DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum What kind of qb does Hue want in his system?

Hue Jackson since becoming HC has had a assorted variety
Of qbs running the offense and in his other roles before taking over as HC.
So do we know for sure what kind he covets ?
He's had qbs with big down field arms Flacco and Palmer
He's had qbs with no arm strength Kessler
He's had qbs with quick releases Dalton
And he's had inaccurate qbs Kizer and Campbell
And he's had qbs that just plain suck as RG3.

I don't anyone knows what kind of qb he wants for this offense cause he's kicked the tires so many as the Browns HC
And I will add we don't even know what kind of offense
Hue envisions
Hes had some success with different qbs
I just don't think we can say at this moment this guy is a fit etc etc
I only know be wants a qb that consistantly create scoring drives

I'm not convinced Hue knows that himself...

Would not trust him with that decision !

This Kind.

He wants Kessler's accuracy with Kizer's physical skills, Hogan's brains, and (early) RGIII's mobility.

I don't pretend to know what type except that he must be a winner. Haven't heard the term "quarterback whisperer" used much lately...

That’s because when it’s used it’s only in a whisper.

Hue wants AQB that has all the physical tools as well as the smarts. Just like every other coach.

I don't know what Hue Jackson wants in a QB, but I think he'll have one he's familiar with when he's the offensive coordinator of the Bengals next year.

Yep.

I thought he already was.

Quite a list. Quite a long list. Not sure he could tell us in three sentences.

I have not liked what we bought into at QB.

I am REALLY certain that I do not need the "magic beans" 'Trust me' from him again. Because I have, I no longer can. Because he seemed to avoid throwing players, especially QBs, under the bus, I thought it was classy. Now it is just some snake oil Kool-aid. Apparently we are to take the hook firmly.

We should have a much better QB by now. The FO promises of Brighter Tomorrows is not trustworthy either.

How about a 6'5" 235 lb intelligent, strong armed, athletic QB with great leadership skills who comes from a winning program in a pro-style offense. Oh wait, we passed on Carson Wentz - that's right.

Hindsight is easy. Goff was the guy hue wanted, so we were told. Who really flipping knows?

If it’s multiple choice I want Dan Marino. With today’s rules his knees would last a lot longer than they did.

Hindsight. How about foresight. Mr. Jackson had every opportunity to evaluate and ensure the FO selected Wentz rather than trade back. I guarantee you if Hue Jackson said Wentz is the man, they would have stayed at 2 and drafted Wentz, but no. Mr. QB Wisperer loved the God Awful RG III who moved the Earth for him in his 1 hour evaluation. Yes, he wanted Goff, but the Rams jumped us and Wentz was available and he said no, otherwise, IMHO, he would have been a Brown.

That is what people don't seem to remember. Hue had a huge say on who we got as QB. RGIII was Hue. Wanting Geoff and not Wentz was Hue. Kessler, Hue.

I am not saying the FO is clean in this deal, but there is a lot of dirt to spread to all corners.

The key isn't who we passed on, the key is who we select next.

OK I am going to go WWWAAAAYYYYYYY out on a limb here and say *scratching my head* A good one?

Prove that.

LOL..........probably a good guess.

I really don't know what kind of QB Hue wants. We have heard rumors about like Goff and Garoppolo. We heard he liked RGIII, but Sashi said that he thought that RGIII could be the long-term answer in Cleveland. We heard he didn't like Wentz as much as Goff, but Depo said that he didn't consider Wentz a top 20 type QB.

I think a lot of people are twisting what we have heard to fit their agenda and either exonerate Hue from the qb decisions or to exonerate the FO.

I wish I knew what was actually said when all of these guys discussed the QBs, but I don't know..........and neither do all the others who are making such strong claims on this board.

Baker Mayfield is listed at 6' 1". This is does not meet Hue's threshold for QBs.

In Hue's own words....

Jackson explained 6-2 is his threshold for ideal quarterback height.

“I think a guy has to be about 6-2 to play in this league,” Jackson said. “The special guys, I don’t want to take anything away from any of the other quarterbacks, there have been guys who have played in this league who are not 6-2, but the majority of the guys who have played are 6-2 or a little bit better, and that’s just what I like in a quarterback.”

Link

By the looks of it, one that doesn't turn the ball over and especially in the red zone.

Who knows what Hue wants? His QB decisions, path of development and etc for ALL our young QBs is just mind boggling and confusing to the point I lost a lot of faith in Hue being the "qb whisperer" and etc. Him and David Lee are lacking IMO. All our QBs have had a total shot and kick to the nuts for their confidence and etc.

IDK, give him a talented one right off the bat, one that doesn't need much development and has the physical attributes and I think Hue is set. Give him projects, and we're all doomed (including the projects.)


All JMO

Remember the stories that came out about the firing of scouts that wanted Wentz right before the draft ? With all the stuff that goes on with us , it like one forgotten thing after another. Hue/FO were showing intrest way back then in Kizer

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/many-...d-carson-wentz/

The Browns' decision to pass on Carson Wentz in the draft combined with the rookie's sterling performance against them in Week 1, a potential season-ending injury to Browns starter Robert Griffin III and comments from Browns official Paul DePodesta intimating the Browns didn't believe Wentz would be a "top-20 quarterback" have created a tempest in Cleveland. As it turns out, not everyone involved in scouting quarterbacks in Cleveland before the 2016 draft was in agreement.

According to numerous sources with knowledge of the situation, several of the more seasoned scouts and evaluators the Browns parted with prior to the draft -- an unusual time to release such employees -- actually preferred Wentz to quarterback Jared Goff and believed him to be the greater pro prospect. It was clear to many in the organization dating back to December, when the Browns held intense draft meetings, that the newly-empowered analytics department, soon to be spearheaded by DePodesta, strongly preferred Goff. And new coach Hue Jackson and his offensive coordinator, Pep Hamilton, were not high on Wentz but prized Goff, sources said, and made that clear to the rest of the organization.
The Browns opted to release six members of the organization -- many of them experienced, old-school scouts -- just three weeks before the draft. At the time, they were bailing on the quarterback market in the draft (and Wentz in particular) and shopping their second-overall pick to other teams. Many of those men, a group that included former general managers and personnel directors, had never met DePodesta personally before being let go, and, with their contracts set to expire after the draft, they were going to be let go in 2016 as part of downsizing anyway.
But the timing of their release raised eyebrows then and continues to generate chatter now given the high-profile way in which their quarterback decision has played out and the fact that the segment of personnel they let go were more pro-Wentz than others.

Wentz has played just one game, and will surely face some hurdles in his rookie season, but the reviews on his debut were overly positive. The Browns could end up with the first pick in the draft, and evaluators are already gushing over Notre Dame junior quarterback DeShone Kizer. The Browns will almost certainly be taking a passer very high in 2017.

Well Sashi is in charge of the roster and player personnel. It seems to me that would indicate there would be far more of a reason to show that Sashi wasn't the person who made those decisions. After all, it's actually in his job description to make those calls.

You could be right or you could once again simply defending the FO and blaming Hue for all that goes wrong.

I am not saying your take is wrong, but I do have a few questions.

--Do you think it was Hue's idea to cut Haden?

--Do you think it was Hue's idea to cut Greco?

--Do you think it was Hue's idea to not trade up for Goff?

--Do you think it was Hue's idea to not aggressively pursue Garoppolo?

--Do you think that it is fairly evident that Sashi makes decisions w/out Hue's blessing and if so, couldn't he have done so in this instance?

--What do you make of Osweiler's comment when he was benched for Kizer? In case you missed it, Brock said to "go ask the GM."

--Who do you think has a better resume in evaluating NFL QBs? Hue or Sashi?

Again, you could be right and this all could be Hue's fault and poor Sashi is just a victim of Hue's terrible evaluations. I just kinda doubt it.

And, now that some time has passed, we see that:

* We no longer miss Schwartz and we're not tied to an exorbitant contract to lock down that roster spot. We have a home-grown replacement that has done quite well locking down that position.

* We don't miss Pryor, at all. He's done nothing this season on a better team. The only way we can say we miss him is that we have so little at the position... but, that's not enough reason to overpay for mediocrity.

* McCown - meh. It really doesn't matter if he'd be here or wouldn't. Him not being here, if nothing else, let's us get a little more clarity with the younger guys - namely, that it looks like none of them are the answer so far.

In short - time has shown that every last one of those moves was correct, despite some of them being painful in the short-term.