."

According to court documents filed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller that were unsealed on Monday, George Papadopoulos, a minor Trump campaign adviser, said at a March 31, 2016, meeting of Trump foreign policy advisers "that he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between then-candidate Trump and President Putin."

A photograph posted on Trump's Instagram account shows Papadopoulos sitting two seats from Sessions at the meeting, which Trump also attended.

A New York Times report on Tuesday quoted a participant as saying that Sessions "shut George down," ruled there should be no meeting with Putin and ordered those present "not to speak about this again."

However, CNN reported on Thursday that John Cornyn, the second-ranking Senate Republican, who serves on the intelligence and judiciary committees, said that he had been unaware that Sessions was at the meeting.

"I certainly think it's a legitimate area of inquiry" for congressional investigators to pursue, Cornyn told CNN.

CNN also reported that Carter Page, another former Trump campaign adviser, told the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday that he had informed Sessions of an upcoming July 2016 trip to Russia. Page said the trip was unrelated to his work for the Trump campaign, CNN said.

Democratic sources who requested anonymity said Republican Chuck Grassley, the committee chairman, is resisting the Democrats' demands to recall Sessions. Instead, he is suggesting that the attorney general be allowed to submit updated written testimony, they said.

A spokesman for Grassley did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Justice Department declined to comment, and Trump denies any collusion. Russia has denied three U.S. intelligence agencies' conclusion in January that Moscow tried to help Trump defeat Democrat Hillary Clinton.

Let him go back up.

But they are basing this on a testimony of a guy who has already lied and plead guilty to lying. I highly doubt his testimony is going to stand up too well in the end. Its been proven George lied one way or another under oath, that makes his entire claim get thrown out the window. Which is sad, because if Sessions did knowingly lie, he should be dealt with. But any lawyer worth his salt will get his testimony thrown out.

Not unless it’s a clear case of a cover up.

At this point Sessions is not a credible person, at the VERY least.

Idk, I will say I have very limited knowledge of the actual law when it comes to that. But I have seen testimony thrown out before when it comes from a proven liar, which that papapapapapaodouss guy is, by his own admission. I could see it happening.

Supposedly now its Clovis who wanted Papadopoulos to set up the meeting. And I heard last night that both Sessions and Trump plainly heard Papadopoulos talking about Russia helping to get dirt on Clinton. Sessions has already testified that nobody from the campaign talked to Russia.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...couraged-russia


Sam Clovis, a controversial nominee for the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) under President Trump , was the campaign official who encouraged George Papadopoulos to set up a meeting with Russian officials, according to The Washington Post.

Clovis, who was then the campaign co-chairman, encouraged Papadopoulos to make the trip to Russia in order to take an “off the record” meeting with government officials there, the Post reported late Monday.






Papadopoulos was thrust into the spotlight on Monday when special counsel Robert Mueller unsealed court filings indicating that the former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his contacts with Russia-connected foreign nationals. Mueller is leading an investigation into the campaign's ties to Russia.

According to those documents, Papadopoulos corresponded with an unnamed individual — identified only as a “campaign supervisor” — in March regarding his contact with a foreign professor and a Russian woman about setting up a meeting between Russian officials and the campaign. The documents alleged that the intention of the meeting was to discuss U.S.-Russia relations under a prospective Trump administration. “Great work,” the supervisor is quoted as telling Papadopoulos.

Months later, the supervisor also told Papadopoulos to make a trip to Russia “if it is feasible” in order to take a meeting with Russian officials. The meeting in question never took place. Now, the Post is identifying the campaign supervisor as Clovis.

Clovis’s lawyer Victoria Toensing told the Post that Clovis “always vigorously opposed any Russian trip for Donald Trump

and/or the campaign” and described Clovis’s statements to Papadopoulos as him “being polite.”

Papadopoulos was arrested in July and entered into a plea agreement with the government in early October. The special counsel revealed on Monday that top Trump campaign officials Paul Manafort and Richard Gates have also been indicted on multiple charges associated with money laundering and their financial dealings overseas, to which they are pleading not guilty.

Clovis, who now serves as the White House liaison to USDA, is Trump’s choice to serve as the department’s chief scientist. He has been scrutinized by Democrats for his lack of credentials and is likely to face a difficult road to confirmation.

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders indicated Tuesday that the reports would not affect Clovis' status as a nominee for the top USDA post.

“I’m not aware that any chance would be necessary at this time," Sanders told reporters at the daily briefing.

Clovis is set to face a confirmation hearing before the Senate Agriculture Committee on Nov. 9.

Meanwhile, Senate Agriculture Chairman Pat Roberts

(R-Kan.) said Tuesday that Clovis is fully cooperating with the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into Russian interference, according to Politico.

Papapapapa wore a wire for a month. He got whatever there is to get.

On this me and Judge Nap agree.

and now the rest will CYA and sing like canaries