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J/C Anyone who thinks we should "Respond in kind" and "turn NK into a Glass parking lot" is woefully misinformed or absolutely positively INSANE! Do folks even understand what a "small regional nuclear war" could do to humanity? Don't take my word for it, take it from an expert: https://www.globalzero.org/blog/how-many-nukes-would-it-take-render-earth-uninhabitableMichael Mills, an atmospheric scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado and the study's lead author, summarized it best: n the 1980s, we learned that global thermonuclear war could render the planet close to uninhabitable. Now, we know that even [regional] nuclear war can cause great suffering worldwide, with potential for a lot of people to die from starvation in regions very far from a conflict.A 2014 report published in the journal Earth's Future found that even a regional war of 100 nuclear detonations would produce 5 teragrams of black soot (that's 5,000,000,000 kg!) that would rise up to Earth's stratosphere and block sunlight. This would produce a sudden drop in global temperatures that could last longer than 25 years and temporarily destroy much of the Earth's protective ozone layer. This could also cause as much as an 80% increase in UV radiation on Earth's surface and destroy both land and sea-based ecosystems, potentially leading to global nuclear famine. Do you understand even a small region such conflict will kill MILLIONS! Your not just going to sit at home and watch this nonsense unfold on TV, your most likely going to get sick and die, or your going to die of stavation, tainted water, etc even if your many thousands of miles away from the conflict, hell even if your on the oppositie side of the freaking world...imagine 25 years of no sunlight.. I mean have people really lost their flipping minds!? is the average US voter really this uneducated and stupid to think something like this would happen and they would just carry on life as normal? LOL!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!! if people think this we are so screwed.....so screwed....
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Underfunded ? Wow . Ya might want to check budget numbers . The military budget has nothing to do with what the THADD system gets directly from that budget. You might want to take an accounting lesson. The military budget YUGEEEEE, the funds for the THADD system, grossly under funded. That was on Obama btw.
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J/C Anyone who thinks we should "Respond in kind" and "turn NK into a Glass parking lot" is woefully misinformed or absolutely positively INSANE! Do folks even understand what a "small regional nuclear war" could do to humanity? Don't take my word for it, take it from an expert: https://www.globalzero.org/blog/how-many-nukes-would-it-take-render-earth-uninhabitableMichael Mills, an atmospheric scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado and the study's lead author, summarized it best: n the 1980s, we learned that global thermonuclear war could render the planet close to uninhabitable. Now, we know that even [regional] nuclear war can cause great suffering worldwide, with potential for a lot of people to die from starvation in regions very far from a conflict.A 2014 report published in the journal Earth's Future found that even a regional war of 100 nuclear detonations would produce 5 teragrams of black soot (that's 5,000,000,000 kg!) that would rise up to Earth's stratosphere and block sunlight. This would produce a sudden drop in global temperatures that could last longer than 25 years and temporarily destroy much of the Earth's protective ozone layer. This could also cause as much as an 80% increase in UV radiation on Earth's surface and destroy both land and sea-based ecosystems, potentially leading to global nuclear famine. Do you understand even a small region such conflict will kill MILLIONS! Your not just going to sit at home and watch this nonsense unfold on TV, your most likely going to get sick and die, or your going to die of stavation, tainted water, etc even if your many thousands of miles away from the conflict, hell even if your on the oppositie side of the freaking world...imagine 25 years of no sunlight.. I mean have people really lost their flipping minds!? is the average US voter really this uneducated and stupid to think something like this would happen and they would just carry on life as normal? LOL!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!! if people think this we are so screwed.....so screwed.... I am just curious, wouldn't this have happened countless times, like every time we tested a nuke or every time Russia tested one, etc ? or would have happened when we bombed the Japanese in WWII?
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It mentions 100 nuclear explosions, not 1 or 2.
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It mentions 100 nuclear explosions, not 1 or 2. you do realize that if 100 nukes go off, the soot and what happens to the environment is a non issue right? there would not be life left to care....
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I'm just pointing out what the article said when you asked the question. Also, it say "regional" meaning even if it wasn't a world-wide dispersion of nukes, it could have substantial impact that goes way beyond just that region.
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Underfunded ? Wow . Ya might want to check budget numbers . The military budget has nothing to do with what the THADD system gets directly from that budget. You might want to take an accounting lesson. The military budget YUGEEEEE, the funds for the THADD system, grossly under funded. That was on Obama btw. Trump has repeatedly stated that South Korea should pay for their Billion Dollar THADD system, while the National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster has reassured South Korea that America will pay for a missile defense system, according to an official from the key U.S. ally.  That's on Trump, who is not even on the same chapter let alone the same page with his own NSA.
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Trump just said that NK is getting hit with new sanctions.
Oh man, that’s really gonna get them in line now!!!
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Trump just said that NK is getting hit with new sanctions.
Oh man, that’s really gonna get them in line now!!! Right, especially since all the other sanctions have stopped them so far. What's your answer? Do nothing?
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We’ve been over this already.
Other than war, he’s not gonna stop until he has a working trump card: which is his nukes.
So what else do you do except what we’ve been doing before trump? Isolate them, ignore the trash talk.
But trump decided to engage in the trash talk. So I dunno.
But is going to war the best option? You aren’t just betting on American lives at that point. You’re betting on NK, SK, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese,and other lives.
Anyway, I’ve stated plenty of times what I would do. But others want to bang on the drums of war so. This is a conservative decision since y’all run the country. Choose wisely.
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See, I don't see this as a conservative issue.
We've sanctioned them and sanctioned them and it hasn't worked. But now, with Trump wanting more sanctions - you know, the sanctions you were fine with when a different president did it - you try to belittle Trump.
So, since sanctions haven't worked, even from other presidents - let's toss those out, ok?
Ignore lil kim, right? I'm fine with that.
In the past, that's also what we've done.
Attacking/war is - well, shouldn't be an option in my opinion.
China is a little concerned about this latest test also from what I read.
You think Trump's tweets are/were the deciding factor in lil kim doing this? Really?
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when did i say just the tweets?
stop spreading false narratives.
Trump has helped escalate this situation and that can't even be disputed. from his tweets, to sending a fleet to the korean peninsula - which by the way, ended up making the US look like fools seeing as it wasn't even heading in the direction to begin with - to the constant issue of mixed signals and messages coming from the state department compared to the oval.
and this is what you voted for. so i certainly see this as a conservative/GOP issue, especially since a growing amount of trump supporters want to go to war with NK.
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I know what I would do if Rocketman Nuked our Nations Capital...
Die.
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Anyway, I’ve stated plenty of times what I would do. But others want to bang on the drums of war so. This is a conservative decision since y’all run the country. Choose wisely.
Please, state your opinion on what to do 1 more time. See, you always do this kind of thing when questioned: It's "I've already answered that weeks ago/months ago, etc. I asked you what you would do in this situation, currently. Things have changed since you last answered. And it's NOT a conservative/liberal or rep/dem issue. It's an ISSUE.
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i'm good. as my answer hasn't changed. there's a search function. have at it.
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So, you have no answer. Thanks.
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i have already answered the question before. you can't spin your way out of this.
the problem is that YOU don't know what you would do in the situation, and are only looking for me to answer so you can respond to that, while avoiding to come up with your own solutions.
the search function is there. use it.
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I'm not interested in fighting or arguing with you.
I asked you a simple question, and you refuse to answer and hide behind the "I already answered it" thing, which is so common for you.
And, you tried to turn it into a conservative issue to boot. I'll bet if O or hillary were still/currently president, the more sanctions thing would be fine with you.
That's fine. You supposedly answered the question months ago, or years ago, and you don't want to answer it today.
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Underfunded ? Wow . Ya might want to check budget numbers . The military budget has nothing to do with what the THADD system gets directly from that budget. You might want to take an accounting lesson. The military budget YUGEEEEE, the funds for the THADD system, grossly under funded. That was on Obama btw. Trump has repeatedly stated that South Korea should pay for their Billion Dollar THADD system, while the National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster has reassured South Korea that America will pay for a missile defense system, according to an official from the key U.S. ally.  That's on Trump, who is not even on the same chapter let alone the same page with his own NSA. Once again, reading is your friend. If NK launches a missile, and the THADD system cannot intercept it, Obama has blood on his hands. Thanks a lot Obama. It is for these reasons that the Obama Administration’s proposed budget for the missile defense program for fiscal year (FY) 2014 and beyond is so strangely disconnected from its recent announcements. According to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the new budget proposes to reduce the already inadequate missile defense budget of a bit more than $10.3 billion in FY 2012 to $9.7 billion in FY 2013, and down further to less than $9.2 billion in FY 2014.[2] Worse, the lower funding levels do not reflect the application of automatic spending reductions, called sequestration, in either FY 2013 or FY 2014. Sequestration, which applies a reduction of roughly 9 percent to the requested level across all applicable missile defense programs, projects, and activities, is already under way in FY 2013. Link
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I wonder what will come of the emergency security council meeting.
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I despise war bro, but I think it's time to hit NK in the mouth. SK, Japan, China and Russia need to agree to the US taking action, then we need to take some action.
Or we just recognize them as a nuclear power and back off sanctions... This option would be hard to swallow but would probably pacify NK.
Tough situation and don't think our President has what it takes to "deal" with it.
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I think things are going just fine for now. Rocketman knows if he goes to far, he dies. Lots of talk but nobody got hurt yet. 
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That’s what I’ve advocated.
Sometimes just dealing with it is better than war.
What will lead to more destruction? Them being a nuclear power, or us stopping them from being one by force?
Quite the problem. But I rather deal with a nuclear NK than millions dying and nukes being used anyway.
Nobody can convince me they are more dangerous than Pakistan, who is also a nuclear state.
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I think things are going just fine for now. Rocketman knows if he goes to far, he dies. Lots of talk but nobody got hurt yet. I think you are taking him to lightly. Kim wants to be legitimized. He wants the sanctions lifted. He wants to know his dictatorship is safe. Personally I think he has limits but will continue to provoke until he has nukes capable of hitting anywhere. At that point, he will be ruthless to get what he wants. We can't allow him to gt to that point IMHO, and he's dangerously close now.
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I think things are going just fine for now. Rocketman knows if he goes to far, he dies. Lots of talk but nobody got hurt yet. I think you are taking him to lightly. Kim wants to be legitimized. He wants the sanctions lifted. He wants to know his dictatorship is safe. Personally I think he has limits but will continue to provoke until he has nukes capable of hitting anywhere. At that point, he will be ruthless to get what he wants. We can't allow him to gt to that point IMHO, and he's dangerously close now. OCD, I agree. Once he gets nukes, he will want this or will shoot a nuke, then he will want that and shoot a nuke. post a picture of me in a movie, I will shoot a nuke. Make a remark on twitter, i will shoot nuke. We see what he is capable of doing to his own people, what makes anyone think he would not shoot a nuke off to others is beyond me.
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First , he has nukes ...the delivery system is what he is working on . Kim has the capability to make SK glow if he so desired . If he reeeeaaaly wanted to there is in fact nothing we could do to save SK and our servicemen stationed there . Just artillery and conventional rockets would lay waste to Millions but that means instant failure to exist on his part and Kim loves him some Kim .Of course he wants sanctions lifted and this is all in attempt to get that done ( not gonna happen ) he is playing a game of brinkmanship hoping that Trump will blink . It's a lot easier to bargain when you have a chip that big .
On the other hand there is a possibility that the man is just that damned crazy so in that case the result is already inevitable.
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Kim obviously couldn't care less about domestic issues/problems. The 105 story Ryugyong Hotel in the center of Pyongyang was supposed to be finished over 10 years ago. It just sits there unfinished. 
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You asked everyone here what their plan was to deal with it. Where's your plan to take Lil Kim out? Mmmm? You like to blast others and their ideas here but give no solution yourself. Typical
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You asked everyone here what their plan was to deal with it. Where's your plan to take Lil Kim out? Mmmm? You like to blast others and their ideas here but give no solution yourself. Typical Once again...reading is your friend  Reply to SWISH...... did I say anything about starting a nuclear war? Nope. Nice try tho again at putting words into someone elses mouth.
I immediately call a meeting with Armed forces heads, gather all data on this missile test. I then have a meeting with China and SK. Its time Un is held accountable for terrorizing the world. Seal Team 6 I am sure is ready to go. Get in, take him out. Free millions of NK citizens from oppression and starvation. Funny, you are against "oppression" yet do not care what happens to NK citizens under RocketMan. Where did "blast" anyone on this thread?
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You want to know how irrelevant your post is?
This is my first time being aware of your reply to me.
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your entitled to your opinion swish, however your OPINION doesn't change the fact your boy spiral cant read and once again is proven false and adding nothing constructive but lies.
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PS can read perfectly fine.
Unlike your boy retweeting fake new stories about Muslims.
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PS can read perfectly fine.
Unlike your boy retweeting fake new stories about Muslims. if he can hes better at hiding than Hillary is at sending an email.
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PS can read perfectly fine.
Unlike your boy retweeting fake new stories about Muslims. if he can hes better at hiding than Hillary is at sending an email. At least she’s better at hiding emails than trump is hiding his collusion with Russians.
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Meh, no harm, no foul.
If Rocketman wishes to check out of this world, just send us a message we can respond to.
Otherwise...Meh.
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