i agree. they need something like they hyundai genesis, which has proven to be a Mustang and Camaro killer (stock wise).
they had the two door kia forte, but it wasn't really sporty. maybe they will break into that market in the next few years.
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if we are talking about cheap cars...the dodge dart..So i was looking for a beater car and had set on a genesis coupe with the 3.8, beast of a car for the money, then test drove it and you could run over a quarter and tell if it was heads or tails..didn't like it. Granted my DD at the time was a 2012 750LI, but still, so pulling back in i see a 2014 Dart with ralleye package with the 2.4 tigershark. Had like 9k miles on it. Aftermarket magnaflow etc. Drove ok and was like 8k cheaper...very definition of beater. Worst car I've ever owned.. Its been great from a reliability standpoint (35k miles in one year) but man it rides rough, severly underpowered, horrible gas mileage. 24mpg..in a 4cyl, my ZO6-25mpg...lol The exhaust always sounds like I'm trying to race because its geared funny. My biggest complaint about dodge has always been the interiors...cheap as hell. Imagine a saturn, with touchscreen.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
i agree. they need something like they hyundai genesis, which has proven to be a Mustang and Camaro killer (stock wise).
they had the two door kia forte, but it wasn't really sporty. maybe they will break into that market in the next few years.
The new stinger is going to be kia's genesis. It's got great specs for the money.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Yea dodge did a horrible job with the Dart. That car has so much potential, and was finally gonna be the domestic answer the Civic Si or the new Type-R.
There’s way too much torque steer with the dart, and the under steering is beyond annoying. And yea I agree about the interior. Cheap is an understatement.
Lol I find it hilarious you were rocking a 750 then tried to hop in the genesis. I remember when I swapped from that 1500 ram crew cab to the M6, I was ticked off about the lack of ground clearance cause I was so use to not giving a crap what I ran over in the ram.
But yea, for the stinger to be successful, they need to make sure it’s moddable. That’s one of the great things about Korean and Japanese cars, the ability to mod and not break the bank doing it.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Yea dodge did a horrible job with the Dart. That car has so much potential, and was finally gonna be the domestic answer the Civic Si or the new Type-R.
There’s way too much torque steer with the dart, and the under steering is beyond annoying. And yea I agree about the interior. Cheap is an understatement.
Lol I find it hilarious you were rocking a 750 then tried to hop in the genesis. I remember when I swapped from that 1500 ram crew cab to the M6, I was ticked off about the lack of ground clearance cause I was so use to not giving a crap what I ran over in the ram.
But yea, for the stinger to be successful, they need to make sure it’s moddable. That’s one of the great things about Korean and Japanese cars, the ability to mod and not break the bank doing it.
yeah thats whats so great about the civic, TONS of aftermarket. I had a sentra SE-r with 350z wheels and a supercharged maxima engine...talk about fast, only 2300lbs with 300hp..lol,
The biggest mistake dodge made was not releasing a SRT version of the dart. I mean the neon SRT was an amazing car and did extremely well among younger crowd. I mean you release a damn SRT magnum and caliber??? come on. The dart had the exterior asthetics. I actually had someone call my dart a sports car at the gym...i lol'd
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Loved everything about my Li, had the dual screens in the back, nightvision, side cameras. Most comfortable road trip car on earth imo. But man that 4.4 is cursed
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
The srt magnum was cool, but I thought the SRT caliber was a waste of time. The ride was already ugly to begin with, but whatever.
What made you give up the Li?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The srt magnum was cool, but I thought the SRT caliber was a waste of time. The ride was already ugly to begin with, but whatever.
What made you give up the Li?
well by 42k miles, both turbos replace, head gasket, ignition system, 3 injectors. Then at 60k started leaking gas again on the fuel rails, smell started getting inside cabin. I could understand if maybe i got a bad one, but read up on them, the 4.4 is cursed and all those issues are common. lol
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
It’s 6am? Well at your age that means you’ve been up for a couple hours.
Correct I was up at 4 am and working.
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Lunch is at 10:30am
Not today, having a late lunch at 11 am
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Dinner at 4:30pm
Nope pushing that back till 5 PM as well. It's already in the fridge just heating up leftovers from this weekend.
As far as the nap..... wrong to much to do today. The nap is on the to do list for tomorrow.
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Now when do you drive that boat you call a car make sure you put those big plastic sunglasses over your other glasses so you don’t have a glare.
Man your way off. I only wear those on the motorcycle so I won't have them on till tomorrow either
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Also, don’t forget to stop for your prescriptions, I hear Walgreens is have a sale on jumbo packs of black socks, on your way to get me something for show and tell.
My scripts are at Rite Aid, I only wear Cleveland Browns socks, and I got you a pair of shorts that fit just the way you youngins like em. Size 62 waist, and long enough for you to trip over when running from the popo
It’s 6am? Well at your age that means you’ve been up for a couple hours.
Correct I was up at 4 am and working.
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Lunch is at 10:30am
Not today, having a late lunch at 11 am
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Dinner at 4:30pm
Nope pushing that back till 5 PM as well. It's already in the fridge just heating up leftovers from this weekend.
As far as the nap..... wrong to much to do today. The nap is on the to do list for tomorrow.
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Now when do you drive that boat you call a car make sure you put those big plastic sunglasses over your other glasses so you don’t have a glare.
Man your way off. I only wear those on the motorcycle so I won't have them on till tomorrow either
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Also, don’t forget to stop for your prescriptions, I hear Walgreens is have a sale on jumbo packs of black socks, on your way to get me something for show and tell.
My scripts are at Rite Aid, I only wear Cleveland Browns socks, and I got you a pair of shorts that fit just the way you youngins like em. Size 62 waist, and long enough for you to trip over when running from the popo
I’m not as young as you think. Or as ‘urban’. Though at your advanced age everyone under 65 is a child. I’m actually 45 years old. And unlike most Americans I still have the same waist size as I did in high school, 30. No joke. So climb back into your grandpa sled and get scootin. The Rite Aid is having a 2 for 1 on denture cream, Ensure, and adult incontinence briefs.
The Kia serento is a better buy over the exploder.
Bought the wife a Kia Optima about 5 years ago.. she loves it, never had an ounce of problem with it.. good pep, drives well, fully loaded. I'd buy another Kia without question.
i just got to 50k on my m6, which has the s63 twin turbo V8. it's the 4.4 and i haven't had any problems, other than it drinks oil like it's starving to death.
i went to look at the bimmer forums, and for some reason your Li is common as hell like you said, yet for the m5 and m6's, not that much problems. i wonder if it's the build, since the 750 might as well be a yacht on wheels lol.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i just got to 50k on my m6, which has the s63 twin turbo V8. it's the 4.4 and i haven't had any problems, other than it drinks oil like it's starving to death.
i went to look at the bimmer forums, and for some reason your Li is common as hell like you said, yet for the m5 and m6's, not that much problems. i wonder if it's the build, since the 750 might as well be a yacht on wheels lol.
yeah I'm not sure. Its just weird, BMW released a CCP for the turbos, so that says something right there. Flaw. Maybe its the ECU? Sucks because other than that, the car was amazing for what it offered. I'm thinking of moving to a Mercedes S63 with the Biturbo, unless i can find a C63 Black edition. Easier finding a unicorn then to find one, and when you, they are asking 15-20k more than its worth. I really like the M4, just wish it had more pop
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
don't get the m4. the interior is sort of cheap and it will tick you off bro trust me. the SS camaro is eating those things alive on the streets right now.
if you got the new C63 amg, you'll be one of the goats in whatever area you're in, but it better be a coupe.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
don't get the m4. the interior is sort of cheap and it will tick you off bro trust me. the SS camaro is eating those things alive on the streets right now.
if you got the new C63 amg, you'll be one of the goats in whatever area you're in, but it better be a coupe.
i like the new C63's but something about that all engine 6.2 in the Black edition (507hp). It looks nasty as hell with all the body mods. Plus Weistec makes some great mods. They are getting 1000hp from the C65 V12 biturbo... I've actually toyed with the camaro as well, but the ZL1, i love the way they look and the performance is top notch, the interior seems cheap and visibility blows. I'd probably go with the GT350R first. That flat planed crank sounds nasty.
But that MB biturbo tuned right I've seen walk hellcats like it was dragging an anchor
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
you have to post pics if you grab the Benz. that thing is top notch performance.
you gonna give up the Z06 for that though?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I gave up the ZO6 last year.. I had like 4 cars so it was garage queen. So now after buying my wife a new wrangler (which 40k for a wrangler is dumb, zero comfort or convenience and the wife won't let me tinker with it) its my turn to find something new more my speed. Its one of the reasons I'm considering the new ZL1, basically a 4 seat Z06. Plus the redesign in 2017 look great, theres no mistaking the ZL1 from the standard camaro. But something about a handbuilt engine that MB does and all the R&D that goes into those engines is hard to pass up
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
the ride quality on the MB will be a ton better, and it still has those borderline useless back seats just in case.
isn't one of those MB's AWD, as well?
i was thinking about getting a wrangler for the winter time and parking the the bimmer in the garage, but i find out my joint was an absolute beast in the snow, even with it being RWD and so much power.
but the wrangler....man i want to buy one and just jack it up with a 6 inch lift and all the fun stuff. 40k tho? yikes lol
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Actually, I refused to ever buy one, but when my wife's lease was up, we were looking for something with tons of space that was cost effective. The dealer said "hey, I have a really good deal on a minivan"
I took it for a ride, what the heck - not like I was gonna buy that dang thing.
Well, 70K miles later, its still one of the best vehicles I have owned. And I have owned plenty. Dodge, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, Pontiac, Jeep, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, I have pretty much owned them all.
If you drove a van for a week, you would not want to have another vehicle, I am telling you.
the ride quality on the MB will be a ton better, and it still has those borderline useless back seats just in case.
isn't one of those MB's AWD, as well?
i was thinking about getting a wrangler for the winter time and parking the the bimmer in the garage, but i find out my joint was an absolute beast in the snow, even with it being RWD and so much power.
but the wrangler....man i want to buy one and just jack it up with a 6 inch lift and all the fun stuff. 40k tho? yikes lol
couple years ago i had a Rubicon, but 4"lift 35" MT/MTZ all new fenders, bumpers, winch you name it...was a beast...except for the shoddy 3.8L minivan engine jeep used...had like 180HP at the crank. So had to put 5.22 gears in just so it woulndn't keep downshifting on the highway..PITA. This wrangler has the new pentastar with 285hp. Plenty now. But yeah, the wrangler to me is the ultimate 4wd, I've seen them go through feet of snow like it wasnt anything. I'm thinking of picking up a surplus M998 and do a 4L80E transmission swap on it so i can street it.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
preaching to the choir will! I just can't convince my wife of such things, and as I'm sure you know, what the boss wants is what the boss gets!
Actually my wife was the one more against buying it, and after 2 weeks I caught her looking online for her next one. she does a lot of craft shows etc, and we have a little one, so the space and ability to load it up to the brim makes life sooooo much simpler.
ahh yea, perhaps my post was vague. I am OK with a minivan, my wife told me under no circumstances does she want a minivan.
She'd rather have a Dodge Power Wagon if money was no object, which I think is silly to put little children into, but I have owned my share of unpractical vehicles so I'm not in a position to bring these issues up a whole lot
ahh yea, perhaps my post was vague. I am OK with a minivan, my wife told me under no circumstances does she want a minivan.
She'd rather have a Dodge Power Wagon if money was no object, which I think is silly to put little children into, but I have owned my share of unpractical vehicles so I'm not in a position to bring these issues up a whole lot
gotcha, I read it as you wanted to get one and she didn't.
I have a civic right now, she has the caravan. I also have a motorcycle that I ride in the summer. I am perfectly ok with her having a minivan, as my next vehicle will be a Challenger.
I know, and I know I'm a hard one to shop for. It was much worse in the past when I only wanted to drive cars with a stick shift. I've backed off on that more recently though
Thanks for all of the input, and if I end up having to go the new car route, the new enclave is a contender, as is the VW Atlas.
Just let me know which way you want to go and I will do my best to get you the dealers cost, and the best bank rate offered available. Anything I can do to save you a few bucks would be my pleasure bud.
