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Hue Jackson gets his first win of the year.

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Peyton Manning is a complete pipe dream.

Browns fire head of personnel Sashi Brown; coach Hue Jackson to stay
10:37 AM ET
Adam Schefter Dianna Russini

The Cleveland Browns fired executive vice president Sashi Brown, the man who headed Cleveland's personnel department the past two years, league sources told ESPN.

Head coach Hue Jackson will remain on the job and the expectation is that he will return for the 2018 season, though whoever Cleveland hires as its new general manager also will have a say.

But for now, ownership plans to retain Jackson, as ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported last month.

The Browns declined comment at this time.

Cleveland immediately will begin its official search for a new general manager, its ninth general manager since the franchise returned to its city in 1999, though it quietly has been inquiring about others around the league for weeks now, per sources.

Brown will leave a Cleveland team that traded away the picks that became Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson, but also an organization that has stockpiled picks for future drafts and created more salary-cap space than any team in the league.

This team actually is well positioned for future years, many NFL executives have noted recently. Whoever takes over inherits some of the riches that Brown helped build.

The Browns have six extra picks in April's draft -- an extra first-, two extra second-round picks, an extra fourth-round pick, an extra fifth-round pick. Right now, the Browns also have $59.25 million cap space this year that they can roll over into next year, when they already are scheduled to have another $38.6 million of room, giving them almost $100 million in salary cap space.

The team also failed to execute a trade for Cincinnati Bengals quarterback A.J. McCarron seconds before the NFL's Oct. 31 trade deadline, when the proper paperwork did not get processed, and a trade that looked like it was going through abruptly fell apart.

Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam are expected to interview GM candidates as early as this week, per sources, though they also already could have spoken with former NFL general managers Dave Gettleman, John Dorsey and Scot McCloughan without any permission or any restrictions.

Today's shakeup continues a run that has made Cleveland the NFL's most unstable franchise. Since returning to Cleveland, the Browns had had eight different general managers -- Brown, Ray Farmer, Michael Lombardi, Tom Heckert, George Kokinis, Phil Savage, Butch Davis and Dwight Clark. It also has employed longtime executives Paul DePodesta, Joe Banner, Mike Holmgren and Mike Keenan.

The Browns also have had nine head coaches since 1999, tied for 4th-most in the NFL. The Bills, Dolphins and Raiders have all had 10. But Jackson, at least for the time being, is staying on.

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Why even say anything about Hue Jackson at this point?

The Browns front office chose a complete rebuild through the draft.
It produced tons of cap space and a motherload of premium 2018 draft picks.

But the cost was 2 rough seasons, very rough.

Fans are upset and somebody had to pay....if you brought Hue back without any changes many fans would be in an uproar and some still be....

But IF this was the plan all along then why fire the architect right before:

Round 1: Cleveland, Houston
Round 2: Cleveland, Houston, Philadelphia
Round 3: Cleveland
Round 4: Cleveland, Carolina
Round 5: Cleveland, Kansas City
Round 6: Cleveland
Round 7: Cleveland

Fact is, we don't know who was responsible for passing on Wentz. Maybe Haslam simply doesn't trust Sashi with those picks.

Love all the picks. But they can’t evaluate talent. Thanks for the pick sashi, but we can’t let you pick those players. Too big of draft for franchise

Pit, unless something changed it was my understanding that Sashi didn't make the picks, Hue and Andrew Berry do and Sashi only steps in when the two can't agree.

That's true, Jackson being kept is limiting in the search, but the announcement that Hue will be retained suggests, at least to me, that Jimmy already knows who his GM will be and that GM has already signed off on keeping Jackson around.

JMHO.

You think it was Sashi's decision alone to pass on QBs?

If there is anything I blame Sashi for its dumping some of the veterans that could have helped win a handful of games over the past 2 seasons.

In the grand scheme those handful of wins are meaningless but at they same time they're important in here and now for perception and morale.

Who would be the GM that accepts Hue?

Or maybe its the perfect job, because Hue is the easy way out if things don't turn for the best.

Either way, IMHO, Hue's days are counted here. I would rather just do it all at the same time.

I've never heard that. In fact, Hue has just stated that he wants more say on the draft picks.

Maybe they are looking at Hue as a "player's coach" who Free Agents like and will accept, and a potential lure for what looks like a bad situation...

"Hue has just stated that he wants more say on the draft picks."

Like Parcells use to say.. If Im the cook , I want to pick the ingredients..

And what does a lawyer and a baseball guy know about NFL meals?

Comparing Hue to Parcells?

At least enough to see that mixing in a 2nd and a 3rd for a half baked AJ McCarron will give you indigestion.

Because the rebuild was more painful than it should have been.
Because the architect couldn't bring in the AVAILABLE QBs, WRs, and CBs that would have considerably bolstered the roster.

I won't even harp on the talent let go. What I said above is pain point enough.

And yes, Hue had his 2 cents on the QB situation. If the new guy wants him gone, so be it.

I could of sworn that was said in one the press conferences when this group was set up, that Sashi would only step in and be deciding factor when the the Scouting dept. and the coaching staff couldn't agree.

Wasn't Sachi that hired Hue?

j/c

The silver lining here is that we can now criticize Hue without being accused of favoring the FO.

Please,
Hue is for sure staying in 2018 now. Once Jimmy and Dee approved the McCarron trade, Sashi was DONE!!!.. Because that meant that Jimmy/Dee believed Hue and everyone else about the talent level of the QBs and the entire roster.

Watch the new GM spend some of the cap space the old FO was hording!!

We will be accused of being sour and bad losers...

Hue is going to be fired when we go 0-4 next season. He's just a mediocre coach...

Even a good coach would be lucky to start the season 2-2....

Not that Hue needs it, but it will only take a Gordon's positive test after the draft.....

I knew it, Willie, you've clearly got an agenda against Hue Jackson because you're biased in favour of (Will later edit in the name of whoever Haslam hires as GM) when this is all clearly an issue of (Will later edit in the name of whoever Haslam hires as GM) not giving Hue the weapons he needs.

Only comparing a preference, not coaching talent.

I could say I like tacos just like Lebron. That doesn’t mean I’m comparing myself to him on the court too.

Or maybe Hue thinks he is Parcells.... Which is understandable and even a good thing... but others have to be crazy to even seen any similarities.

Look,
Hue and the incoming GM better sit down and plan some things out. First, what talent can you pick up in the draft, what in FA. Once they do that, GET THE TALENT PERIOD!!..

What folks forget, was that Sashi/Depodesta was vetoing alot of FA talent. So now, the new GM will have to spend some to stock up. Next year, if the Browns go 6-10, that will earn Hue another year.

I've thought all year something was going to have to give, there was just no way you can stick with this plan with 1 win in 2 years..thats not a plan, thats a con job. So Hue and coaching staff has much more credentials in this league than the FO, so they naturally should get the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't, however, absolve them from some of the blame, What it indeed did was remove anymore excuses. Let the games begin

Maybe it won't happen, but there have been talks IMO (and based on people at Tennesee)

No question that Hue and ??? need to get on the same page. I just don't see there being time until after the season is over. I think they can still make that work in time for the FA period and the draft.

Who did Sashi/Depodesta veto? I haven't heard that. I know we tried to get a couple guys who went elsewhere for less money...but not that FAs were vetoed.

I'm more worried about the scouting function than Sashi getting fired. We've paid the price for this upcoming draft and don't need to repeat the repeated example of the "new guys not being together long enough to properly evaluate the talent in the draft".

is DEPO gone yet?

From Mike Silver:



https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/773177801729978368

Haslam is having the best of both worlds.

He found a GM rube willing to commit to a total rebuild through the draft that netted a Jimmy Johnsonesque haul in draft picks for 2018 he simultaneously places the blame for losing on the same guy that was the architect of the plan that netted the picks.

https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/938802399275130880