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Yes, it is way too early for any of these to be anything resembling accurate (Not that they necessarily are ever that accurate)

I was just trying to get a feel for who was projected where and ran through a simulation on fanspeak. It's highly unlikely to happen, but I'd probably not know what to do with myself if it did-even if I did have to settle for Rosen at 8 with Jackson gone sooner.

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I should probably try running it with a different big board rather than the default b/c I feel like the guys I got will be long gone before the spots I was able to get them.

I like Minkah a lot......not at #1, but I suppose it doesn't really matter.....Minkah and Rosen 1-2 works for me. The order doesn't really matter.

Minkah, Denzel Ward and Courtland Sutton are the only people (so far) I would even consider taking with our second first round pick. I think they'll all be elite at the next level.

The others are not any better...I went a completely different route on this one - not that we need Chubb, or not that I want him, just thinking bookend pass rushers. I know Darnold isn't likely to enter the draft by he was available. I count up to 6 first rounders depending on the site you look at...

1: R1P1 DE BRADLEY CHUBB NC STATE
8: R1P8 S MINKAH FITZPATRICK ALABAMA
33: R2P1 QB SAM DARNOLD USC
40: R2P8 CB DENZEL WARD OHIO ST.
64: R2P32 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME
65: R3P1 OT JAMARCO JONES OHIO ST.
103: R4P1 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD
126: R4P24 LB JOSEY JEWELL IOWA
139: R5P1 CB IMAN MARSHALL USC
163: R5P25 DT DRE'MONT JONES OHIO ST.
180: R6P1 WR MICHAEL GALLUP COLORADO ST.
223: R7P1 TE DURHAM SMYTHE NOTRE DAME

I have to laugh at all of these mock drafts... Sam Darnold lasting to the second round has about a much chance as the sun rising in the west tomorrow.

Really hate I'm doing this in early December, but what the hell..

Your score is: 15207 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 7: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 13 (ARI): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 19 (K.C.): Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (B)
Round 4 Pick 6 (CHI): Sony Michel, RB, Georgia (B-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Chris Worley, ILB, Ohio State (B-)

Just stopping by this thread for a single comment. I hate these mock drafts. Not mock drafts in general. I love a good mock draft. But these are wack. I so often see players who are projected to go in the 1st round getting drafted in the 2nd, sometime 3rd round. It creates unrealistic expectation.

Yippee!! Our Superbowl is just around the corner again! Sure hope we win this time.

of course.

Playing cute taking a QB 8, yeah right. If you don't take the QB you want at 1, he isn't worth 8 either.

Honestly, I was more worried about Fitzpatrick not making it to 8. I think he's more of a sure thing than the QBs, and at a position we're really lacking.

Rosen was just value at 8.

I agree with people complaining about how unrealistic these drafts are. I'm not a fan of whatever board/algorithm combo this is using.

In keeping with the absurd:

Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 10 (T.B.): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 7: Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 10 (T.B.): Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado (C+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Quin Blanding, FS, Virginia (C+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (T.B.): Deon Cain, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (B+)
Round 4 Pick 27: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jaylen Samuels, FB, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Auden Tate, WR, Florida State (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Cortez Broughton, DT, Cincinnati (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Justin Yoon, K, Notre Dame (A)

or

Round 1 Pick 1: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California (A)
Round 1 Pick 7: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 7: Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Jordan Whitehead, FS, Pittsburgh (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jaylen Samuels, FB, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Jordan Thomas, CB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Auden Tate, WR, Florida State (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

I think we package a lot of picks this year to move up and get the guys we want.. We've built the depth of our team. We can't continue to draft 10 guys each year.. We'll be forced to start cutting a lot of draft picks.

1. Josh Rosen

5. A) Minkah Fitzpatrick - DB Alabama B) Derwin James - DB FSU C) Trade down and pick up Denzel Ward or Courtland Sutton

2A) Mike Hughes - CB UCF/Josh Jackson - CB Iowa /Iman Marshall - CB USC or Deshon Elliot - FS Texas
2B) Parris Campbell/Equanimeous St. Brown
2C) Oren Burks ILB Vanderbilt

3) Marquis Haynes - DE Ole Miss

4A) LJ Scott - RB MSU/Ralph Webb - RB Vanderbilt
4B) Azeem Victor - ILB Washington/ Jake Cichy - ILB Wisconsin

That's just an idea of a mock draft. That is just where I think the players might go. I'd go further into the draft, but it gets nigh impossible to even start to predict who will fall and rise in the last 2-3 rounds before draft season starts.

2018 NFL Mock Draft WalterFootball

1). Cleveland Browns: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
The Browns attempted to trade for A.J. McCarron and failed because they forgot to submit the paperwork. This secretly saved them, as I discussed in the NFL Disaster Grades. Cleveland could try to obtain McCarron again, but it really depends on what the new regime will want to do.

DeShone Kizer showed promise during the preseason, but he hasn't shown many signs that he can be a viable NFL quarterback. Despite getting good protection, Kizer has made lots of mistakes and has held on to the ball too long in the pocket. He played somewhat well versus the Lions, but that was just one game. Kizer was only a second-round pick, anyway, and we saw the Panthers give up on Jimmy Clausen, another second-rounder, after one year when they selected Cam Newton first overall.

I've had Sam Darnold as the top quarterback for a while, but he has struggled so much this season that I'm wondering if he returns to USC for 2018 in an attempt to rebuild his draft stock. Lamar Jackson occupied this top spot for about a month, but I'm moving to Josh Rosen following his terrific performance against USC.

NFL coaches and owners are wary of the sort of things Rosen has discussed to the media, and his open views could hurt him. Scouts have told us that his teammates don't like him either, so that's a major strike against him. And for the cherry on top, even if his high school coach criticized him. However, Rosen has been prolific in some big games this year, so that could push him into the top spot.

7). Cleveland Browns: Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
The Browns have the foundation for a great defensive front, but they need another talent next to Danny Shelton. Da'Ron Payne would certainly qualify.

Payne, a freak athlete, has a chance to be chose in the top five - I considered him to Cincinnati at No. 5 a couple of weeks ago - so he makes sense with the seventh pick.

33). Cleveland Browns: Damien Harris, RB, Alabama
The Browns could easily spend the first-overall pick on Saquon Barkley. If they don't, they'll need someone else to upgrade the disappointing Isaiah Crowell.

40). Cleveland Browns: DeShon Elliott, S, Texas
The Browns have been extremely weak against the pass this season because of some horrible safety play. They're stuck with Jabrill Peppers for a couple more years, but they also need a new starter next to him.

62). Cleveland Browns: Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State
Jamie Collins hasn't lived up to expectations thus far, and he's getting paid more than $10 million in each of the next couple of seasons. The Browns could decide to go healthier and cheaper.

first two rounds.

Here's one I like. I bought Fanspeak Premium to see if it might be a little more realistic. I don't know if that's the case (hard to imagine Ward & Sutton being there that late), but this draft would work for me:

1: R1P1 QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA

8: R1P8 S MINKAH FITZPATRICK ALABAMA

33: R2P1 WR CHRISTIAN KIRK TEXAS A&M

40: R2P8 CB DENZEL WARD OHIO STATE

61: R2P29 WR COURTLAND SUTTON SMU

65: R3P1 LB SHAUN DION HAMILTON ALABAMA

103: R4P1 RB SONY MICHEL GEORGIA

124: R4P22 DL MICHAEL HILL OHIO STATE

139: R5P1 C NICK LINDER MIAMI (FL)

163: R5P25 TE MARCUS BAUGH OHIO STATE

180: R6P1 EDGE PORTER GUSTIN USC

223: R7P1 OT IKE BOETTGER IOWA

I just ran one on fanspeak as well, just regular and not premium and used fanspeak's big board. Looks like they need to do some updating based on pretty much every other listing I've seen thus far. Don't get me wrong, I'll take 5 rounds of 1st/2nd rounders

1: R1P1 FS MINKAH FITZPATRICK ALABAMA
5: R1P5 EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB NORTH CAROLINA STATE
33: R2P1 RB DERRIUS GUICE LSU
37: R2P5 CB DENZEL WARD OHIO STATE
63: R2P31 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME
65: R3P1 TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA
103: R4P1 OT CHUKWUMA OKORAFOR WESTERN MICHIGAN
126: R4P24 ILB JOSEY JEWELL IOWA
140: R5P1 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE
164: R5P25 CB DEATRICK NICHOLS SOUTH FLORIDA
179: R6P1 OLB DAVIN BELLAMY GEORGIA
220: R7P1 DT MICHAEL HILL OHIO STATE

lol, I know. I play around with the different boards to see if that makes a difference, sometimes it does. I also use random or multiple boards for the other teams to mix it up, that makes it a little more realistic. Just did one where Rosen, Barlkey & Minkah went 1, 2, 3. No way to get two of the three even with the 5th pick.

1: R1P1
QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA

5: R1P5
EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB NORTH CAROLINA STATE

33: R2P1
WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA

37: R2P5
CB LEVI WALLACE
ALABAMA

63: R2P31
RB NICK CHUBB GEORGIA

65: R3P1
CB JALEN DAVIS
UTAH STATE

103: R4P1
G WILL HERNANDEZ UTEP


126: R4P24
WR TREY QUINN SMU

140: R5P1
CB DONTE JACKSON LSU

164: R5P25
S ANDREW WINGARD WYOMING

179: R6P1
DL DA'SHAWN HAND ALABAMA

220: R7P1
C COLEMAN SHELTON WASHINGTON

I guess it is that time of year again.


Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 6: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Michael Hill, DT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18: Tyrone Crowder, OG, Clemson (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Bentley Spain, OT, North Carolina (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Chikwe Obasih, DE, Wisconsin (B+)

Just ran one on the pro version with updates. First three picks are exactly like your first draft. WRs, check. Secondary, check. Running back, check. Franchise QB, check. Let's go!

1: R1P1
CB MINKAH FITZPATRICK
ALABAMA

5: R1P5
QB JOSH ROSEN
UCLA

33: R2P1
RB DERRIUS GUICE
LSU

37: R2P5
WR COURTLAND SUTTON
SMU

63: R2P31
CB JALEN DAVIS
UTAH STATE

65: R3P1
WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN
NOTRE DAME

103: R4P1
CB ISAIAH OLIVER
COLORADO

126: R4P24
S QUIN BLANDING
VIRGINIA

140: R5P1
LB KENDALL JOSEPH
CLEMSON

164: R5P25
DL REGINALD MCKENZIE
TENNESSEE

179: R6P1
OT CASEY TUCKER
STANFORD

220: R7P1
WR AUDEN TATE
FLORIDA STATE

rosen lasting to 5 is a dream haha, i'll take it

You have to use the difficult settings. Don't use the standard....it tightens things up a great deal.

You end up with this.


QB JOSH ROSEN
UCLA
5: R1P5
S DERWIN JAMES
FLORIDA STATE
33: R2P1
CB ISAIAH OLIVER
COLORADO
37: R2P5
WR CALVIN RIDLEY
ALABAMA
63: R2P31
LB JEROME BAKER
OHIO STATE
65: R3P1
WR COURTLAND SUTTON
SMU
103: R4P1
CB DUKE DAWSON
FLORIDA
126: R4P24
WR DEON CAIN
CLEMSON
140: R5P1
RB MYLES GASKIN
WASHINGTON
164: R5P25
CB TONY BROWN
ALABAMA
179: R6P1
S DOMINICK SANDERS
GEORGIA
220: R7P1
LB NICK DELUCA
NORTH DAKOTA STATE

Rosen, James, Oliver, Ridley and Sutton in the Top 65 picks?

That's tightening up? LoL

LOL..ok, maybe not.

Difficult with Random big boards:

1: R1P1
QB JOSH ROSEN
UCLA

5: R1P5
S DERWIN JAMES
FLORIDA STATE

33: R2P1
CB DENZEL WARD
OHIO STATE

37: R2P5
WR CALVIN RIDLEY
ALABAMA

63: R2P31
OT ANDRE DILLARD
WASHINGTON STATE

65: R3P1
WR D.J. MOORE
MARYLAND

103: R4P1
RB JOSH ADAMS
NOTRE DAME

126: R4P24
S QUIN BLANDING
VIRGINIA

140: R5P1
CB MIKE HUGHES
UCF

164: R5P25
LB JEROME BAKER
OHIO STATE

179: R6P1
DL DA'SHAWN HAND
ALABAMA

220: R7P1
WR AUDEN TATE
FLORIDA STATE

I just disagree on the back in round 1. There are a load of great backs we could take in round 2 or 3.

You also have to understand, that as of now, we have a coach who doesn't call enough running plays.

OK..that can be fixed, but look at the backs past Barkley. There are loads of them. I don't think Barkley is so good that you couldn't get similar production from some of the others at a lower draft slot.

JMO

Your score is: 17382 (GRADE: B) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 6: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6: Hercules Mataafa, OLB, Washington State (B)
Round 2 Pick 31: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (B)
Round 5 Pick 18: Auden Tate, WR, Florida State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B)
Round 7 Pick 1: Dominick Sanders, FS, Georgia (C-)

Your score is: 17037 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6: Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (B)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Hercules Mataafa, OLB, Washington State (B)
Round 2 Pick 31: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 27: Ike Boettger, OT, Iowa (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18: Cece Jefferson, DE, Florida (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: David Bright, OT, Stanford (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Dominick Sanders, FS, Georgia (C-)

Your score is: 16929 (GRADE: B-) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6: Harold Landry, OLB/DE, Boston College (B+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (B-)
Round 2 Pick 31: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Ike Boettger, OT, Iowa (A-)
Round 5 Pick 18: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B)
Round 7 Pick 1: Dominick Sanders, FS, Georgia (C-)

Mayfield in the early second is a B-.

So who are you giving up, Kizer or the Veteran?

Here's mine:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (B)
Round 2 Pick 32: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Michael Hill, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jaylen Samuels, FB, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Iman Marshall, CB, Southern California (A+)

I would let Kizer battle with the other 2 rookies and bring in a Vet to help the 2 left standing ...

Baker Mayfield will be a top 5 pick... 4th round? Not happening barring major injury or the like...

Good draft, I like the Mike Gesicki and the Michael Hill picks