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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Safety Tashaun Gipson says he's glad he got away from the Cleveland Browns organization and hopes the Jacksonville Jaguars score at least 40 points in Sunday's matchup at FirstEnergy Stadium.

Oh, yeah: He also thinks the Jaguars' defense will pitch a shutout.

"I truly hope that we hang 40 on them," Gipson said during an interview with ESPN's Freddie and Fitz radio show on Monday. "Their offense probably shouldn't score against our defense and I'm excited. That's the true thing.

"It's personal, but yet at the end of the day you're still blessed ... knowing that I'm in a situation right now where I don't look back about it. I don't look back with any regrets. I'm extremely excited with where I'm at right now, but you know it's definitely going to be personal man, for sure."

That wasn't the only shot Gipson took at the Browns during his interview. He also said he's glad he's no longer a part of an organization that has lost double-digit games in 12 of the past 14 seasons.

The Browns have won only two of their past 36 games and are the NFL's only remaining winless team (0-9) in 2017. Gipson said the blame for that rests squarely on the front office and not the players. They've bungled decision after decision, he said, especially when it comes to quarterback.

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"You look back and I feel bad for those guys because, like I said, it's nothing that they can do. They just go out there and play," Gipson said. "It's the guys above them who make these decisions and, you know, it's unfortunate. We've seen it time and time again, the opportunity that's slipped by them.

"Every time [Eagles quarterback] Carson Wentz pop up on the TV, somebody brings it up [that the Browns didn't draft him]. I had to play against [Texans rookie quarterback] Deshaun Watson. It's unfortunate what happened to him, but that's going to be one of the best young quarterbacks in the league and one of the best quarterbacks in the league in the coming years.

"It's things like that you just continue to scratch your head. You've just got to look back and say, 'Man, I'm glad to get up out of there.'"

Gipson spent the first four seasons of his career with the Browns after signing as an undrafted free agent out of Wyoming in 2012. He developed into one of the better safeties in the league, making the Pro Bowl in 2014.

Gipson was one of four starters the Browns chose not to retain in the 2016 free-agency period; tackle Mitchell Schwartz (Chiefs), center Alex Mack (Falcons) and receiver Travis Benjamin (Chargers) were the others, all signing on the first day of free agency.

Gipson would go on to sign a five-year, $36 million contract with the Jaguars in March 2016, with $12 million guaranteed.

Gipson said that while he may not have fond memories of the organization, he appreciates the fan base.


"Coming from the situation in which I came, you know, the way that I made it to Cleveland, the opportunity that I was granted and just the path that I paved for myself -- I'll forever be in debt to the city of Cleveland because they helped me get to my first Pro Bowl, besides the God-given ability to go out there and make plays," he said. "The fans, they supported me, they loved me, they brought me in. It was never a situation where it was any ill will to the fans. I don't have any ill will because I'm blessed, but it's going to be a little different and honestly it's going to be exciting [to return to Cleveland]."

Gipson said he still speaks with Browns linebacker Christian Kirksey and secondary coach DeWayne Walker, who spent the past four seasons in a similar role with the Jaguars. Otherwise, Gipson has had minimal contact with former teammates.

"I can't read minds, but I can only imagine what's going on in those guys' minds over there," he said. "I mean, it's pretty bad."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21405...ns-organization

If we are going to win one game this year. I damn sure want to be this one.

skunk us? lay 40 on us?

oh hell no.

Actually, he was a pretty nice.

This place has to sap the life out of you.

Low class. Not like all the spew here is somebody else's dirt and disaster.

Can't throw rocks if you were a failing participant.

Don't stone it; you own it.

It would be great to hang a win on these guys. Hopefully Kizer has suddenly learned enough to matter and win.

He didn’t trash the city.

He didn’t trash the fans.

He didn’t trash the players.

He didn’t trash the coaching staff.

He went straight for the FO.

I’m glad he said these things, personally. Tashaun was one of the better safeties we had on this team, and him and Ward were absolutely fun to watch. But the FO really needs to hear things like this from players. There needs to be a daily reminder of how bad they truly suck at their jobs right now.

Oh really? . You had one good year here...

Looks like the people who said back in 2015/2016 that it was clear he wanted out were right. Whaddya know! But we can blame Sashi & Co for not keeping him.

I still think he got overpaid.

Just curious ...

What did he say that isn’t true? ....

Most posters are actually harder on our FO over the QB situation than he was ...

The only thing i found “ironic” about it was him talking about our lack of a QB ... there a qb away from being one of the best teams in football ...

I’m not sure Bortles is better than anything we have right now ... other than him they have a damm fine football team ....

PLEASE let me know what he said that wasn’t true ,,,

yes we were lol long debates on that one.

Tashaun Gipson can be as bitter as he wants, but his issues are his own. He had two wonderful seasons with us and two not-so-wonderful seasons - his final season, in a contract year, was utterly embarrassing. He was dreadful and hardly holding on to a starting spot. His play was inconsistent, he was often injured (Missed significant time in 3/4 seasons) and he wanted the world when it came to free agency. The Browns, rightfully, looked elsewhere.

Tashaun was awful for the Jaguars last year, and his impressive start this season still hasn't prevented rumors that the Jaguars will opt out of Gipson's contract at the end of the season in favour of a much cheaper option as Gipson's contract spikes in cost over the coming three years.

All Gipson is done has made himself look like an arrogant fool.

Diam what he says is true.

But what I take offense too, is him talking about the drubbing he wants to lay on us.

this is our house damnit lol We won't lay down and play dead for anybody.

40-0? oh hell nah bro lol not today Gipson. so sorry, but now we gotta throw them a beat down.

lol I am scrappy when it comes to the Browns.

j/c:

I always liked Gipson. Well, not always because I didn't know who he was at first. Then, I saw him play pretty damn well as a rookie.

I remember all three of his DC's praising him. Jauron was the first one and his words got my attention. I started watching him more closely and I saw a guy who was doing a very good job at FS and it was not just "one year."

I really think Sashi alienated him. Sashi was in charge of contract negotiations and he low-balled Gipson. And even though Sashi was screwing him over, Gipson continued to be a team guy. I remember him playing through injuries and even lining up at corner [while injured] at the end of the year when several of his teammates went to IR in the throes of a losing season.

Some people think that Sashi's dealings w/players is a good thing. I disagree. I think he alienates a lot of good players like Gipson and I think that guys don't want to sign here because of his--and the team's--reputation.

The Browns still don't have a FS due to Sashi's analytics. Gipson is a damn fine player and he would have been a huge asset to this defense. I hope the dude gets two picks this week.

In a somewhat related issue: What in the world did Sashi do [other than his brilliant contract negotiations w/guys like Gipson, Schwartz, Mack, Benji, etc do to merit gaining so much power w/the Browns? Seriously.........what are his qualifications to be in charge of a football organization?

And people want to nit pick and rip on Hue every week while excusing that moron?

Settle down down there Mr. Smith ....

I get your angle bro ... TRUE DAT ...

I was talking to the folks that want to trash him for what he said about the FO and the mood of the players towards it right now ...

Personally ..were going to put 9 or 10 guys in the box and dare Bortles to beat us .. thats if Williams decides to get his head out of his ass and not play everyone 30 yards deep ..... *L* ..... don’t see them scoring more than 24 or so on O .... their D could post a decent number on our O though .... *LOL* ..

NO WAY are they shutting us out .... there good but there not that good ...

So Sashi alienated him before he took over in his current position when Gipson was given a one-year tender by Farmer or alienated him between January - March of 2016?

What was hard to understand? Sashi was in charge of contract negotiations at that time.

So Sashi would have trumped what Banner and Farmer wanted when it came to choosing who and how to sign players. Is this what you're saying?

But Sashi was the contract negotiator, EO! Apparently that gave him reign to do whaterver he pleased with agents regardless of orders from the boss(es). Like the AJ McCarron deal!

I think Gipson and Schwartz were huge losses for this team.

I was a big Gipson fan then. Still am.

This article doesn't change that for me.

Browns are an easy target. That's what losing will do. Stories like this will stop if they ever start winning. Winning just doesn't seem to be very important.

I did not comment nor judge as to the truthfulness of his statements. What I did get a kick out of was the fact that he said he doesn't look back...and yet that's exactly what he did.

Ungrateful, mediocre player who flashed for a year and a half. What he forgot to mention with his big mouth is that this organization kept him from bagging groceries by picking up his un-drafted ass, then trained him to play well enough to get a decent contract where he can play out his mediocre career in relative obscurity. The other thing he forgot to mention was that he wouldn't sign his tender because he was holding out for a long term offer, but the FO wanted to see him play one more year before doing a contract. When he $#!% the bed with his poor performance and didn't get the contract, he left with an attitude. Screw him and his picking of the low hanging fruit. I hope we light his ass up.

JMHO

No. I am saying that Sashi was in charge of contract negotiations. Btw--Banner was gone. Farmer was in charge.

I tried to tie in [which you did not quote] how in the hell did Sashi get his current job? It seems to me that Sashi had quite a bit of say on what was going on w/the Browns because his qualifications in no way warranted him getting his current position.

I think the opposite is true. The losing will stop when stories like this stop. In other words, you can't have an incompetent and cut-throat guy like Sashi in charge of a business that is so people oriented.

I'm okay with saying "I disagreed with the front office's decision not to re-sign me and think it was a mistake, but wish the players and fans all the beset".

IMO, he went too far

I wish he would have went further. I can't even imagine how toxic the culture is in Cleveland under the direction of Jimmy Haslam and Sashi Brown.

I am aware. Sashi worked under Banner and Farmer in the same capacity. That's why I mentioned Banner.



Of course he did....he was an executive and well respected, according to Haslem. I think there is even a quote from a team or agent referencing Sashi's ability to work well with others.

To say he "alienated" Gipson sounds ridiculous and not really based on anything substantive. And once again looks to be very agenda-driven because there is nothing really there to back that up. More likely, IMO, Gipson was pissed at being given a low-round tender by Farmer in 2015 and that paved the way for the divorce. That and the constant losing. Both make far more sense than Brown "alienating" him.

I won't even condemn him for the comments, but I think it was unwise. He just gave us bulletin board material, & I hope we use it as motivation.

Yep, my opinions are always "agenda driven" and yours are totally objective.

Have a nice day.

I don't think he gave us bulletin board material, lamp. Well, if Haslam, Sashi, and the rest of the FO is playing in the game...they might consider it bulletin board material, but Gipson did not bad-mouth the players or the fans.

I think he spoke the truth. But, then again........I have an "agenda" and those who want to protect the FO no matter what do not have an "agenda." And no.........I am not including you in that group.

Compared to yours? Hell yeah they're objective!

Ahhhhh.......there we go. Making it personal.

How original.

Wouldn't be a bit shocked if they whack us good!

I sure ain't sticking up for this mess.

Yeah, I've heard the Jags opting out rumor too.

He threw some blows there, nothing too hardcore, but maybe... just maybe our team will get a fire lit and Gipson's Jags (that are considering moving ways away from him) will be our first and likely only win of the season.

Then he has a ton of crow to eat. Chances are... the Jags will destroy us.

i dont think so. Sashi was in charge.. he left in the 2016.

TG is entitled to his opinion and I'm sure it's one that many of us feel the same way about. But saying he'd like to see the Jags "hang 40" on us is an affront to all our players. the FO is one thing the Browns players are another. IMO he's out of line with it.

i think the guy would like nothing more than to put one more nail in the Sashi Brown coffin.

He did not say one thing that is not true. If the Browns don't like it, they need to change that. Because exactly what he said is the reputation we have around this league. We are joke of a franchise. There is no denying that.

I saw at halftime of one of the games ... may have even been ours ...

The dude in the studio said about the play before the half ...

“They browned it” ....

I have to admit I ... *L* ... as much as it hurt cause it was WELL DESERVED it was still funny ...

j/c

Seeing the responses reminds me of the Nicholson line in a few good men.

"The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Posters say similar things all the time but it's no big deal. Gipson says it and all of a sudden it's a big deal.

#brownsfanstears