DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Breaking News. Flynn Charged with lying to the FBI

They are going to get Kushner and Don Jr. on collusion for their interactions with the Russians and wikileaks. They will also show how Russia used social media to aide Trump in the election. Then they will get Trump on at least obstruction of Justice, violation of the Logan act, and collusion if one of the boys give him up as ordering it. I think Kushner will be singing very loudly. He will not fare well in prison.

So at the end of the day you will be wrong as usual. Please stop defending these people 40, you can be better. Maybe if you're lucky Pence will survive this.

Comments like that are the reason that even reasonable southerners hate you.

So this article cover why Trump shouldn't pardon Flynn and how it looks very bad for him. I think they are in a world of hurt and things will happen fast over the next couple months.

http://www.newsweek.com/presidential-pardon-donald-trump-michael-flynn-robert-mueller-russia-728983

The Browns have a better shot at the playoffs than Trump has of being impeached.

i doubt that.

Mueller has no credible witnesses.

you sure?

anyway, report just dropped. apparently trump is upset that Flynn "turned on me".

wonder what that means.

It means Trump is upset.

Please elaborate.

You do understand that lying to a special counsel, one set out by the government, basically indicts you to multiple years of federal prison.

Mueller started with the low level officials. These officials would then say who did what on higher, they'd go a level higher to catch them in a web of lies, ask them to flip (Papa, Manafort, Flynn) or face harsher sentences.

Trump, Trump Jr., Sessions, and Kushner will be the last ones interviewed. Mueller works on catching people in webs of lies.

You lie under oath? You're seeing federal prison time.

what would he be upset about?

He is upset that a good man like Flynn made a mistake.

These "witnesses" will say anything to save their hides. Like junkies.

Going to be time to pay the Piper. Kushner won’t go to jail for the Donald.. he will sell him out in a N.Y. second.. in fact, I don’t think Mueller will offer him any deals.. Comey is going to have the grin of the Cheshire Cat.

Mueller is coming.. brick by brick

Mueller may get canned.

Now good men lie to the FBI?

Mueller is coming.

Okay.

So these witnesses most likely must present evidence to shoot down their initial lies.

I'm not sure you understand how this whole process even works.

I hope Trump is stupid enough to do that.

Lol man what?

Flynn will try to save himself, as will any other witness, by telling the prosecution what they want to hear. It is human nature.

If it is a he said/ she said ordeal, then Trump is home free.

This made me laugh haha.

No one here ever made a mistake?

I hope my friends who love The Wire or those that enjoy David Simon appreciate this meme.

No, Mueller's going.

What he did wasn’t a mistake. It was intentional.

Penny-ante Perry Masons of the political press have all day been telling you what today’s guilty plea by former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn is all about.
Depending on how you butter your partisan bread, you can choose to believe that Flynn’s plea deal means President Trump himself is soon bound for removal from office or, if you prefer, that the special prosecutor is desperate and has been reduced to trumping up criminal charges for ordinary bumbling.
Do yourself a favor and watch a “Night Court” re-run instead. You’ll glean more knowledge.

This wasn’t an answer to what I said.

How did Flynn make a mistake?

That isn't true. As a person who at the time stood a chance to be elected, he can contact forgein governments to discuss views on matters. He wasn't doing anything to subvert President Obamas policy

Even if they discussed sanctions, so what? He can have a different view then did our past President.

People keep talking about collusion. Collusion to do what?

Wrong. He did this after trump was already elected. He did this during the transition period.

No colusion, and I'm still laughin at the libs who think they got something today.

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Flynn is a good man with a lying problem.

Why did he turn himself in?

To get it over with. He'll get a slap on the wrist, and he has nothing more to testify about.

Flynn is an idiot.

As I said in another thread - Trump is a beta male's idea of an alpha male.

And he hires in suit.

So anyway, it’s telling how far ahead Mueller is on this investigation.

Flynn pleaded guilty to a lesser charge as he was already meeting with mueller and discussing situations prior to the charge. He was facing more charges, but just like George popodopolous, flipped in order to get a lesser charge.

With the reports that Flynn was directed by Kushner to make contact with Russia and others over the Israeli settlement and the sanctions, this lines up with the Kush god meeting with the mueller team last week or early this week.

This also makes trumps comments on trying to Comey to drop the investigation in Flynn, as well as asking him and 6 others to drop the Russian investigation, enlightening.

Also, with the intelligence committee recently saying that sessions refused to answer whether or not trump tried to get him to drop he investigation, then right now we have a bunch of people with zero ability to cover their tracks, clear coordination with the Russians, lying about Russian contacts, and now it’s looking more and more like Trump could get got on obstruction of justice.

We’ve heard every excuse in the book so far.

there was no contacts with Russians. False

The trump campaign didn’t have contacts with Russians. False.

The trump transition team didn’t have contacts with Russians over sanctions. False.

Kushner and Sessions saying they had no contacts with Russians. False.

Flynn had no contacts with Russians. False.

George popodopolous was a coffee boy. False.

Manafort is a good man. False.

Trump,jr had no contacts with Russians or Wikileaks. False.

Those are all facts.

So it’s becoming more and more desperate for trump and his supporters to claim their was no collusion, or that trump wasn’t aware.

Which is sad, because trumps best defense is that he was completely gullible to his staffers, and oblivious to what was going on around him.

Right now, the trump supporters are trying to claim there’s nothing to see here while we have 4 indictments, 2 guilty pleas, an AG who had to refuse himself from the investigation, and a kush god who mueller has his sights on.

At this point, there’s no reason to believe anything coming from the diehard trump supporters. I’ll be sticking with the news over any nonsense spin coming out of their mouths.

I don't, Rocket.

Mueller is the guy who watched Ray Rice coldcock a woman in an elevator and basically said "who knows? Two sides to every story".

A pertinent "Wire" analogy is Clay Davis. Trump is Clay Davis

Mark my words, Trump will walk away from this.

Fair enough, you are corrent.

My other points still stand. President's elect start swinging the bat before they take office. Pretty common, and expected.


So what was this deep collusion you keep mentioning.

It's not the collusion, it's the incompetency.