DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns tried to trade for Terrelle Pryor

Was it reported by a reliable trusted reporter and source?

What?

after Pryor's stellar year as a 'skin. glad we didn't pay out that contact for him now...

he'll be back next season on a much cheaper contract...unless he wants another prove deal...

j/c


I'm not surprised I've read some posts where people are trying to spin this into an inept front office thread. Pretty laughable.

In my comment in the what the front should do thread, I almost commented about either trading for Pryor or re-signing him in the offseason. However, I thought people would lol and turn it into saying the front office screwed up. Which they didn't. Unbelievable.

While Pryor has not been good for Washington, this trade attempt makes a lot of sense for us. Pryor and Jackson know each other very well, they should have never been separated. On top of that our wide receivers have been so bad that bring Pryor back would hopefully allow Kizer to develop a bit more.

I agree and I think it was a good move by the FO [if the report is true] to try and trade for Pryor. They made a mistake. It happens. They tried to fix that mistake. I applaud that.

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Putting on my hip waders and walking back into this crap yet again.


Britt signed a 4 year 32.5 million contract with 10.5 million guaranteed. He was NOT guaranteed 17 million He does not collect the other 6.5 million you are talking about unless he is still with the Browns on On the third day of the 2018 league year.

TP Signed a ONE year contract with Washington with SIX million gauranteed He is not on pace to collect a single dime of his 2 million in incentives.

There are three separate incentives that Pryor can reach, each of which has different levels, with a maximum incentive of $2 million.

Receptions: This is the most attainable incentive, worth up to $1 million. He will get $250,000 for 60 catches, $600,000 for 70 catches, and the full $1 million for 80 catches or more. So, if it’s late in the season or if he’s dealing with a nagging injury, you can understand why he’d be motivated to still gut things out.
Receiving Yards: He will get $150,000 for 750 yards, $300,000 for 1,000 yards, and $500,000 for 1,250 yards.
Touchdowns: He will get $100,000 for 6 TDs, $300,000 for 8 TDs, and $500,000 for 10 TDs.

To summarize, in order to get the full $2 million in incentives, he needs to have an 80-catch, 1,250-yard, 10-touchdown season. If he does that, he’s definitely getting paid next year too.

Clevelands final offer to TP was for 34 million over 4 years with 17 million gauranteed. So it's not the Browns fault TP left it is his own, and I called him stupid when he did so, and he looks even dumber today.

The Browns did the right thing with Pryor so get over it bro.

And, I still think TP could come back here ... there's a chance at least (if Hue is back too)

Kenny Britt signed a 4 year, $32,500,000 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $6,500,000 signing bonus, $17,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,125,000. In 2017, Britt will earn a base salary of $4,000,000 and a signing bonus of $6,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,625,000 and a dead cap value of $10,500,000.
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The full, year-by-year contract details for Cleveland Browns WR Kenny Britt are now available, via multiple sources. We will take a look at the structure of his contract, such as his base salary, guaranteed money, and cap hits. Britt’s deal is considered to be 4 years for $32.5 million with $10.5 million fully guaranteed.
WR Kenny Britt’s Contract, Cap Hits Per Year
Year Base Salary Signing Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Total Cap Hit
2017 $4,000,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $5,625,000
2018 $6,500,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $8,125,000
2019 $7,750,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $9,375,000
2020 $7,750,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $9,375,000
Total $26,000,000 $6,500,000 $0 $0 $32,500,000

Britt has $10.5 million fully guaranteed at signing. That includes his $4 million base salary in 2017 and his $6.5 million signing bonus (pro-rated to $1.625 million per year against the cap).
On the third day of the 2018 league year, Britt’s $6.5 million base salary will become fully guaranteed. If Britt is considered a bust and they want to cut him early next offseason, they’d only carry $4.875 million in dead cap space. It gets even cheaper to cut him in 2019 or 2020, when his higher base salary is not guaranteed.

Overall, this is a semi-big commitment to Britt, but they’re really only tied to him for a year or two. If he’s productive, the team can keep him around and will be willing to pay the price. If he’s suffered a decline, or if there is a better wide receiver on the market who they’d rather pay, they can cut ties with Britt and allocate that money to the new receiver.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/14/...with-the-browns

https://overthecap.com/player/kenny-britt/1723/

But yet we offered a generous package that was not matched by any other team. Ain't buying it, mac...

TPs agent screwed him...

I actually agree with that. I think there was a vested interest in trying to get Pryor to Washington. Your WR gets a one-year prove it deal with Washington or Cleveland, you're going to want him to go to Washington.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rosenhaus was doing something shady.

Britt does not factor into a discussion of whether TP's decision to leave was the right choice or not. At this point, it seems like he made the wrong choice...

It was bad advice and TP jumped the gun. Reasonable thinking should have prevailed. The Browns gave him a great offer and I think he was misled by Drew. TP was one of the best players for us last year and he really wanted to win. Tough loss!!

Do you believe the Redskins are a better team with Pryor? Would the Redskins have been better off to keep Garcon over Pryor? Do you think Pryor has a chance at EVER making what the Browns offered him last year? The agenda spin between you and Vers is laughably transparent.

Of all the legit things to be critical about from the FO, you guys try and spin the FO into being the bad guys for offering two specific players BETTER deals than what they signed-for elsewhere. The FO NAILED the fair market value - or even over-estimated it - and somehow the FO is at fault.

I think the signing of Britt most certainly ended talks w/Pryor. I think that is why they didn't even contact him about matching Washington's offer.

I think both Pryor and the Browns made the wrong choices. I think both parties wish they would have worked things out because both are worse off w/out each other.

Agreed. I don't think it was ever stated what the original offer was, but I do recall seeing that it was apparently a multi-year offer in the $7M per-year range. Pryor, apparently, thought he was more in the $11M per year range.

5 years, $55M was floated around an awful lot, and TP just isn't worth it. If the Browns were offering more around what they ultimately gave to Britt, that's the way to go.

And I think the Browns would have legitimately gave him the 4 years, $32M deal. Britt's deal has language that ultimately makes it just a 2 year, $17M deal. With Pryor, I doubt we would have included that.

I can understand pushing him towards a "Take a prove-it deal with Washington and you'll get a massive pay day next year" but it was erroneous, if we're right, to think that.

I feel for Pryor. I think he put his faith in someone who cares more about money than he does about what is best for the athlete.

I completely disagree. I think we've done an excellent job in determining the value of our players and have stuck to their intended value. I understand the frustration in seeing players leave, but if you overpay anyone, you have to overpay everyone, and you'll put yourself in salary cap hell if you do that.

We're a bad team, we frankly have to overpay, but that doesn't mean we should.

To each his own, however. I'm pretty much in the Bill Belichick thought of 'You want that much? Let me help you pack."

I think Hue would align with that. As desperate as we are to retain talent, we can't disadvantage ourselves by paying rates that aren't conducive to assembling a team long-term. The short-term rewards mean nothing when you're in hell in just a few years.

Exactly!!!! Well said.....

I think the signing of Pryor ended when he turned down the absolutely best offer the market had to give.

Maybe, except we weren't interested in signing Pryor to a 1 year deal. That didn't make any sense.

Bingo! I suspect that 1 year "show-me" deals do not fit with our plan...

most likely case

I Think Sashi's not caving in and paying Pryor the 12 to 15 million per year he wanted was smart on his part.



Yet we tried to sign Pryor FIRST and did offer him more total money and more gauranted money, so we know who the Browns wanted FIRST.



If he didn't realize that he would not have offered him a four year contract.



or maybe it does think about the value and your hatred of Sashi just has you blinded.

I wasn't aware that he wanted that much. A little surprising to me. I knew we supposedly offered 8 mill a year for 4 years. I thought that was fair.

He takes a one year show me deal, and he's not showing them. Maybe we can get him back next season.

Odd that washington wanted to keep him. Maybe we didn't offer enough?

1) I don't believe everything I hear. Although this makes sense.

2) Those trying to turn this into a hate thread for the front office are pretty much wrong.

3) We lost Coleman to injury and Britt hasn't panned out as expected. Pryor would know the system in place here. Chances are if we brought him back for the remainder of the season, he might stick around longer term.

4) I'm still not sold on Pryor as a WR, and I wouldn't have paid him more than we offered, even in hindsight. He does work his tail off and wants to be the best and help the Browns, I think that goes a long way.

5) The "can't get the tough deals done" is a silly argument that can't even be proved or defended, so I don't understand why I keep reading posts about it...

I don't have a source - but I remember the Browns offer being 4 years $32 million - right around there. I remember reading Pryor wanted in the $12-$14 million range which was why there wasn't any negotiation on the original multi year offer.

Thinking we should have paid the guy whatever he wants just because Britt has been a disaster is flat wrong.

For a team trying to build for the long term - a one year contract with a WR that wanted $12 million BEFORE his prove it year would be flat wrong. How quickly some forget Pryor's outbursts and bad sideline Karma when he and the team struggled last year. . . I wanted him and would have overpaid to keep him but lets keep the conversation real.

i think pryor bet on himself and lost...

id take him back though. he knows the offense.

he got the hillis treatment.

maybe he could of put incentives in his contracts

Nothing this front office does surprises me

No receptions for Pryor today. Did he even play?

Yes.

I'd welcome Pryor back.

I wouldn't have a problem with it. No doubt the guy is a moron and took the wrong deal....life is a learning experience.


He should have signed his best deal, but no....now he gets a fraction of that. How much do you offer a guy who is deep on the depth chart and is on pace to catch maybe 45 balls?