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He's never been in trouble. The only thing I know about is that he can rub people the wrong way with cockiness. He also speaks his mind, but I don't see that as a negative.

A little cockiness in a QB is alright. I don't know much about him but when they flashed his picture on screen last week I told my bro in law he looked like a... Well, he looked like "cockiness" without the "iness".

He put a jacuzzi in his dorm room.

Well at least the wealth won't go to his head since it has been there all his life... I always have trouble believing a rich boy will be willing to take the abuse to his body that the NFL dishes out.

I think Rosen's character might be being questioned a bit too much. I really haven't read anything that's been proven. Just speculation.

On the other hand, Mayfield has legit concerns--including an arrest--and those are not being talked about as much as Rosen't "supposed" flaws.

Dang it, the place I used to watch film is starting to charge money. Anyone have a free site I can use?

Peyton Manning? Drew Brees? Eli Manning? Andrew Luck? There are probably more, but those are the one off the top of my head.

Don't they pretty much all become rich boys after they are drafted? Maybe not so much anymore, but what did Sam Bradford bring in on his rookie deal?

Rosen's the flavor of the month(/day), if it cycles back to Mayfield he'll get torn down some more.

I think Rosen's stuff should be questioned. Is there such a thing as too much information when it comes to drafting a QB? There is definitely something there with Rosen. Will it matter in the grand scheme of things? It's hard to tell, but it is worrisome. If it weren't for bad luck, the Browns wouldn't have any.

He's talking about QB's coming from money. Brees's father was a lawyer with his own firm IIRC.

It makes sense that the best QBs would be from the rich class. It's a position that, at the top requires a lot of specialized training, much more than any other position in the NFL. A lot of these kids have been going to QB Camps ran by professionals since they were in 8th grade. It's honestly done a lot for the position, and why I think, QB play will be elevated in the next 5-10 years.

UCLA versus Cal coming up

Beautiful back shoulder fade by Rosen for a TD. Threw it where only his receiver could catch it.

And then he didn't come out for the second half after being slammed to the ground...another concussion?

I think a shoulder. That was a nasty hit.

For the manning's football is family pride and all they know. Plus archie didn't make them that rich. It's one of the reason Peyton works to create so much wealth. He will end up a billionaire before too long. Andrew has been awful slow to come back from injury lately. He knows it ain't worth it right now and he hasn't held up all that well either. I honestly don't know anything about the brees's family so won't comment on them.

The point still remains that a rich boy from a rich family is less likely to tough it out unless there is a real love or pride for football on the line because the NEED to earn money from football is not as urgent. I'm not saying they wouldn't, just that they are less likely too.

And, of course, you can prove this somehow?

Its entirely up to the individual. Their circumstances of wealth has no influences on their ability to overcome

jc

Left in the first half last night - probably a concussion, missed a game earlier this month with a concussion... missed six games last year with a shoulder injury. Starting to think this cat won't hold up in the NFL.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...acks-first-half

It's almost like he has a horrible offensive line or something. . .

Josh Rosen went on the field with all the seniors at senior night last night. I think it's safe to say he's leaving school.

After hearing it called a vicious hit, I expected it to look worse. Honestly, I thought it looked pretty innocuous.

The thought of playing for Chip Kelly trumped the threat of playing for the Browns.

I am coming around on Rosen some. I think my biggest problem with him was that my first exposure to him was when I was watching Myles Garrett and he had that terrible Weeden-esque flipper pick.

I still question the attitude stuff some, but it might be more the rubs you wrong variety than dealbreaker. He kind of reminds of Tom Brady on the field and in the somewhat rubbing me wrong way. I'd obviously take Brady as my QB.

Still think Lamar Jackson is underappreciated, but they might both be good.

The thing I really like about Rosen is that he's already answered questions that nobody else in this draft can answer. Can he work from under center? Yes. Can he adapt to a pro style offense? Yes. Can he work through his progressions? Yes. Can he make all of the throws? Yes.

And the HUGE one! Can he read a defense post snap. Yes!

Now this doesn't mean that nobody else in this draft will not be able to do this. It's possible that they can. But the problem is, it will be found that some, actually most won't be able to do some of these things. That's always the gamble you take when drafting someone that doesn't come from a pro style system.

He's proven to be an excellent QB in the pro style system. It makes him the lowest risk and most NFL ready QB in this draft. I know this debate will rage on, but this is my opinion on this years QB crop.

QFT!

The two TD passes he threw vs. Cal were really pretty. In both cases, the defender had no chance.

I agree with you. Thus far I've seen people throw some stuff against the wall about Rosen, but nothing that would preclude me from drafting him at this point. But it's a long time until draft day.

Most of the stuff on Rosen is "draft" guys dropping hints about teammates not liking him. My question is how much of this information is coming from college folks who didn't like the fact that Rosen challenged the sham of "student-athletes" earlier this year.

I agree he needs to be vetted (like every other NFL prospect), but unless something concrete comes up about him he is by far the #1 pick imo......no brainer really.

I'm really back and forth on the worries about Rosen. I think we're still stinging from the Manziel pick.

Is Rosen's attitude going to prevent him from preparing like an NFL QB should? Manziel had this issue in spades. This is the main question that I'd like to see answered.

Is Rosen's attitude going to interfere with him working well with his teammates? This one I'm not so worried about. As long as he doesn't suck it up on the field, you really gotta be a special kind of a-hole to single-handedly mess up the mojo in a locker room. Philip Rivers has some jerk in him, and it's serving him just fine.

I posted some of this in the Kizer thread but felt I should move it here. Especially since I wanted to add some stuff that wasn't germane to the conversation in that thread.

The Rosen character concerns:

There are no legal issues.

He had a hot tub installed in his dorm room (everyone thought that was cool when Rodney Dangerfield did it in back to school.

He has voiced his opinion on things. He made statements that he is college to play football, not go to class. I think he may have made some political commentary as well but I am not sure.

He is very cocky. He walks around the UCLA campus like his sheet don't stink. I hear this from a friend who is currently in school at UCLA.

There is rumor that his teammates don't like him. I do not know if that is the case or not. My friend on campus is a freshman and she doesn't run in those circles.

My concern is: Can he take the beating. It sure seems like he gets hurt - a lot. know his o-lineisn't very good but even if you have 5 future HoF's for your line, theQb is still going to get hit.

TOTALLY agree.

Dig deep on this kid and if we're satisfied, you turn the card in. NO BRAINER.

NO offer is good enough to move off this kid at #1 if we love him. I don't care how many #1s someone offers.

Back to Back years we end up with a Cornerstone DE and a Franchise QB? Sign me up. That's what the #1 pick in a draft is for.

Sidenote. We MUST bring in a Veteran QB for these guys. And I'm seriously warming up to the thought of Mccarron, simply because he knows Jackson's Offense.

Man we're LOADED up to make our move this year. This part of the PLAN has been worked to PERFECTION.

FA and Draft.

QB both Draft and FA.
WR, CB, FS, RB, LB.

There are young men that Play with an attitude and young men WITH an attitude !

I would plan like Kizer isn't on the team. If he has the mental toughness to improve enough to overwhelm us all in the last 5 weeks then he can handle stiffer competition in camp.

I'm all for kwhip's QB in free agency AND the draft plan. Hell, take em in the 2nd and 3rd, too.

Josh Rosen is gonna be doing what matt lienart is doing right now: in a studio talking about college football during halftime.

lol why do you keep saying this? Rosen isn't like Quinn and Leinhart.

You’re right. He could be worse.

I have no real opinion either way but that's kinda funny...