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Not sure what's confusing, just using the board's lingo.

We may have to release Kessler so Mayfield can wear #6.

Right now I think I'd rather have Mayfield on the Browns than at least "more than 2" NFL veteran starting quarterbacks.

Given the Okla, TCU matchup is on right now.

Field goal, Defensive touchdown, and touchdown drive by Oklahoma.

Hopefully TCU Scores to make a competitive game, a blowout wouldn't offer as much to "see".

Hey, TD. Good show. 17-7

56 yard run by the Quarterback.

Fake or Bake?

followed by a fumble picked up by the o lineman.

3rd and 6, OH! a 30 yd dropped in the end zone pass, missed field goal.

Just another failed drive, oh well, WE GOTTA GET THIS GUY.

Rocky Anderson couldn't run any higher if he was on his tip toes.

That's a Touchdown between 3 defenders, To the tight end in the middle back of the end zone from the 7 yd line-ish.

That's two this half.

A lot of holding by OK not being called .

Touchdown his first play of the 2nd half, That's 3 today,

He just laid out a quick throw to a receiver that had beaten coverage, part with a pick, part with a double move fade deeper, a short pass and a long run nets a 50 yd Td pass.

Ehh. He'd be better than the pick of Justin Gilbert, could be worse!

If Mayfield is fake, Nick Saban will expose him in the final 4 if they get a chance to, Alabama vs. Oklahoma.

That's 4th touchdown! oh!

that's a 60+ over the top, 4 passing td's and a field goal drive in a conf. championship game,

and there's 10:31 to go in the 3rd Quarter.

With all do respect, There Ain't Nothin Fake About That!

But at the moment he's a future NFL QB. I've said it before I don't analyze these guys but I'm not willing to bet against this kid at this point. Maybe that'll change...

Should easily be the #1 pick in the draft. Don't make it hard. Don't over think it. Draft the best quarterback in the draft.

By ALBERT BREER December 05, 2017

It’s easy, after what Russell Wilson did on Sunday night (and what he’s done the last six seasons), to look back on his draft year and say, If he was 6' 4", he’d have gone in the Top 5 picks. It would’ve been a lot tougher to say such a thing before Wilson had started a single NFL game.

But that’s exactly what Pete Carroll said five years and a few months ago. Wilson had just beaten out Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson for Seattle’s starting job, and I had Carroll on the phone a few days before the Seahawks’ opener against the Cardinals. Nationally, at that point, Wilson was more of a curiosity, especially considering the high-profile, first-round rookies who’d start that weekend: Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill and, ahem, Brandon Weeden. To everyone, at least, except Carroll and the Seahawks.


“[If he was 6' 4"], he’d have been vying for be the first pick,” Carroll told me then. “He has everything you look for—all the records, the numbers, he did everything. He’d be right up there with Andrew [Luck], and you’d be trying to figure it out. That’s my opinion. I just look at him, and think that there’s nothing he can’t do.”

Six years later, could all of that apply to Baker Mayfield?

Over the next four months, that’s what the NFL will be trying to figure out, as they assess the guy whose play has stripped Saturday night’s Heisman ceremony of any drama and made it a coronation. Mayfield, like Wilson before him, is an undersized, oft-overlooked star who needed to transfer just to assure that he’d even have a shot to play.


Based on the conversations I’ve had over the last few months with dozens of scouts, as well as what I’ve seen with my own eyes, I think I can make this one pretty simple: Baker Mayfield should be a first-round pick.

He’s short. So was Wilson. And to be clear, that’s not irrelevant. There’s Darwinism in the fact that most great NFL quarterbacks are tall. Seeing the field is a significant piece to playing the position, and that’s easier to do from higher ground. So the question is whether or not Mayfield is an outlier.

“He’s extremely talented,” said one AFC college scouting director. “Guys want to play for him, players believe in him, the staff believes in him. I’ve heard the comparisons to Brees, [Johnny] Manziel, Wilson, and there’s a little bit of all of them in his game. And he’s not Manziel in terms of the off-field stuff—he studies his ass off, he goes through his progressions, he’s not a typical spread QB. He has first-round ability.”


“Big-time competitor and winner,” texted an AFC exec. “He’s on the short side, but that’s O.K. He’s mobile. Accurate. Passionate. He’s gonna be good.”

The latter exec believes that Mayfield, who’s listed at 6' 1", will come in a shade over 6-foot, which is hardly a death sentence for NFL quarterbacks. In fact, it’d probably make him a shade taller than Brees and Keenum, and put him a couple inches taller than Wilson.

All of which, as another AFC college scouting director put it, “is a problem only if a team wants to make it a problem. If a guy can make all the throws, it’s not. If it affects his play on the field, it is. Johnny didn’t see the field well because he didn’t prepare. The others know how to find windows and throwing lanes. They’re used to being 6-foot, and aware of the issues. I don’t think it’s a problem for Baker.”

There are, of course, off-field flags with Mayfield. There was his February arrest for public intoxication, disorderly conduct, resisting and fleeing in Fayetteville, Ark. There’s the on-field antics too, most notably the crotch-grab that prompted coach Lincoln Riley to strip him of his captainship for his final home game.

And feelings on those incidents vary depending on who you talk to. Most scouts I’ve spoken to see his popularity with teammates and coaches, and his maniacal work ethic (which, again, Manziel lacked), and believe that, because his football character is beyond reproach, he’ll be O.K. A few others, on the other hand, see a punk who just doesn’t get it.

Either way, Mayfield promises to be the story of the combine and lead up to the draft in Dallas, and we’ll get to see him take on one more good test before then, against Georgia in the Rose Bowl (and maybe two, should the Sooners advance to play either Clemson or Alabama in Atlanta for the national title).

For now, though, my belief is plenty of teams see Mayfield as a second-round prospect, and enough like him to make it likely someone gets itchy and takes him in the first round. That is where I believe he should go.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now know Wilson should’ve been a first-round pick in 2012. Consider what Carroll told me then, when I asked what was unique about his rookie quarterback.


“Everything is,” he answered. “His smarts, his focus, his discipline, his work habits, his athleticism, his competitiveness, his confidence. Really, however you can rank them, he’s that high on that list in all those areas. Now, all of those of things will be in question in the real season, and he needs to back all that up. But if you observe him, if you know him, you think it’ll happen.”

It did, of course. And a lot of good NFL people believe it will for Mayfield, too. Which is why I’m pretty sure he won’t have to wait too long on draft weekend.



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It's to the point in this QB quest that I wouldn't mind drafting both Rosen and Mayfield.

Teams spend 2 first rounders to move up and get a QB. Why not spend 2 first rounders to get 2 QB's.

Increase your odds of getting a good qb. If both are good, you will be able to trade one.

That's what I have been saying for some time now .. Draft two ! The names may be different , lol..

I agree with this, but it is spelled "wiener."

We get to keep the wrong one though, don't we 'Peen? What would be the point to it if we don't pick the "Trust me" QB?

But I agree with the idea. Kizer is starting by default IMO. Would what he has done net him The Man position? I do not believe so. We are playing him and hyping him as new and improved, but in terms of W/L production he is not viable at this time. He plays because of Hue and because of what backs him up.

Take two so we can field a team.

Just need one...


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I have a good feeling about this guy doing well in the NFL. We shall see.

Mayfields performance against UGA will be important for me. I haven't seen any of his games, so watching his next one on a big state against a great defense... cant wait.

Mayfield has been a bigger douche than Manziel in college. I can't believe that anyone would want the Browns to draft this guy.

Whomever drafts Mayfield will love him while the other 31 teams will hate him. Mayfield is the best quarterback in the draft and is not even close. Manning is a douche. Rivers is a douche. Brady is a douche. Give me the best player, the best teammate, the best leader, that's Mayfield.

He's exceptional from the pocket, leads receivers to yac, extremely accurate, very good on the run, keeps his eyes downfield, plays with attitude, ultra competitive.... I can't believe people don't want him. People who just compare him to manziel are being ignorant.

I'll take Mayfield and you can have any or all the rest of the quarterbacks in this draft and I will beat you. It's not rocket science....but some people say 6' no thanks. Incredible!

My hero was 6' 1" ....... Brian Sipe !

We all have our opinions.

I believe people when they say that Baker Mayfield is a douche, but he's the "right" kind of douche. He has the work ethic and his team loves him.

But I'm liking what I hear about Rosen's talent. The thing I'm worried about is his attitude. What killed Manziel's career actually wasn't the drinking/partying or the fact that he was a douche getting into trouble. Those things were symptoms of the true problem, which was that he didn't have the work ethic/drive to be an NFL QB. If he drank his champagne while going over his playbook, or curled up in his swan boat to study, he would still be in the NFL. The fact that Rosen is a douche doesn't bother me, and the fact that Mayfield was arrested for being a drunken idiot doesn't bother me. What worries me is that Rosen might not have the drive/motivation to live for being an NFL QB.

Average Athleticism, average height, average to good arm. Some will love his passion, most won't.

I've seen some people compare him to Russell Wilson, but he is not even close to that athletic. He is a boom or bust prospect and will probably be the 3rd or 4th QB off the board.

Baker Mayfield

He needs to grow up. You can have a chip on your shoulder without being a punk about it.

Baker Mayfield pegs TCU safety in head during warmups

He does have some skills.

Mayfield may only be available with the #1 pick, as any other team would jump to 2 and grab him.
As Rosen, I believe would be available later than the top 5 picks in the draft, which I don't believe Mayfield will make it past the top 5, (actually #1) picks.

So if you seriously want both, don't be stupid and pick Rosen before Mayfield.

I just want to see the Browns win games, I think this guy is the best player available.

I don't give a rip about his personality or who he has offended. I don't even care that much about being right, anymore, just want to see the Browns start winning.

Y’all don’t think Mayfield could be like Romo?

Just throwing names out there based on size.

I think Mayfield could hold the snap for a 20 yard field goal successfully when the game is on the line..

idk.. looks like colt mccoy with maybe a slightly stronger arm.

Interesting comparison. Watch the film on Mayfield , everything is one read

That's actually not too terrible.... arm strength was McCoy's biggest weakness, I think.

That said, I don't think a stronger arm would have made him a franchise kinda QB... it would have elevated him to upper-tier veteran journeyman instead of backup about to fade into obscurity.

I think some are underrating Mayfield's arm strength. It's actually pretty good.