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More news about Moore has come out. And It is looking more by the minute that the claims are substantiated. So where is the issue here? The guy looks to be a pedo, and should be dealt with accordingly. Now why was waiting to want to get all the facts, stories, etc out before condemning a guy horrible, I still do not understand.

I have a feeling you are going to hear a lot more stories about others coming out, just like we are seeing in Hollywood. I hope and pray, that we can allow the system and facts to become more clear before we hang a person without the actual evidence. I have seen way too many times in my life, accusations that have ruined someone's life only to be false.

But I will tell you what, I bet you my 401K that not a single one of you would say to my face some of the things you have said to me on this board. They're are a lot keyboard warriors on here that need a wake up call and need to learn some respect.


I'm proud of you. thumbsup

And I'll give you props for sticking to your guns, but some of us 'keyboard warriors' came to the conclusion faster than you, that's all.
There is nothing in this situation to be proud of, when it comes to something like this, but that's JMO. However, I am still steadfast in my opinion. I was not ready to condemn a man until it was just about absolute misdeeds were committed. Those accusations are just about there after what I was able review last night. I stated multiple times if he was pedophile he needs shot. I don't get why that wasn't enough for some of you. We seen in the general election accusers come and go. We seen it in prior elections before that. We have seen how accusation in other types of cases can cause cities to burn like Ferguson. I think people these days would rather these things take place, just so they can point a finger at the other side and validate their stance, than these things take not place at all. And that is just sad. Read the comments.....posters were more concerned about me admitting he was pedophile that the actual crime. Go back and look, there were more post about me waiting to give my judgment on the case, than the actual case itself. That is where this country is and its sad.

I do fear that accusations like these are going to become a weapon to force people to withdraw from races going forward, on both sides. Politics is a dirty game, and there no low that either side will go. I fear now that all you will have to do is make whisper of it, and there will be no return.

I have seen it personally someone get destroyed over false accusations. Because of my personal experience, I do not judge these things until the are pretty much absolute. What is absolute to you, may not be enough for me. What is absolute for me, may be more than enough for you. Just because YOU are ready to condemn someone, doesn't mean I have to yet. And vice versa. Sad, sad place some people are in.

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Roy Moore: 'New rights' in 1965, and today we've got a problem

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch...m-1096186947952

i'll be waiting for people to slam the source. but it's a video with him saying it word for word.

this guy is a racist pedophile.

a hero of the religious right.


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Taking my wife to a move this morning, I'll read and address the other stuff later, but you gotta remember dude, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU LOST.


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Taking my wife to a move this morning, I'll read and address the other stuff later, but you gotta remember dude, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU LOST.


because we don't support pedophiles is a reason we lost?

you realize this loser still has majority support from evangelicals, right?

so the only way for liberals to win is to support racism and pedophilia?

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Most of them don’t have 401k’s bro ... so i wouldn’t make that bet ... even if they do .. i’m Guessing you’d be risking a lot and they’d be risking next to nothing .... rofl ...




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Most of who? Don't just show your teeth here.


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Most of them don’t have 401k’s bro ... so i wouldn’t make that bet ... even if they do .. i’m Guessing you’d be risking a lot and they’d be risking next to nothing .... rofl ...


you probably emptied your 401k so you can donate to the defense of a pedophile.

honestly you have no credibility to take shots at anyone. you are oblivious to the world around you and people like you make society worse because of it.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange

But I will tell you what, I bet you my 401K that not a single one of you would say to my face some of the things you have said to me on this board. They're are a lot keyboard warriors on here that need a wake up call and need to learn some respect.


Obviously you don't know me because you're dead wrong. The only one looking like a keyboard warrior here is this post by you. Sounds kind of threatening. But you can't really threaten someone qwho would call your bluff, every, single, time.


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Like I told you before willit, the evidence was out there all along while you defended him. All you had to do was google it and look it up. Don't blame us because you waited so long to find it.

At least you finally did.


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The fact you found that threatening tells me I was correct. hahaha

im gonna start buying up safe spaces and renting them out on hourly basis. Might be the best investment strategy every thought of.

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So when someone says they'll say the same thing to your face, they need a safe space? lmao

Keep reaching there big fella. I called you on it and you got nothing. Save your tough talk for some weaklings that would be scared by it. I'm not the one. I've seen your kind before and dealt with them face to face. You're just another keyboard commando. Nothing new here.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Roy Moore: 'New rights' in 1965, and today we've got a problem

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch...m-1096186947952

i'll be waiting for people to slam the source. but it's a video with him saying it word for word.

this guy is a racist pedophile.

a hero of the religious right.


To be fair, he's referring to Griswold here (prayer in school), not the Civil Rights Act.

He is a racist pedophile, though.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange

But I will tell you what, I bet you my 401K that not a single one of you would say to my face some of the things you have said to me on this board. They're are a lot keyboard warriors on here that need a wake up call and need to learn some respect.


If you were still denying the story, I'd tell you while playing CoD, in the middle of the match. "Get B, also Ray Moore is a pedophile. If you continue to support him you are also a pedophile." I'd tell it to your face in the middle of a library or a club. I'd whisper it in your ear, if you wanted. You kept saying, "Wait until x" like it meant something or was an actual defense. 5 different people accused him, he signed his victim's HS yearbook as a 30 year old, cops who supported him against Strange, said he was banned from the local mall in the 70's and 80's. Yet you still wanted more evidence. Now what has changed that has made you believe? Sean Hannity?

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Well Hannity came out and said it's true. So you know, until Hannity says it, it isn't true.

I mean if all you do is go around claiming a guy didn't do it without even trying to find out all of the facts, that makes you a blind supporter of anything. But once FOX News comes out and says it, well that changes everything.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange

But I will tell you what, I bet you my 401K that not a single one of you would say to my face some of the things you have said to me on this board. They're are a lot keyboard warriors on here that need a wake up call and need to learn some respect.


If you were still denying the story, I'd tell you while playing CoD, in the middle of the match. "Get B, also Ray Moore is a pedophile. If you continue to support him you are also a pedophile." I'd tell it to your face in the middle of a library or a club. I'd whisper it in your ear, if you wanted. You kept saying, "Wait until x" like it meant something or was an actual defense. 5 different people accused him, he signed his victim's HS yearbook as a 30 year old, cops who supported him against Strange, said he was banned from the local mall in the 70's and 80's. Yet you still wanted more evidence. Now what has changed that has made you believe? Sean Hannity?
Don't watch Hannity, did he?

What changed was congress, who would have more information and the DOJ said they substantiated the claims. I don't rely on biased news reports, from the left or right. I wait for actual officials to determine it.

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They individually did this the day of the allegation, but OK.

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http://theweek.com/speedreads/737546/roy-moores-lawyer-just-went-msnbc-went-badly

just watch the video of Moore's lawyer defending him.

my god.....i just can't anymore. so disgusting.


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welcome to alabama, where a pedophile is better than a democrat.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
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I really don't understand why the hell this is a left/right thing, other than the fact the usual suspects on this board are predictably defending their affiliated sides...


I was just pointing out the obvious. Facts are facts. The republican's will vote for sexual predators. Some have admitted that they would. Deplorable right?


Didn't the Dems do the same thing back in the 90's? My whole real point is that this shouldn't be a left vs right thing...but it became one. Hypocrisy is running abound just because people refuse to see the villainy in their own sides, and/or refuse to say "hey, I may have really screwed up when I backed this guy."


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The Left prosecutes sexual predators. The Right elects them.


Bill.

Next topic.


Bill was prosecuted. Impeached. Censored.

Trump. .. Back on topic


The topic is sexual predators.

Unfortunately, it's a wide net, and Bill Clinton is most certainly caught in it.

This shouldn't be a political issue.


You said it more succinctly than I did. Thank you.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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Taking my wife to a move this morning, I'll read and address the other stuff later, but you gotta remember dude, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU LOST.


because we don't support pedophiles is a reason we lost?

you realize this loser still has majority support from evangelicals, right?

so the only way for liberals to win is to support racism and pedophilia?


I'm not bothering anymore. I didn't say anything like that. I've listed on several occasions my opinions on the other reasons other than Hillary that I believe contributed to why she lost so...


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well it's turning out that one of the reasons hillary lost is because she called out people for being deplorables.

take a look at the situation in alabama. seems to be the most accurate statement told the whole election season from both candidates.


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Ted,
Stop trying to revise history. When Clinton was in trouble for his affairs, he was only barely getting cover because atleast 2 of the WOMEN were selling their stories. People knew old Billy did it but the evidence and stories were going to the highest bidder!!

Monica, everyone knew he did it!! But we also saw that Monica was TRYING to get with him. And Billy was trying to play cute with the word "is" and wether Monica giving him some "sloppy toppy" is a sexual relationship!!

Old Roy had 5 women accuse him of getting with them as teenagers. Old Roy went on Hannity and just destroyed himself with the "I didn't date girls without Moms permission"!! - That just screams underage dating!!. But folks still kept backing him. Last woman comes out with a signed high school yearbook and some folks still were trying to defend old Roy!!...That is called sick!! Folks would back a pedophile when the evidence is clear!!!!

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As I told you earlier Swish,
only sick people try to justify their political party choice when their is evidence of the candidate being a pedophile! I told you that earlier!

And it should disgust you to even type at these sick folks on this board trying to defend Old Roy, child predator!!

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Sixth Roy Moore Accuser Comes Forward, Says He Groped Her In 1991

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sixth-roy-moore-accuser-comes-233755076.html

Predator.


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Fox News' Hannity decides not to pass judgment on Roy Moore

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-hannity-demands-answers-moore-170112130.html


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Fox News' Hannity decides not to pass judgment on Roy Moore

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-hannity-demands-answers-moore-170112130.html


Saw this and watched the video. Moore wrote a well crafted response but more accusations have surfaced. He's guilty as sin but might have muddied the waters enough to change the far right's minds (at least those beginning to abandon him).

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He's a shoe in to win this. His base doesn't care that he's a pedophile.


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He's a shoe in to win this. His base doesn't care that he's a pedophile.

I would have no problem NOT voting for the democrat if I don't agree with their politics.. but I could never vote for Moore.. I would just not vote.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
He's a shoe in to win this. His base doesn't care that he's a pedophile.


The truth is that his base doesn't believe the accusers and thinks they are motivated by politics and money.

I would like to see the Judge have an ethics investigation just like they are offering to Franken. Let the truth come out, legally.

There were times in America where a woman would accuse a man of whistling at her and the lynch mob would haul him away to be hanged. At the hanging, the entire town would turn out to say, "Yea, we heard it!" "I was there and saw the whole thing!"

And shortly after, another innocent man would have his neck stretched.

Those days are supposed to be behind us. I hope they are.

If the People of Alabama elect the Judge, then an ethics investigation should be held and throw his arse out once he is proven guilty. Prosecute where possible.


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If the People of Georgia elect the Judge, then an ethics investigation should be held


If the people of Georgia elect Roy Moore, that is a serious problem as he's running in Alabama.

(somebody create a GIF of Forest Gump shouting ALABAMA!!)


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That is a good point Ted. I fixed it.

I do however think the people of Alabama will not elect the Judge and this will go back to being an Alabama problem.

The people of Georgia however, will do as they please.

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Is there a reason trump is now supporting Moore?


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Once again, you're being willfully obtuse here, and it's baffling that one would do so in service of a pedophile.

You and others keep attempting to frame the debate as a "he said/she said" - making it seem as if it's possible that these are lies and smears done by an accuser with an ulterior motive, with a few others joining in.

Five - five - of these women have accused him. Each one has dozens of corroborating witnesses. Alabama police officers have confirmed that Moore was banned from his local shopping mall for trying to pick up underage women. All of these accounts have been carefully vetted by multiple sources.

This is hardly the case of Emmett Till.

Stop acting like this is something to shrug at and say "who knows the real truth?".

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I must admit I lack your expertise as a Doctor, Psychiatrist, and now Jurist on these Boards but I must remind you that here in America we try to serve up Justice, not trial by public opinion.

We need to look at the facts, weigh the evidence, and pronounce judgement in a fair and educated way. Emotion generally gets innocent people hanged.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I must admit I lack your expertise as a Doctor, Psychiatrist, and now Jurist on these Boards but I must remind you that here in America we try to serve up Justice, not trial by public opinion.

We need to look at the facts, weigh the evidence, and pronounce judgement in a fair and educated way. Emotion generally gets innocent people hanged.


The guy who routinely gets duped into copying and pasting articles about things like Obama holding a military coup or Antifa supersoldiers vowing to behead small business owners is here to tell us about carefully weighing and considering evidence.

And we're not talking about a court of law here. This is about whether or not someone is fit to serve in the Senate. Moore wasn't qualified to do that before these allegations, and he certainly isn't now.

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. This is about whether or not someone is fit to serve in the Senate. Moore wasn't qualified to do that before these allegations, and he certainly isn't now.


In your not so humble opinion that is.

You will also need to understand when it comes to the Media, I can be mislead at times because I come from a time when there was Integrity and Honor in News Media.

As you have shown us on multiple occasions, this is no longer true.

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Is there a reason trump is now supporting Moore?

Is he supporting him?

Last I heard he had remained largely silent on Moore... while not remaining silent on Franken.


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