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So are we just gonna ignore the fact that Kia has shot up in popularity here in America? They are absolutely everywhere.

Once again, a foreign brand has come here and taken over.

Kia tops J.D. Power initial quality survey. See how other cars rank

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/car...tudy/103050990/

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the list is dominated by foreign brands and expensive US brands:

11 Most Reliable Car Brands

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/most-reliable-car-brands

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Kia Ranks Highest for a Second Consecutive Year

Kia ranks highest in overall initial quality for a second consecutive year with a score of 72 PP100. Genesis (77 PP100) ranks second overall followed by Porsche (78 PP100). Ford and Ram (86 PP100) tie for fourth. Mini is the most improved brand, with owners experiencing 33 PP100 fewer problems than in 2016. Other brands with strong improvement include Ram (28 PP100 improvement), Acura (19), Volvo (18), and Ford (16).

http://www.jdpower.com/cars/articles/jd-power-studies/2017-us-initial-quality-study-results

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I'm sorry, but this is embarrassing. For you "buy american first" people, please explain to me why people should spend money on inferior American products when the foreign brands are cheaper and more reliable?

I just rented a Kia Soul to drive to Tampa and back.

It sucks.

Epically bad handling and can't accelerate worth a damn.

You couldn't pay me to buy a kia. They have some nice looking cars.

And sure they market to the hip young folk with their parachuting hamsters.

But no thanks.

I would buy a dodge anything over a kia.

you ever drove a Serento?

smooth.

No.

But I have owned lots of Dodges.

Trucks and cars.

Dodge > Kia.

but you don't represent the majority, according to the charts.

I strive to be unique. haha

My last 2 cars have been Mazda3s. Much love for mazda. I would buy that over a kia.

Mazda can at least get sporty right. Kia can't.

When I leased my Civic I was stuck between the Elantra (parent company of Kia), Veloster (parent company of Kia), Soul (Kia), and a Honda Civic.

I jumped on to that Civic due to the great 180 a month lease deal, and the lease made more sense given my living situation during the summer.

My parents own an Optima, and my sister drives a Sportage. I love those vehicles, and I even thought about my own Optima for a bit.

Lebron drives a Kia.

Lebron gets paid to drive a Kia lol

My wife bought a Sedona from Carmax about 6-7 years ago. An 06 with roughly 32k on the odometer.
She got the extended warranty for an extra $50 a month and we used it on just about everything EXCEPT the engine.

New transmission, new AC, water pump, alternator, suspension parts. You name it.

If we didn't have that, woulda lost our shirts keeping that thing on the road.

Still have it, just sunk around another $1k in the thing.

and once again foreign brands also stink up the bottom of the list as well




But look who is not that expensive and is at number 4 yep that's my BUICKS and the Lacrosse scores a perfect 5 out of 5.

Like I have been telling you for the last few years buy a Buick

Will do. Once my hair is gray, I’m wearing suspenders to hold up my shorts, while wearing black socks pulled up just below my knees, while standing on a shuffle board court in my retirement community in Bocca Raton, Florida.

My mother just bought an encore ... LOVE IT ...

Which just tells me you have not driven a Buick lately.

lol i'm not buying a buick bro. i'll buy a minivan before i do that.

Ok Mr soccer Mom

i like my lattes from starbucks, spiked with vodka.

I like taking the other soccer moms for rides in my Buick

I am preparing for a career in Politics

I haven’t. Not enough trips planned to the hearing aide clinic or denturist for me to feel the need.

Jc

With the twins on the way I need a full size, right now the finalists are the Acura mdx, Buick enclave, Ford explorer, and the new VW Atlas...

Still lots of research but I'll test drive some this weekend.

The Kia serento is a better buy over the exploder.

Too small for three kids in car seats and three adults. Explorer almost a foot longer and I worry we'd be a bit on the cramped side with the Ford as it is.

Most SUVs lose their trunk space with third row up and we need that space for strollers / luggage / groceries.

I still don't know how I'm gonna deal with two newborns at once...

Sounds like you need a minivan

Just asking

But is part of the criteria value for the price?

Not sure ab0ut Kia too much, but when I was car shopping recently (ended up buying a Chevy Malibu) some of the Hyundais really caught my eye

My driveway is a quarter mile of gravel and in the winter gets really bad. Our neighbor shares part of our drive and almost rolled their Toyota minivan leaving the driveway. While an extreme case, I would like six or more inches ground clearance because the snow and ice sits until spring.

Sounds like you need a snow plow.

Or one of these!

I have an arians snow blower, but there's limited options with gravel. You can't get down to the road surface or else you start tossing rocks

For the Cadillac I have blizzaks so I'm not at all worried. And while I'm not against a minivan the wife is adamant against one, so gotta work with what I got

sounds like you need to move.

I know you were somewhat tongue in cheek, but why would I move? Eventually I will asphalt or concrete up the driveway, it's just not a priority at the moment. Besides I'm somewhat overselling the driveway treachery, as I drove my Viper up and down it without scraping or other issues.

I'd be super sad if I had to move. We got this house for an amazing deal. The Tuscarawas river weaves through our property, I have a pool table, darts, and a 120" screened projector in my basement. It's not without it's complications, as the car hunt has attested, but nothing worth doing is ever easy!

Damn.

Late to the party, as usual.

This thread has been a blast to read. Laffs aplenty. The only think missing is the table, beers all around, and a bigass basket of hot wings.

I'm the homeboy who got to the pub late.

I mean if you didn't entertain the 1% every single night...

It's almost 6 AM. I got the table, beer, and hot wings taken care of (hey a guy needs breakfast to start his day off right) I need to hurry up and finish off this case of beer, or I am going to be late for the lunch special at the Pub down the street.




and yes I will be driving there in my BUICK. Somebody please call me later and remind me to pick up something for that Portland kid so he has something for show and tell tomorrow before he has some milk and takes a nap with the other kids.

BTW it looks like not many people in america want to buy your BMW's or your Kia's

https://www.statista.com/statistics/204354/us-light-vehicle-sales-in-september-2011-by-company/

I test drove the current/last gen buick enclave. Interior felt very dated. The new 2018 looks much sharper and in line with my Caddy. Yet I am not buying a new car for my 3 Rugrats

It’s 6am? Well at your age that means you’ve been up for a couple hours. Right? Lunch is at 10:30am. Dinner at 4:30pm. Of course after your mid day nap on the couch while watching the Price is Right. Now when do you drive that boat you call a car make sure you put those big plastic sunglasses over your other glasses so you don’t have a glare. Also, don’t forget to stop for your prescriptions, I hear Walgreens is have a sale on jumbo packs of black socks, on your way to get me something for show and tell.

I got some coloring books, crayons and play doh to contribute for their SAFE SPACE ...

I’ve heard Swish needs some more also .. can u swing by his safe place and drop some off with his name on it ...

Your a good man ... thanks bro ...

Kia have a couple cars that look ok, but I could never own one, just feel cheap to me, the only one i might possibly, gun to head consider is the new Stinger. My step dad was an FI manager for 20+ years at a GM dealership and his personal car was a Regal, you couldn't pay me enough to drive a buick, they scream old person regardless of what the tv ads and peyton manning says lol. My neighbor has a Buick Equinox..err. encore..lol. They need something in the sport class. They used to be great with the old GN and GNX. They had a chance with the Regal GS and while it looks better for sure in the 2018 facelift, still a dog even with AWD, like 5.5 seconds 0-60 with only 310hp, they have the same engine making more power in other GM cars. You can get more out of a civic now for less. I always think of Buick as GM's version of Ford's Lincoln. I'd take a MKZ over the regal.

how does this have anything to do with the discussion?

are you that lost, or was this a recent thing going on?

I had a 2012 Sorento. I thought it was less smooth than the Equinox. I also had to get a couple things replaced over the years in the car. Just left me with a feeling that some of the stuff in the car was cheap and low quality.

That being said, no problems with the power train whatsoever and we drove that thing over 120K miles.