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No clue what they have ... so far NOTHING ... but i dont know why Mueller would reduce his charges So much right after Flynn’s legal team cut off communications with Trumps ...
Mueller doesn't need to charge Flynn with the most serious charges to get the outcome he is seeking. Depending upon how the "agreement" is written, if Flynn does not cooperate with Mueller, the more serious charges could still be filed.
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So then why is everyone in the trump Administration lying about it?
For something apparently normal, this is the first time we’ve seen 4 indictments, 2 guilty pleas, recusals, and spin jobs since watergate.
Meddling in elections? Sure. Tag teaming with our biggest adversary who hacked the dnc in an attempt to sway the election in trumps favor? Not so sure that’s normal. Should be pretty obvious. Hysterical liberals looking for any reason to oust Trump. Because yenno, it was all ok and "normal" when Hillary was making deals with Russians. It's a power play. Pure and simple. Then you must believe it's a power play by the GOP. It was a GOP that set up the Mueller probe. It is a GOP congress that set up an investigation. It was a GOP senate that set up their investigation. In every one of these cases it was the GOP that created three separate investigations. The liberals have zero to do with it. And Hillary was investigated as well. There's no need to be bitter that Hillary was smarter about covering her tracks. I mean I agree that Hillary is really no better than Trump. She just wasn't so sloppy about it that she surrounded herself by even more slimy people that keep getting convicted like Trump has. I mean, "He only hires the best", right?
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Hey 40, I thought this wasn't about Russia collusion? As part of a plea deal, Flynn has admitted that a senior member of the Trump transition team directed him to make contact with Russian officials in December 2016. I wonder who the senior member is? My bets rest on Kusher. Link And? This actually isn't illegal. Hell, I'd actually encourage it; to reach out to other nations to try and better a mutual relationship. I also love it that ABC News is now fake and can't report anything accurately enough to save their life.
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Also, I don't care for how much this so-called "Investigation" is costing tax payer money. Now THAT should be a crime right there.
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ABC's Brian Ross again under fire for explosive error on Trump, FlynnABC's famously error-prone chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross was at it again on Friday when the network was forced to issue an embarrassing correction when Ross botched a bombshell "exclusive" about retired general Michael Flynn. An ABC spokesperson declined to comment on whether Ross will be disciplined. He has not been sanctioned for past errors. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...rump-flynn.htmlAnother Media Joke played on the Libs. 
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It’s funny that you’re laughing about a big ass error when it doesn’t change the fact that:
Flynn plead guilty to the Feds on lesser charges because he was cooperating prior while under more charges to begin with.
That’s still the facts. 4 indictment, 2guilty pleas.
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Good, I'm glad he got disciplined.
It's better when we have our tweeter in chief drop Saturday morning factual bombshells.
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ABC's Brian Ross again under fire for explosive error on Trump, FlynnABC's famously error-prone chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross was at it again on Friday when the network was forced to issue an embarrassing correction when Ross botched a bombshell "exclusive" about retired general Michael Flynn. An ABC spokesperson declined to comment on whether Ross will be disciplined. He has not been sanctioned for past errors. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...rump-flynn.htmlAnother Media Joke played on the Libs. Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe over possible anti-Trump textsRobert Mueller, the special counsel leading the Justice Department’s Russia collusion investigation, removed an FBI agent from the case over possible anti-Trump text messages, Fox News confirmed Saturday. The agent has been identified as Peter Strzok, one of the agency’s most experienced and trusted counterintelligence investigators, said the New York Times, which first reported the dismissal. The allegations came to light after the Justice Department’s inspector general started examining Strzok's messages. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/...rump-texts.html
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ABC Suspends Brian Ross Four Weeks Without Pay by Jeff Poor Dec 2017 Late Saturday, ABC News announced it was suspending network investigative reporter Brian Ross four weeks without pay for an inaccurate report that aired Friday. The report claimed Donald Trump had directed his eventual National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to contact the Russians while running for president as a candidate. Ross followed up his reporting later that day with a “clarification,” claiming it was not while Trump was a candidate, but as president-elect. Statement as follows: We deeply regret and apologize for the serious error we made yesterday. The reporting conveyed by Brian Ross during the special report had not been fully vetted through our editorial standards process. As a result of our continued reporting over the next several hours ultimately we determined the information was wrong and we corrected the mistake on air and online. It is vital we get the story right and retain the trust we have built with our audience –- these are our core principles. We fell far short of that yesterday. Effective immediately, Brian Ross will be suspended for four weeks without pay. www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/12...m_medium=social
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They just need to learn that Fake News no longer flies free in the new Murica.  It is kinda sad to see the hot air come out of those girls on "The View". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHAPsXhbR8
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I wouldn't put it past these guys to have allowed that story to do it's damage, then try to 'save face' by suspending the guy.
I seriously doubt four weeks without pay is gonna hurt that guy much. If indeed he is suspended 'without pay'.
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They just need to learn that Fake News no longer flies free in the new Murica. The guy gullible enough to get duped into believing that Donald Trump scared off a mugger and Obama held a military coup is here to tell us that fake news no longer flies.
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The new lie...I mean spin...damn, I mean “alternative fact” now is that trumps lawyer is actually the one who crafted the tweet about him knowing Flynn lied to the Feds.
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Trump Declares FBI's Reputation in 'Tatters' and Denies Ordering Comey to Stop Investigating Flynn https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-fbi-apos-reputation-142354437.htmlIn a barrage of early Sunday morning tweets, President Donald Trump lambasted the FBI and issued fresh denials of ordering former FBI Director James Comey to halt an investigation into dismissed national security adviser Michael Flynn. “I never asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn,” Trump tweeted. “Just more Fake News covering another Comey lie!” Donald Trump, Michael Flynn Donald Trump, Michael Flynn More President-elect Donald Trump with national security adviser Michael Flynn at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, on December 21, 2016. Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images Trending: Flynn Was No Maverick Operator. So Who Was Running Him? "After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness," tweeted the president later. He also referenced a report Saturday that an FBI agent reassigned by Special Counsel Robert Mueller for alleged anti-Trump texts was under investigation for his role in the Hillary Clinton emails probe. "Tainted (no, very dishonest?) FBI “agent’s role in Clinton probe under review.” Led Clinton Email probe. @foxandfriends Clinton money going to wife of another FBI agent in charge," tweeted the president, refering to a Fox and Friends report. "Report: “ANTI-TRUMP FBI AGENT LED CLINTON EMAIL PROBE” Now it all starts to make sense!" he tweeted subsequently. Don't miss: Trump Wants ABC To Be Sued Over Botched Russia Story By Brian Ross Trump’s latest tweets come after Flynn admitted Friday to having lied to the FBI about his contact with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak ahead of Trump’s inauguration. Trump sacked Flynn in February for deceiving Vice President Mike Pence about his contact with Kislyak. Trump stoked the controversy further Saturday, claiming that one of the reasons he had sacked Flynn was that he had lied to the FBI. “I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” Trump wrote in that tweet. But critics were quick to point out that if Trump knew that Flynn had committed a felony by lying to the FBI and urged Comey not to investigate Flynn then the president may have committed an obstruction of justice. “Are you ADMITTING you knew Flynn had lied to the FBI when you asked Comey to back off Flynn?” Walter Shaub, the former head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, asked in a tweet Saturday afternoon. Most popular: Trump Declares FBI's Reputation in 'Tatters' and Denies Ordering Comey to Stop Investigating Flynn "This is a pretty substantial confession to essential knowledge elements of an obstruction of justice charge," Susan Hennessey, a national security fellow at the Brookings Institution, tweeted on Saturday. Comey claims that the day after Trump fired Flynn the president approached him and asked him to go easy with Flynn. “I hope you can let this go,” Trump told Comey, according to handwritten notes Comey took of the conversation which he presented in testimony to Congress in May. Two sources close to Trump told the Washington Post Saturday, however, that Trump’s chief counsel, John Dowd, crafted the controversial tweet. Trump fired Comey in May. He subsequently told ABC News that he had fired Comey because he was leading an investigation into alleged election meddling by Russia in 2016. “When I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said 'you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.’ " Shortly after Trump’s Saturday tweet, Comey offered what seemed to be a cryptic commentary on the president’s new claims. “Beautiful Long Island Sound from Westport, CT,” Comey wrote in the caption of an Instagram post. “To paraphrase the Buddha — Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun; the moon; and the truth.” _________________________ lol, this is comical. the way trump and his irrational supporters talk about Hillary all the time, you could've sworn she is the one currently president, not Trump. Clinton didn't trash his opponent Bush non stop after he won. He didn't trash Dole non stop after he won. Bush didn't trash Gore non stop after he won. He didn't trash Kerry non stop after he won. Obama didn't trash McCain non stop after he won. He didn't trash Romney non stop after he won. But Trump? Trump literally threatened to Jail his political opponent on the debate stage. Even after he won, he can't stop bringing up Hillary in every other tweet. this only enforces the idea that Trump himself didn't want to win this election, as well as a bunch of people around the country. They had their "hate hillary" agenda completely lined up and mapped out for the next 4 years. then he won, and now Trump and his state sponsored media outlet Fox news and Briebart don't know what to do with themselves. it's why anytime SOMETHING comes out about hillary, they are quick to pounce. I've never see an ideology so bent out of shape over winning an election in my life. we had Hannity call hillary 'president clinton' for god sake. that crap was hilarious. but continue tweeting, Trump. you keep digging yourself a hole, especially since your administration made sure to let everyone know your tweets are official statements from the WH. Flynn already rolled on your staff before the guilty plea, that's why he got the lesser charge in the first place. who was it, though? Did Kusher give the order? Trump Jr? Sessions? Trump himself? Flynn was always gonna pick his son over Trump when push came to shove. So if it's Kushner, who already met with Mueller's team, will he roll too? Who is Kushner loyal to? Cause judging by his sloppy/failed business practices, he will save his own ass before covering for Trump, if push came to shove. Can't blame that on Hillary or Obama.
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I agree with Trump, now even the FBI is looking bad and tarnished.
Just like the Secret Service a few years back with the drunken parties while protecting the President in a foreign land.
Just like the IRS, needing to admit and apologize for their underhanded actions against Conservative groups during Obama's second election run.
The Justice Dept with ignoring the tarmac meeting. The CIA and NSA with "We are not spying on Americans lie." The ATF with Fast and Furious.
Draining the swamp, try not to get any on ya.
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Trump will lash out at everybody that doesn't fit his BS reality until they lead him out in handcuffs or a straight jacket. Saw a story earlier that he is secretly asking aids to do things for him and "not let Kelly know"... like a child sneaking behind daddy's back.
Such an embarrassment and a danger to the country. I can't believe you are so blind to this.
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the FBI is fine.
whats sad is that your boy will believe fox news over our own intelligence agencies.
but thats what happens when you go out of your way to wage war against the media, team up with state sponsor media in fox news, and take russia's side over our own american intelligence community.
but that says a lot bout his lack of patriotism, as well as those who make enemies with fellow americans than hold russia accountable for anything.
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Yea, right, as one of their finest bites the dust... Robert Mueller, the special counsel leading the Justice Department’s Russia collusion investigation, removed an FBI agent from the case over possible anti-Trump text messages, Fox News confirmed Saturday. The agent has been identified as Peter Strzok, one of the agency’s most experienced and trusted counterintelligence investigators, said the New York Times, which first reported the dismissal. Lets not forget Comey and Holder either.
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again, the department is fine.
just because theres a few screwups here and there does not mean the agency needs to be completely overhauled, as some would imply.
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Disagree.
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Did Americans as a whole lose faith, or just trump and his supporters?
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Yea, right, as one of their finest bites the dust... Robert Mueller, the special counsel leading the Justice Department’s Russia collusion investigation, removed an FBI agent from the case over possible anti-Trump text messages, Fox News confirmed Saturday. The agent has been identified as Peter Strzok, one of the agency’s most experienced and trusted counterintelligence investigators, said the New York Times, which first reported the dismissal. FBI agent removed from Mueller investigation over anti-Trump messages By Evan Perez, CNN Justice Correspondent Sun December 3, 2017 The man in charge of the Russia investigation (CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller removed one of the FBI's top Russian counterintelligence experts from his team of investigators after an internal investigation found messages he sent that could be interpreted as showing political bias for Hillary Clinton and against President Donald Trump, according to US officials briefed on the matter. Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of the Hillary Clinton email server as the No. 2 official in the FBI's counterintelligence division, left the Mueller team this past summer, multiple sources said. Investigators from the Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General have been reviewing both the FBI's and the Justice Department's handling of the Clinton probe, which cleared the former Democratic presidential candidate of criminal wrongdoing, sources said. The messages from Strzok to another FBI expert assigned to the Mueller team were discovered in the course of that internal review. The wording of the messages sent during the 2016 campaign appeared to be making fun of then-candidate Trump, and raised concerns that they could be seen as being pro-Clinton, the sources said. www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.htmlMakes you wonder about all the Clinton donors Mueller assigned to help with the investigation. SMDH for real.
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Yes, good post, we are gonna have to take a new look at Hillary and the FBI investigators in this one!
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How about Mueller and Rosenstien ... we’ll be able to add them to the list SOONER thaN LATER!!!
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Arguments continue to remain weak from the other side. Too many whataboutisms from Fish, 40, and Diam.
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No not when you are showing them to a 30 year veteran of the Fire Service. I would jump up each time and slide down the poll.
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Sorry if this was previously posted: 'After erroneous Flynn report, ABC News suspends Brian Ross'https://www.yahoo.com/news/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-serious-reporting-error-231534531.htmlNEW YORK (AP) — ABC News on Saturday suspended investigative reporter Brian Ross for four weeks without pay for his erroneous report on Michael Flynn, which it called a "serious error." Ross, citing an unnamed confidant of Flynn, the former national security adviser, had reported Friday that then-candidate Donald Trump had directed Flynn to make contact with the Russians. That would have been an explosive development in the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to interfere in the election. But hours later, Ross clarified his report on the evening news, saying that his source now said Trump had done so not as a candidate, but as president-elect. At that point, he said, Trump had asked Flynn to contact the Russians about issues including working together to fight ISIS. ABC was widely criticized for merely clarifying and not correcting the report. It issued a correction later in the evening. "We deeply regret and apologize for the serious error we made yesterday," the network said in a statement Saturday. "The reporting conveyed by Brian Ross during the special report had not been fully vetted through our editorial standards process. As a result of our continued reporting over the next several hours ultimately we determined the information was wrong and we corrected the mistake on air and online. "It is vital we get the story right and retain the trust we have built with our audience — these are our core principles. We fell far short of that yesterday. Effective immediately, Brian Ross will be suspended for four weeks without pay." The news brought swift reaction from Trump, who tweeted: "Congratulations to @ABC News for suspending Brian Ross for his horrendously inaccurate and dishonest report on the Russia, Russia, Russia Witch Hunt. More Networks and "papers" should do the same with their Fake News!" As for Ross, who is ABC's chief investigative correspondent, he tweeted: "My job is to hold people accountable and that's why I agree with being held accountable myself." Ross, 69, joined the network in 1994. He has won a slew of journalism awards, including, according to his ABC bio, six George Polk awards, six Peabody awards and two Emmys, among others. He also, though, has drawn criticism for previous errors. In just one example, ABC had to apologize in 2012 when Ross reported on "Good Morning America" that James Holmes, the suspect in the movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado, might be connected to the tea party, based on a name listed on a web page. It turned out to be a different "Jim Holmes." Ross was criticized for politicizing the story with the error. Journalism analyst Roy Peter Clark, senior scholar at the Poynter Institute, a nonprofit journalism school based in Florida, noted that while reporting errors are always serious, the current media climate — in which the president is accusing mainstream outlets of purveying "fake news" — renders the stakes even higher. "There has been a significant change in the political culture in the last two years," Clark said. "That change has had many consequences for the practice of journalism. When the president of the United States refers to the press collectively as an enemy of the people, the people who support that view will interpret certain acts of journalism as being evidence that the president is correct." "The problem," Clark added, "is that a mistake like this, even though it's ultimately corrected, and the reporter punished for it, feeds into a narrative that is now poisonous. When there is a clear mistake, it can be translated by folks who are attacking the press as bias. I think it's very important for journalists in this political culture to be more aggressive, and more cautious at the same time."
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Probably at least 10 times across a bunch of different threads lol. Sorry buddy! I was having a great day, THEN I watched the Browns game. Unhappy now. I didn't want to go through this thread and check as my sleeping pills are kicking in and I'm getting a bit loopy. Time to watch a touch more of football, then hit the hay.
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No not when you are showing them to a 30 year veteran of the Fire Service. I would jump up each time and slide down the poll.
Exhausting. A true fire fighter would simply slide down a pole. That's how a Pro would spell it. It's also how literate graduates of the 6th grade would spell it. Heck... a post-teen high school dropout working in the adult entertainment industry spells his/her professional apparatus as 'pole.' But you.... after 30 years on the job, slid down a... -wait for it- "poll?" Thank you for your 'service.'
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Maybe he meant "sliding down a poll" like Al Franken did in his popularity poll last week? 
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And here I thought it was the I would jump up each time and slide down the poll.
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