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nope. went into the army 2 years after i did.

I see.

happens. oh well.

but yea there's a ton of useless degree paths that students take.

i don't even put that on the school really. i put that on the student, their counselors in high school, and their parents for taking completely useless degrees.

but you see it a lot in real life. we have a bunch of officers in the military with useless degrees....which is the whole reason they're in the military lol. poor decision making, followed by "oh crap need to do something before moms basement becomes a permanent residence".

honestly i wish there was a way that we can get students paid for with a national effort of getting them in degree paths that we need in the labor force.

schools in europe have "free" education (we've been over this so we all know what "Free" means"), but for the most part it works out for them, as they have homegrown talent to fill their jobs, and keep the best.

they also get free education, then come to america and ball out of control. sucks but thats life.

but it doesn't have to be if we got it together.

i'm liberal so i know you don't like our plans most of the time, but what i would do is make school free for American citizens/green card holders only, but with a bunch of regulations.

Students must have a 2.5 gpa in high school, and must get a degree in the 4-8 most in demand industries (such as medical, engineering, business, etc). make it so that the in demand industries are reviewed every 4-5 to reflect current labor demands.

illegals, students coming over overseas through student visas are not eligible for their funded education, but i would change it so student visa holders are eligible to get in-state tuition rates.

no federal funding will go to for-profit/private schools. only state schools.

federal loans will still be provided for students going into degree paths out of the top 8 industries/fields, but again, no federal loans for profit/private schools, but will encourage banks to offer student friendly loans (low interest rates and monthly payments) for students that want to go to private schools.

i would also federally fund all trade schools (electrician, plumbing, etc).

i know there's a lot of holes and flaws, but overall, i feel a system like this would allow us to develop home grown talent and get our own people hired in skilled positions across the country. the economy would get a boost with more people in skilled/high pay positions, the making cost of investment more than worth it.

You don't get it. No one is part of these programs besides athletes.

Are you SERIOUS???

interdepartmental studies or general studies,, you could include "college studies"........ Dude, those aren't JUST for athletes.

Dude, I could name you 10 people I went to college with that got "degrees" in "collegiate studies"

And that was at a small, liberal arts school - no athletic scholarships what so ever.

Pretty much every college or university has similarly titled degrees, or majors. If you think it's just for the athletes, you are ignorant of the facts.

Wow, I thought you were more intelligent than this. I've learned something about you today.

What does she want to pursue?
We've all dang near watched her grow up in these threads, so we're all kinda invested nowadays.

This topic doesn't tell me anything knew about you, Arch. Other than you probably majored in knitting.

Just because a majority of athletes take a program, doesn't mean that it's built for them. That wouldn't make sense.

Also, the one interesting thing about the major is that it's not a traditional major, but rather a degree that states you have knowledge of whichever areas of study the person did.

Nursing.

And I realize I've spoken too much about my daughter - hell, chs is calling me out saying he hopes I don't give my daughter any guidance on college since I'm dumb and simplistic.

There won't be much more from me about my daughter. Trust me.

Hey man, I just wanted to spare her the embarrassment of you asking the tour guide if x school offers underwater basketweaving as a major.

Showing your ignorance again I see.

She knows what she wants to do. You're now being a jerk simply because I showed you your ignorance.

And by the way I have many, many good personal friends that are emt's, paramedics, RN's, doctors, and many more that are in health administrative positions, including a CEO of a hospital, and actually my father who spent 46 years in health care, 40 of them as the CEO.

Chill dude, I know a lot. My daughter is in damn good hands, and she'll get into a damn fine school.

I've enjoyed the stories. Always have.
I enjoy hearing about your son, as well.

You'll probably just need to keep watching facebook.

I've enjoyed posting about my kids on here, but I realize I've said too much about them.

lol you just kept making up fake majors and I kept schooling you on them. Nothing more, nothing less.

You didn't school me on anything. I don't know what you're smoking tonight, but I can guess.

Collegiate Studies (or some similar name) is available at just about every college/univ. in this country. It's a fancy name for the college to take your money. I've obviously done more research than you And yet you call ME out of touch. Priceless.

Grow up.

I don't know if you were working close to freon or not today, but your posts have made me wonder.

Please, you made up a major called "knitting" to show how colleges produce customers and were proved wrong. You've since changed your argument to show a major that is predominantly filled with student athletes, who are not customers. You link an article from SB Nation showing how much of a joke this education is and then say "people are choosing it". That's not how it works, homeboy. Go back to underwater basketweaving.

This post shows how you can't even follow along.

Oh, hey bud, try reading AND comprehension. It does wonders.

I probably can't follow along because your freon addled brain keeps making up conversations as you go. You lied about colleges making up majors to get customers. I can't make you accept reality, Arch. You gotta start doing that yourself.

Freon addled brain? Where the hell do you come up with this?

Look man, I've made my point. You look bad, and name calling makes you look worse. I will not reciprocate. I won't stoop to your level.

Keep on lying, it is not a good look.

Lying? Says the guy calling me a freon addled brain?

Well, chs, you're in a hole, and you're still using the shovel.

Yeah, shoveling is actually my major. You know how colleges are, I'm sure.

See? You have nothing, so you resort to the inane. Thanks for playing. You can pick your respect up later.

OK, I about choked on my drink when I read this, you should have used a warning label.

Inane was what you were playing from the get go. Remember when you said colleges weren't there to educate but just give people dumb degrees?

Bad form CHS! Living in an alternate reality is a medically induced condition. Damn Arch I'm sorry about that, please don't start reciprocating. I had a saw do that once and it really shook me.

No, I don't remember saying that. In fact, this proves another point: You have no point.

What I ACTUALLY said was colleges are in the business of attracting customers. And they'll offer degrees in anything in order to get that customer.

Dude, you're looking worse and worse here. Putting words in my mouth I never said? Come on, I used to think you were better than that.

I've learned though.

What? You're constantly putting words in my mouth, which is why I try not to argue with you. Here your actual post, just in case you forgot it.



I understand if you can't remember your posts. They're very cryptic and you tend to change them when you're called out upon.

I think you ought to quit posting for tonight. You just posted what I said in the post above. You aren't thinking properly tonight. Go to bed. Wake up, have some coffee, and then start reading again.'

You'll see what I mean in the morning. Or, maybe you won't. Regardless, I find it funny.

You made my point, by quoting my point, yet attempting to say I said different.

Hitting it tonight?

I see the problem Arch. Your original post needs a little deciphering. I got it alright, but I'm more tuned to your rhetoric than most. Maybe you should offer an english translation on at least a 10th grade level with you more insightful posts.

Maybe you should go hit on eve again.

See how well we can get along when we try? Keep smiling Arch!

I wouldn't know about butt rash. But, it seems you do?

Sorry. I don't do the Hillary Clinton persuasive tool where you super hedge all your ideas. IE saying Colleges are not entirely in the business of education, but it's actually about attracting customers. Saying "entirely" as a caveat doesn't change the meaning, it makes someone a liar.

Dude, put the pipe/bong whatever down. Just go to bed. You are making no sense what so ever.

You won't get any arguments from me.

He should pass the pipe/bong and share it.

Y'all could use a little... just saying.

I have a strict two puff and pass rule going on with Swish and GM. Just find a place to sit and we'll send it your way.

I'm sitting but cannot reach.