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Don't hold your breath. Agreeing with Nazis is much more up the right's alley.

Not so sure about this. Seems like the Democrats and all their followers are more in tune with non-capitalist principles than are the Republicans.

Not saying the Republicans are innocent, but the Dems are being held hostage by Socialists (Sanders, Warren, BLM, ANTIFA, Occupy Wall Street, etc), and if they are not, then they are Socialists themselves.

No reasonable person can say the Republican party are Nazis, that is just absurd.

Yet at the same time, every Nazi and KKK group are joined by members of the GOP and support the GOP.

The KKK was founded and experienced its greatest growth under the Democrats and its Democrat members.

Oh, you mean when the Democrats acted like the Republicans do now?

Here comes the Pit Twist as we rewrite history.

The only twist is from you. You know full well what I said is true. All you can come back with is a one liner full of BS. Your usual.

So you say since the KKK mainly supports the GOP then all the GOP must be KKK members.

Wow, that makes a lot of sense. I did not realize I was a KKK member or a Nazi. My dad, if he were alive, would be upset with me since he fought the Nazis in WW2.

True.
But only half the story.
Tell it all or keep it to yourself.

Exactly why the Republicans agree with the Nazis so much. Despite their party being translated into "National Socialist" party, giving them an appearance of being a socialist organization, they were not. They proposed their own ideas about how governments should be run. This is why we call them Nazi (short for "Nationalsozialistische") instead of socialists. In fact, Nazis embraced the ideas of capitalism and established a very severe meritocracy based upon the individual which employed capitalist principals such as slave labor. Look at how their companies were coopted by the capitalists of the world after their loss. A Hugo Boss suit is a sign of success in this world. Meritocracy is the calling card of capitalism. It's why you'll never see a Nazi vote for Sanders or Jill Stein and why you see them continuously support right winged politicians like Roy Moore, Trump, and the Arizona Sheriff.

And you're right. No one could ever say the Republican party are Nazis. Which is why no one has. But let's not get it twisted. Nazis sit on the right and not the left.

you know what's funny about this argument?

how many neo nazi's, nationalist, and white supremacist that were in charlottesville have grandfathers or great grandfathers that fought the nazi's in WW2?

i wonder how many racist had ancestors that fought for the union during the civil war.

bringing up what your family did doesn't give you automatic benefit of doubt when it comes to your own personal beliefs.

not calling you a nazi, but the point had to be made.

but that's at the heart of racism, isn't it. people taking credit for stuff they weren't apart of. people feeling superior to others because they believe their skin tone somehow gives them special powers.

I can't tell it all as Pit hasn't finished writing it yet!

40's got jokes.
Tell the rest.

This is also why you see so many families disavow their their children after they become Nazis. Which is a move I wish the right would start making.

That is all well and good. So then it does not matter who a Nazi supports politically. A person ( Nazi or a not a Nazi) has a right to vote, if eligible of course. If that person votes D or R does not mean you group the entire party as that individual, or group of individuals. Do not say that no one here has called Trump or any other Republican a Nazi, because I am sure they have.

If I knew a Nazi I would disavow his arse.

You see, I never said that. I bet your dad would say pretty much what I did actually say.

I bet he would say anybody standing beside the Nazis in a protest would be considered Nazi sympathizer.

Let me be clear. I am not asking for any benefit of the doubt from you or anyone here. I do not need it.

All I said that if I were a KKK member or a Nazi my dad would be upset with me.

The moral superiority that came from your comment was sickening. I expect better from you.

That is incorrect. Can a Nazi and non-Nazi agree on lower taxes, better defense, better benefits? If so, then why can't they protest them together?

In 2005, the foundation run by Judge Roy Moore, now the Republican nominee for a Senate seat in Alabama, accepted a $1,000 donation from a group founded by Willis Carto, a white supremacist, Nazi supporter and World War II vet who famously said he regretted fighting for the U.S

That's not what they were protesting and you know it. Quit trying to change the subject. Besides, have you ever seen Nazi flags and the KKK carrying a rebel flag at a rally for lower taxes? No, you haven't.

i didn't say anything sickening. i simply said a perspective you either felt some type of way over, or never heard before.

if you are marching along side nazi's, there is no way in hell one can reasonably conclude that they are somehow separate, especially over the issue it was over.

so you can call it moral superiority all you want.

i call it "Don't march with nazi's".

Yes. It matters if Nazis support you and your policy. If you accept and want Nazis to be part of your political coalition and do not disavow them then that shows badly on you. Nazis have the rights to vote, but that doesn't mean you have to make their vote feel welcomed.

Well they need it and count on it. So there's that.

But just a minute ago you were telling me Nazis supported socialist ideas. Which one is it?

Does an individual have to blindly follow a party's political platform?

I know I do not. My point is you cannot blanket everyone (i.e., Nazi= Republican , or Republican = Nazi)

Not at all. Nazi = German Version of Hitler's Nazis. Neo Nazi = New Generation of post German Nazi's. Only time and history will determine which version was 'light beer'. Neo Nazi's are on the rise around the world.

Cool point. But no one is.

As lite beer has developed a better head over time?

I have heard the perspective you are saying a thousand times.

The sickening point to me was when you mentioned people (meaning me) feeling superior to others. How could I take it any other way?

Since the BLM is a fiercely racist group (and please do not tell me they are not) who votes Democrat, are all Dems racist? It would sure seem that way by your "perspective".

Dead

You obviously missed the point or did not follow the narrative.

Are all liberals illogical? I certainly was hoping not.

I got your "point". It doesn't make it any less hysterical. Especially since you're comparing BLM with Nazis. Which is so illogical and absurd that it adds an extra level of funny to your post.

BLM isn't racist though, no matter how much the right tried to convince you.

i didn't say you felt superior to others. i specifically said i wasn't talking about you, but using your post about your dad fighting in WW2 doesn't mean we can assume you belief the same.

and my point is correct no matter how much you cry about it. how many people have fought in wars, and those soldiers kids didn't believe in the war? or their friends and family didn't hold the same views?

but you can't even argue the point, anymore. you're now deflecting and making a false narrative that i called you superior. sad.

"Funny" to you perhaps, but not funny to people who are grouped with a racist organization just because they vote for a particular party in an election.

Actually I find your post to be hysterical in that you have no idea on how much damage grouping an individual (who is not racist) in with a racist organization just on how someone votes.

I've repeatedly told you that no one is doing that. However you keep insisting that people are doing this. Playing dumb and ignorant was funny, but now it's just sad. You're the only one painting people with broad brushes here.

Maybe you need to be more specific in your email.

And for the record, I do agree that some kids of vets hold VASTLY different views than their father, uncle, mother, etc. who did fight in wars.

you just need to get out of your feelings.

Ok, let me be clear, I am not getting into a name calling game with you by calling you dumb and ignorant despite your eager attempt to be (now that is a joke).

There have been posts on here , and I am going to paraphrase, that if you protest with a Nazi or stand side by side, even if you do not know the person to be a Nazi, then you basically are supporting the Nazis.

And the poster(s) do not even care what the issue is. That is the problem I am having. Grouping non racist people in with a racist organization based on a political belief (i.e., lower taxes), not a moral belief. I would bet everyone on this board is non racist in their hearts.

I love my feelings. Wouldn't have them any other way.
Maybe you are the one that needs to look in the mirror.