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Me too. I think his presence really opened things up for us. Njoku really benefited from having Josh on the field. We had guys open all over. We just need a qb who can throw the ball accurately.


We could trade JG for a 1 or a 2 now. Plus Kap is still avail. rolleyesdevil


No we can't. Trade deadline has passed. tongue


I thought Kaep is a FA?


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I believe he was referring to the part about trading Gordon.


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I believe he was referring to the part about trading Gordon.


Yanno, I think you're right.. but, after Sunday I want no part of trading JG. I would sign Kaep however..


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
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...no doubt, after the 2016 season, some Rams fans thought Goff would be better suited doing something other than being a NFL QB.


...then they replaced their coach and now they're in first place!


And the Browns have fired coach after coach and continue to remain in last place.

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[quote=DiamDawg]Kizer’s been SOOOOOOOOOoooooooo ACCURATE the rest of the year ... rolleyes

I dont really understand the argument that a QB thats been inaccurate all YEAR was .... INNACURATE ... what a SHOCKER .... that makes a lot of sense ... rofl


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U were involved the conversation I was reffering to ..

The menZa u were discussing with made the argument passing the ball all day long was a GOOD GAME PLAN and it didn’t work because Kizer was innacurate ...

I said it’s DUMB AS HELL to think Kizer’s all of a sudden going to turn into and accurate QB ...

U understand now? ...

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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...no doubt, after the 2016 season, some Rams fans thought Goff would be better suited doing something other than being a NFL QB.


...then they replaced their coach and now they're in first place!


And the Browns have fired coach after coach and continue to remain in last place.


One of these times we're bound to get a good one, lol.


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Josh Gordon could have had 200-yard day with more accurate passes

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-brown...accurate-passes


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He has so much talent.

So obviously the smart thing to do is trade him in the off-season.


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[quote=DiamDawg]Kizer’s been SOOOOOOOOOoooooooo ACCURATE the rest of the year ... rolleyes

I dont really understand the argument that a QB thats been inaccurate all YEAR was .... INNACURATE ... what a SHOCKER .... that makes a lot of sense ... rofl


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U were involved the conversation I was reffering to ..

The menZa u were discussing with made the argument passing the ball all day long was a GOOD GAME PLAN and it didn’t work because Kizer was innacurate ...

I said it’s DUMB AS HELL to think Kizer’s all of a sudden going to turn into and accurate QB ...

U understand now? ...

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Randall covered Gordon for most of the Packers' 27-21 overtime victory over the winless Browns and after the game said, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Gordon “had one catch. Any more questions?”

Gordon was playing in just his second game since Week 16 of the 2014 season because of an NFL suspension. He actually caught three passes for 69 yards, including an 18-yard touchdown -- his first score since Week 15 of the 2013 season --- but it came when the Packers were in zone coverage, so Randall wasn't on him.

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To which Randall, referring to Gordon's past problems with substance abuse, replied: "You must be on that s--- again”

Browns coach Hue Jackson said he doesn't want his players getting "caught up into social media bantering back and forth."

"I want us to do our talking on the field with our play, and that's where the focus needs to be," Jackson said Monday. "Because that's what it's going to take to get us to winning. Talking isn't going to do anything, and I'm sure the emotions are high. We were close to having an opportunity [to win]. We didn't finish. He didn't really make a huge catch in the second half. So I think that all stuff fuels into it."

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packe...ight-to-twitter

good for Gordon. no need to let other players talk smack for free.


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Low Blow on Randall's part, but even Randall himself knows he can't cover Gordon.


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We lost ...

Gordon was a NON FACTOR after the 1st drive .... can u say INVISIBLE ...

I pray for the kid ... that doesn’t take away from the fact hes a major DOUCHE BAG ...

HUMILITY is needed here ... not crap talking ...




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I'll watch the game again tonight.

but I don't remember him being targeted one time in the second half...If that's true then Kizer made him a non factor.


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My guess it was Hue ... Kizer locked on to his primary on most plays ...

REGARDLESS of why ... he was a NON FACTOR after the 1st series ....

He got SHUTDOWN .... 3 receptions .... Pffffft ....




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3 catches, 69 yds, and a TD

meh not bad...

I'd be happier with 6 catches to be honest.

I think just being on the field he makes us better.

18 yd TD was a hellva catch.


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oop after thought.

if it was Hue i'll be concerned with that.


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WOH WOH WOH ... back up the truck there my friend ..

I didn’t say were not better with him ... hes by far our best reciever .. its not even close ...

Just saying a 3 catch 69 yard performance with 1 td is not time to be running your mouth ...




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Yeah I agree. At this stage he should keep his head down and keep working.
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haha I get where you're coming from bro. I really do.

But at the same time, where I'm from when someone takes a shot at you, you fire back...

lol I like fire, so far he and peppers have that aggression.

I am looking for our version of James Harrison or Ray Lewis type of fire.

idk bro gets me a lil tingly lol


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
WOH WOH WOH ... back up the truck there my friend ..

I didn’t say were not better with him ... hes by far our best reciever .. its not even close ...

Just saying a 3 catch 69 yard performance with 1 td is not time to be running your mouth ...





I agree with you about the running your mouth part, but I'm also with dawgpound... I like the fire and vastly prefer shooting back (even in a loss) vs just rolling over.

Also, Gordon may not have been a factor in the second half, but Coleman was.


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oober, I think Coleman will benefit greatly from having jg across the field from him.

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Also, Gordon may not have been a factor in the second half, but Coleman was.


Which actually makes Gordon a factor. I read somewhere on here where a post said that GB adjusted to Gordon by rolling their coverage that way but we did not adjust. LOL

Well, we adjusted by not forcing the ball to Gordon and taking advantage of the one-on-coverages w/Coleman.

But, Hue is an idiot and he doesn't know how to scheme or play call. Only our half-dozen or so posters do.

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Also, Gordon may not have been a factor in the second half, but Coleman was.


Which actually makes Gordon a factor. I read somewhere on here where a post said that GB adjusted to Gordon by rolling their coverage that way but we did not adjust. LOL

Well, we adjusted by not forcing the ball to Gordon and taking advantage of the one-on-coverages w/Coleman.

But, Hue is an idiot and he doesn't know how to scheme or play call. Only our half-dozen or so posters do.


So THAT's Hue's genius? Gordon as a decoy. Got it.

Randall could only cover Gordon by holding him. Targeting a guy like Gordon only TWICE in the entire second half would be the polar opposite of 'forcing the ball'. Both of those things are equally stupid.

I'd wager that a team could triple team Gordon and roll coverage to him all day long and a halfway decent coach would still figure out how to target that guy more than two times in a half.

Hue's scheme or play call has resulted in an epic 1-28 record under his tutelage...shocking that people would be critical of him. rolleyes

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Yep. It's all Hue...


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Yeah,instead we should have had Kizer throwing into double coverage. Some posts just amaze me.


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Yeah,instead we should have had Kizer throwing into double coverage. Some posts just amaze me.


uhm you might want to reread that.

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Here is the thing..........if Hue would have targeted Gordon more, the same guys who are blasting him for NOT throwing to Gordon would be screaming that he was trying to force the ball to Gordon despite double coverage.

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j/c

How do # of targets fall on Hue? He may call the play but it's up to Kizer to determine who the ball goes to. If he wasn't open he shouldn't be throwing to him. If they're shading the safety, Kizer's making the correct reads throwing away from him. Am I missing something?


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Yes, bias from the Hue Haters.

Just kidding. You're right, Cal.

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It's no coincidence that the drop in targets to Gordon coincided with the rise in targets to Coleman and others.


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Ok, thanks, just making sure I wasn't missing some aspect of the discussion.


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Clearly, Kizer should have thrown each pass to both Coleman AND Gordon.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Here is the thing..........if Hue would have targeted Gordon more, the same guys who are blasting him for NOT throwing to Gordon would be screaming that he was trying to force the ball to Gordon despite double coverage.





Is that not what happened when last Gordon came back? And Hoyer was stuck be damned it was Gordon or nothing.

at least that is how I remember it.


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Yes.............and some of the same people blasting Hue for not throwing to Gordon in the second half last week are the same guys who were saying not to force the ball to Gordon right before he came back. LOL

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Kizer does need to force it to Gordon, especially when the other team is holding him like GB did. Kizer needs to get Gordon those PI calls so GB would stop being so handsy in their coverage.

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yea...that don't make much sense.


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yea the holding was outta control...but we don't get many of those types of calls going our way.

not even some of the blatant ones in crucial down situations.


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I think Gordon's influence allowed Coleman to have a good game. Despite what the haters say, that is good play calling.

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my man, Gordon being on the field makes all of them better lol.


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No doubt.

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