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Probably more likely that they couldn't reach the phone while hiding under their desks.

I don't want anymore transactions from this goofy regime. Fire everyone and then go from there!!!

Me Too

That's how I felt last year at this time but now I have relief because I know all these clowns are gone!!!Excited about getting real football folks and a coach that has a clue!!

I’d hate to be the Berea telegram operator right now. Stop.

More frantic than the Titanic's operator!

glad we didn't get AJ...rather get Rosen next year.

nah bro. Come to the lamar Jackson bandwagon. i already recruited cfrs

Rosen

Not sure how I feel about missing the deadline for A.J.. but someone in FO needs CANNED tonight. Jimmy cant take all the bad press over and over and over from these clowns. Its just tooooooooo much stupidity for the sake of continuity.

join us pastor, you won't be disappointed.

Mayfield

I know its not right but he reminds me of RGIII

lol stop.

i think lamar jackson is a way better passer than RG3.

i think he's more like Deshaun Watson, or ever better: a better version of Michael Vick.

I guess I need to watch a Louisville game or two ...

I think our fans are being played for absolute fools.

1. 48 hours ago, Ian Rapoport reports that the Browns won't be firing Hue Jackson, both now and at the end of the season. Specifically, Ian said, "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion. But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson."

Does that really sound like a situation that makes a coach desperate enough to force a trade?

2. A.J McCarron is off contract at the end of the year. He'll be a free agent and won't re-sign with the Bengals. Cleveland will undoubtedly be one of his preferred destinations: Reunite with Hue Jackson, good chance at being a starter, a lot of cap room for reasonable compensation.

Why would the 0-8 Browns give up such incredible draft value for a guy who can't save the season anyway and will not cost any draft picks next year?

3. This front office would never agree to give up a 2nd and 3rd. They hardly agreed to a 3rd for Collins. They would only part with a "2nd & change" for Jimmy Garappolo, per Ian Rapoport. Our team hates giving up picks, and has traded away from both Wentz and Watson to gain picks. This isn't a team that throws around draft selections of that value for a back-up quarterback who hasn't thrived when given the chance - heck, they wouldn't even do it for Jimmy G.

4. The Browns just became one of the leading teams for Kirk Cousins. The Browns can now offer him more money than any other team, including Washington, which is a huge first step. It isn't crazy. We've got the most money, a rock solid offensive line (That will be important looking at Luck, Wilson, etc) and a plethora of draft selections to build around him: Including likely the #1 pick that would almost certainly land an elite running back prospect. On top of that, our defense is rising quickly.

5. We're locked step for step for the #1 pick with San Francisco, and they don't need a QB. Nobody is giving up that high of value for selections for McCarron when we've got a shot at Cousins, already have Kizer and could very possibly be sitting on Darnold.

I don't doubt the Browns tried to trade for McCarron. I do, however, doubt that we tried to sell our entire future for him by giving up two of our most valuable draft assets.

Sounds much closer to a vested interest in seeing the fans and local media ramp up pressure on Haslam to fire everyone following reports the Browns were, for once, actually considering continuity.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...e-browns-record
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/925158382478286849

Cousins seems like our ONLY means for a legit option at QB, even if we pay way more than his production/worth amounts.

We'll probably forget to call his agent though.

Not sure you could pay him enough.

Better situations than this hole will present themselves.

"We're locked step for step for the #1 pick with San Francisco, and they don't need a QB."

And if we happen to win more than the 49ers it means they will trade the first overall pick to someone ELSE

If Hue was doing that, I'd fire him in the morning. He is trying to save his reputation at this point. A head coach who is 1-23 has to try to salvage something.

League source says in scramble, #Browns sent signed paperwork to #Bengals, but CIN sent paperwork with only its signature to NFL. No deal.

https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/status/925498965843480577

This doesn't seem as bad. Still bad, just not as bad.

For real though, how pissed would we all be if we gave up two and a three for McCarron when the 49ers got Garoppolo for a two.

Incompetence saved us. Our next front office and coaching staff are already indebted to Sashi Brown and company.

Try it, you’ll like it!

This is literally starting to look like watching the Keystone Cops try to catch a crook...

troubling no?

Sashi Brown needs to go, period. Trading that much for McCarron was foolish, then screwing it up was incredibly stupid.

Hue Jackson is not the problem with this team. We have a group of proven veteran coaches. Some considered some of the best in the business. The front office is killing this fanbase with idiotic moves.

Not trying to land a receiver before the deadline is a major mistake. Not keeping a vet like Osweiler or McCown was a mistake. Signing Kenny Britt was a mistake. Drafting four nobodies at WR was a mistake. Cutting Haden was a colossal mistake.

And this battered fanbase wants to fire a coach who has nothing to work with as far as playmakers.

HUE JACKSON IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!!

Do I believe the Bengals leaked exaggerated details of an incomplete trade to the media to create horribly negative PR for the Browns?

Uhm, yeah man, I really do.

Just a coincidence that our fan base is now calling for the firing of our head coach... I wonder who wanted him as their head coach and is now months away from firing the head coach whom they wanted Jackson so succeed...

It just doesn't make any sense. The cost, the timing, the player. None of it. It's completely illogical.

A 2nd and 3rd is the entire future. You don't surrender that kind of value for a guy you plan on keeping for only 8 weeks before aggressively targeting other options. You make that deal, you're building around him.

J/C

Mary Kay reporting the Bengals screwed up the paperwork, not the Browns. I'd rather have the 2 and 3 than McCarron. Wish we would have offered that for Garoppolo.

I believe, and will believe it if it is proven, that if Hue is going behind the scenes to reporters, as some claim, to hurt the Browns, he should be fired in the morning. No questions asked.

In house, say what you want. Go outside, you're done in the harshest of ways.

Sorry, that's the way I roll.

Thank you CIN. McCarron has never ever impressed me. Maybe if the trade was cheap to acquire, but I doubt it.

I don't know whether to ...



or...

Let the finger pointing begin. The Browns are in damage control mode.

On a side, their own incompetence saved them from making a bad, panicked move.

On a day that the Browns didn't make a single trade, they are one of the lead stories around the NFL for all the wrong reasons. Take a bow Cleveland Browns.

Perhaps Im way off base, but in one of the articles it almost seemed as we would be swapping draft spots with Cincy in rounds 2 and 3...If we really offered selections in both round 2 and 3...What a mess anymore, and this organization is a shame to anyone...specially us fans.

All we can do is laugh.

This would actually make a much more sense. I hope this is true.

There is so much mis- and dis-information out there now, we don't know what is accurate or not. Let the smoke clear and then hopefully the true picture may emerge...