8:01 - White House tells press to expect a "low-key day" 8:07 - White House instructs pool to clarify that the PRESS will have a low-key day; pool says Trump will have "full schedule of meetings and phone calls" 8:26 - Trump arrives at his golf course to play 18 holes
i'm still waiting for the same guys who wouldn't shut up about obama's golfing to blast trump for already eclipsing obama's 8 years worth of golfing in less than a year.
but i guess it'll be a cold day in hell before they admit they were nothing more than hypocrites.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i still believe 100% my comments when it came to obama vs trump.
if obama had 5 kids by three different women, he would've never been elected into office. the we've already seen how people treated him with the birther nonsense, imagine how that would've played out if his "family values" was the same as trump.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Read this morning that today is Trump's 100th Day (since becoming President) spent at a Trump property. That's about 1/3 of his Presidency.
i wonder if normal people would still have a job if they spent a third of their time golfing instead of working.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
oh, and mar-a-lago is now being booked by far right organizations, because the normal clientele stopped going there on the regular.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i'm still waiting for the same guys who wouldn't shut up about obama's golfing to blast trump for already eclipsing obama's 8 years worth of golfing in less than a year.
but i guess it'll be a cold day in hell before they admit they were nothing more than hypocrites.
Well, Trump does golf. A lot.
But, I don't believe he has eclipsed Obama's 8 years of golfing.
Politifact - don't know what side of the fence they are on. As of the writing of the article, Oct. 10, 2017, Trump had played 12 more rounds of golf than Obama had after the same amount of time.
But trump golfing more in 10-11 months than Obama did in 8 years? No. O played 333 times over 8 years.
Regardless, it's a bad look, especially when considered in light of his comments about Obama golfing too much.
I agree. The man is 71 years old, and has had a number of highly successful careers in his lifetime. If he needs to spend a little time on the golf course, so be it. Most people are retired at that age.
i'm still waiting for the same guys who wouldn't shut up about obama's golfing to blast trump for already eclipsing obama's 8 years worth of golfing in less than a year.
but i guess it'll be a cold day in hell before they admit they were nothing more than hypocrites.
It'll probably happen the same day that Obama supporters admit they were hypocrites when they ripped GW for golfing, but not their own man.
I don't know, but sounds like an opportunity to truly come together on an issue!
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
I agree. The man is 71 years old, and has had a number of highly successful careers in his lifetime. If he needs to spend a little time on the golf course, so be it. Most people are retired at that age.
And most should be.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I agree. The man is 71 years old, and has had a number of highly successful careers in his lifetime. If he needs to spend a little time on the golf course, so be it. Most people are retired at that age.
What a weak ass excuse, and that says a lot because you constantly make weak excuses for trump.
I wonder what excuse you and others have for his blatant lie about “probably” being named Time person of the year.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i still believe 100% my comments when it came to obama vs trump.
if obama had 5 kids by three different women, he would've never been elected into office. the we've already seen how people treated him with the birther nonsense, imagine how that would've played out if his "family values" was the same as trump.
After 8 years of Ocommie people would have probably voted for PDF's $4500 cat.
i still believe 100% my comments when it came to obama vs trump.
if obama had 5 kids by three different women, he would've never been elected into office. the we've already seen how people treated him with the birther nonsense, imagine how that would've played out if his "family values" was the same as trump.
After 8 years of Ocommie people would have probably voted for PDF's $4500 cat.
2 things:
1. ocommie is really weak, and only confirms that you conservatives are out of touch.
2. why that shot at homeboy's cat? seems unnecessary.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Trump is on pace to break Obama's and Bush's pace for times spent away from Washington and/or on the golf course.
Then again, the more time he’s on a golf course the less time he’s putting his foot in his mouth.
Yep. I'm slowly beginning to love Trump as President, just because he's so inefficient. Pence would have repealed Obamacare by now. With Trump, we're almost a year in and have no substantial piece of legislation that has passed or look like it will pass. I'm not even mad. In fact, I might like this reality better than if HRC won.
Trump is on pace to break Obama's and Bush's pace for times spent away from Washington and/or on the golf course.
Then again, the more time he’s on a golf course the less time he’s putting his foot in his mouth.
Yep. I'm slowly beginning to love Trump as President, just because he's so inefficient. Pence would have repealed Obamacare by now. With Trump, we're almost a year in and have no substantial piece of legislation that has passed or look like it will pass. I'm not even mad. In fact, I might like this reality better than if HRC won.
Yeah, I don't understand the "I'll take President Pence" crowd.
Things - bad things - would actually get done under Pence. Things that Trump's incompetence are currently preventing.
Trump is on pace to break Obama's and Bush's pace for times spent away from Washington and/or on the golf course.
Then again, the more time he’s on a golf course the less time he’s putting his foot in his mouth.
Yep. I'm slowly beginning to love Trump as President, just because he's so inefficient. Pence would have repealed Obamacare by now. With Trump, we're almost a year in and have no substantial piece of legislation that has passed or look like it will pass. I'm not even mad. In fact, I might like this reality better than if HRC won.
Yeah, I don't understand the "I'll take President Pence" crowd.
Things - bad things - would actually get done under Pence. Things that Trump's incompetence are currently preventing.
That's a matter of opinion of course.. but more importantly, do you now see why a lot of Trump supporters aren't reacting to Trumps antics the way you guy think they should? What do they have to lose? Ok, Trump gets impeached or booted out of office... so what? Mike Pence gets to start.. someone I think most people who voted for Trump would even view as an upgrade
#donttemptmewithagoodtime
I'm not a big Trump fan. He makes things more complicated than they need to be. I was actually going to throw my hat in for Gary Johnson this time around until it became clear to me he wasn't actually serious about wanting the job. But I understand who Trump is, WHY Trump is, and I understand exactly how we ended up with the two sh*^$&est candidates for President in modern history.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
That’s because they are overestimating the impact mike pence will have.
If trump is impeached, mike pence is powerless. He’ll have a few executive orders here and there until 2020, but people forget that if trump goes, all those gop politicians in Congress who hitched their wagon on trump goes with him. It’s gonna be resignations left and right, and 2018 is gonna be a damn near sweep for the Dems.
So pence will literally be a figurehead and nothing more.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
That's a matter of opinion of course.. but more importantly, do you now see why a lot of Trump supporters aren't reacting to Trumps antics the way you guy think they should? What do they have to lose? Ok, Trump gets impeached or booted out of office... so what? Mike Pence gets to start.. someone I think most people who voted for Trump would even view as an upgrade
#donttemptmewithagoodtime
I agree with you in regards to that perspective (but not that perspective).
However, personally I don't think I could even passively champion an immoral imbecile in the name of...what exactly? Winning?
I had to take a shower after voting for Clinton. I'm *still* ashamed of it. I couldn't possibly imagine, if she won, feeling like it was some big win over the enemy. I'd probably be feeling even greater shame.
That’s because they are overestimating the impact mike pence will have.
If trump is impeached, mike pence is powerless. He’ll have a few executive orders here and there until 2020, but people forget that if trump goes, all those gop politicians in Congress who hitched their wagon on trump goes with him. It’s gonna be resignations left and right, and 2018 is gonna be a damn near sweep for the Dems.
So pence will literally be a figurehead and nothing more.
Possibly... (and I'll admit probably likely, especially if it's in the latter half of Trumps term)..
But I would caution you on the belief of automatic sweeping wins for Dems. The Dems have ton of ground to make up and still have to be able to put something and someone coherent out there, someone who isn't going to be so immediately polarizing.
Because don't forget, the fight between Trump and the establishment is real. Hypothetically I could see a guy like Cruz coming out and doing 2 things:
1) (Assuming the Dems haven't learned their lesson by then) pointing at the Dems ans saying "Look, they aren't offering anything different than they did with Hillary or Bernie. There's a reason you didn't vote for them, and those reasons probably haven't changed.
2) Then he can point to Trump and run a campaign to restore sanity within the Party and the political landscape.
I don't know if it could carry him in to the White House, but I think he could have great success running on those 2 things.
Man, this last go around politics has been a crapshoot.
Get this, here in NC, we retained a Gop led legislature, and we didn't see any GOP losses in the House or Senate. Our GOP governor who had help guide the State back in to fiscal sustainability and a decent economy (after 2 Dem governors)... LOST to a Democrat.
The reason? That damn tranny bathroom issue LOL And it wasn't even an issue that he took point on.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
That's a matter of opinion of course.. but more importantly, do you now see why a lot of Trump supporters aren't reacting to Trumps antics the way you guy think they should? What do they have to lose? Ok, Trump gets impeached or booted out of office... so what? Mike Pence gets to start.. someone I think most people who voted for Trump would even view as an upgrade
#donttemptmewithagoodtime
I agree with you in regards to that perspective (but not that perspective).
However, personally I don't think I could even passively champion an immoral imbecile in the name of...what exactly? Winning?
I had to take a shower after voting for Clinton. I'm *still* ashamed of it. I couldn't possibly imagine, if she won, feeling like it was some big win over the enemy. I'd probably be feeling even greater shame.
Would you still feel that way if Hillary was unabashedly, and unashamedly sticking it to the GOP on issues? Clearly she would be of a different style LOL but if she was openly sticking it to them on issues, would you feel so bad about your vote?
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
Because don't forget, the fight between Trump and the establishment is real.
Could you cite specific differences?
Because from where I'm sitting, Trump is more or less an uwitting puppet of the "establishment". He champions whatever they do, and while he's a malfunctioning puppet who derails their plans with his mouth, he's behind their proposals (and vice versa).
It seems to me like this Trump v. Establishment battle is one of couth - so you end up with guys like Flake who say things like "I think the president is vulgar", but vote with him at a 96% clip.
What, specifically, is at odds policy-wise between Trump and the establishment?
That's a matter of opinion of course.. but more importantly, do you now see why a lot of Trump supporters aren't reacting to Trumps antics the way you guy think they should? What do they have to lose? Ok, Trump gets impeached or booted out of office... so what? Mike Pence gets to start.. someone I think most people who voted for Trump would even view as an upgrade
#donttemptmewithagoodtime
I agree with you in regards to that perspective (but not that perspective).
However, personally I don't think I could even passively champion an immoral imbecile in the name of...what exactly? Winning?
I had to take a shower after voting for Clinton. I'm *still* ashamed of it. I couldn't possibly imagine, if she won, feeling like it was some big win over the enemy. I'd probably be feeling even greater shame.
Would you still feel that way if Hillary was unabashedly, and unashamedly sticking it to the GOP on issues? Clearly she would be of a different style LOL but if she was openly sticking it to them on issues, would you feel so bad about your vote?
I can't imagine many scenarios where Hillary would be "sticking it" to the GOP.
1) She would be hamstrung by the Congress and Senate
2) She's more or less a Republican herself. There's not exactly a big chasm there.
Nothing suggested hope of competence or a progressive agenda from Hillary. It was strictly a "keep out the soup-brained child" for most. She would've been absolutely thumped by pretty much anybody - including a toad like Cruz. Trump barely beating her was indicative of how truly loathed she was.
That’s because they are overestimating the impact mike pence will have.
If trump is impeached, mike pence is powerless. He’ll have a few executive orders here and there until 2020, but people forget that if trump goes, all those gop politicians in Congress who hitched their wagon on trump goes with him. It’s gonna be resignations left and right, and 2018 is gonna be a damn near sweep for the Dems.
So pence will literally be a figurehead and nothing more.
Possibly... (and I'll admit probably likely, especially if it's in the latter half of Trumps term)..
But I would caution you on the belief of automatic sweeping wins for Dems. The Dems have ton of ground to make up and still have to be able to put something and someone coherent out there, someone who isn't going to be so immediately polarizing.
Because don't forget, the fight between Trump and the establishment is real. Hypothetically I could see a guy like Cruz coming out and doing 2 things:
1) (Assuming the Dems haven't learned their lesson by then) pointing at the Dems ans saying "Look, they aren't offering anything different than they did with Hillary or Bernie. There's a reason you didn't vote for them, and those reasons probably haven't changed.
2) Then he can point to Trump and run a campaign to restore sanity within the Party and the political landscape.
I don't know if it could carry him in to the White House, but I think he could have great success running on those 2 things.
Man, this last go around politics has been a crapshoot.
Get this, here in NC, we retained a Gop led legislature, and we didn't see any GOP losses in the House or Senate. Our GOP governor who had help guide the State back in to fiscal sustainability and a decent economy (after 2 Dem governors)... LOST to a Democrat.
The reason? That damn tranny bathroom issue LOL And it wasn't even an issue that he took point on.
that's a fair point, but the Dems won't even have to harp on issues. its more or less "hey, we are the party that didn't collude with the russians".
that's how a select number of GOP guys will save their careers. the ones who fenced ride and/or didn't endorse trump? the few, the proud lol. they will be able to save their asses. the party itself though, that would be how the dems would shape it.
"hey, the GOP controlled everything in congress. not only did they get nothing done, but it turns out that a lot of them supported the treacherous Trump administration, who not only colluded with the russians, but deregulated businesses and the EPA, allowing companies to mine and drill more, including in areas that were designated national parks that we hold so dear in our hearts."
done.
but i do agree with you. i think congress would get swept by dems in 2018, but the generals in 2020 will be a different issue. Pence isn't running, he will get crushed, but whoever the Dems run in 2020 better be able to talk about a lot more things than "russia", because 2-3 years will be between (hypothetically of course) mueller shutting trump down and the general election.
they better be confidant that someone like Warren can win, cause Trump supporters wont forget the "pocahontas" label.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Because don't forget, the fight between Trump and the establishment is real.
Could you cite specific differences?
Because from where I'm sitting, Trump is more or less an uwitting puppet of the "establishment". He champions whatever they do, and while he's a malfunctioning puppet who derails their plans with his mouth, he's behind their proposals (and vice versa).
It seems to me like this Trump v. Establishment battle is one of couth - so you end up with guys like Flake who say things like "I think the president is vulgar", but vote with him at a 96% clip.
What, specifically, is at odds policy-wise between Trump and the establishment?
The border wall would be the first thing that comes to mind. The proposition toward amnesty or measures short of building a physical wall have been viewed as an establishment position.
Taxes... I don't think it's so much the back and forth in the language that is the real issue, I think it's Congress's wanting to drag it out mainly to prevent him from getting a 'win'.
I think it's important to note that I find it interesting when you said something to the effect that Hillary is more Republican anyway... funny thing is, a lot of people characterize the GOP establishment as being Democrat lite in light of their repeated going along with the Dem agenda in spite of their own 'tough' talk against it.
On a side note: healthcare... I honestly think this is an area Trump doesn't give a damn what the final plan looks like. I think above all he'll sign off anything that looks like a workable deal simply for the sake of getting credit for having overseen "a deal".
As to the psychology of how and why Trump got elected, I've made a few long posts n the past prior to your arrival about it. I may find the time to put together another one. It's deeper than the low hanging fruit of Trump is a manifestation of the uneducated and closet racists.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
On a more serious note, there was a Democratic strategy (I know... bear with me here) that was revealed as part of the Wikileaks releases, where Hillary Clinton's campaign team sought to elevate the status of Donald Trump and a couple Republicans that they felt would be too 'extreme' to win in a general election. We'll go easy on them and just say that backfired spectacularly.
![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/fkjZc8B/Bull-Dawg-Sig-smaller.jpg)
![[Linked Image from s2.excoboard.com]](http://s2.excoboard.com/forums/25521/user/302752/484538.gif)