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I wonder what it's like to live in Alabama.

I'd be worried if someone's daughters went to prom and Roy Moore showed up to the dance.


In Alabama you walk everywhere. Because there is only one gas station. And nobody can find it. It's a backwards state.


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I think it's because I'm a Christian myself. I know what that means to me and it's much more personal to me than any other religion that I'm not associated with.

I just keep seeing self proclaimed Christians and Christian evangelists support his guy and since I'm a Christian it hits very close to home for me.


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I expect apologies from every one of you . link


You're caping for a pedophile, and you want people to apologize to you for it?

Unreal.


Not really, all they were doing was asking for evidence beyond reasonable doubt, no one on here was willing to wait for it and now there is ADMISSION of tampering by one of the accusers so...

You (and the rest of you) need to knock it off with the 'supporting pedophiles accusations. These are decent human beings who were merely wanting real evidence.

Not unreasonable to be suspicious of this kind of thing so...
Yeah, because the fact that I have said that the allegations and evidence look like hes a pedo and a creep mean nothing, the fact I want evidence means im supporting him (even tho I don't live in Alabama and physically cannot support nor vote for anyone in that state). But you know, facts and stuff...

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I expect apologies from every one of you . link


You're caping for a pedophile, and you want people to apologize to you for it?

Unreal.


Not really, all they were doing was asking for evidence beyond reasonable doubt, no one on here was willing to wait for it and now there is ADMISSION of tampering by one of the accusers so...

You (and the rest of you) need to knock it off with the 'supporting pedophiles accusations. These are decent human beings who were merely wanting real evidence.

Not unreasonable to be suspicious of this kind of thing so...


There are multiple accusers. Each has multiple corroborating witnesses stating they've been saying this for years.

There are multiple police officers on record saying that he was banned from a mall for trying to pick up underage girls, and mall employees who confirm it. There are additional police officers on record saying their duties during high school football games was to keep him away from cheerleaders, and multiple school officials who confirm this.

At what point should people trying to nitpick this in the name of political football want to take a shower from the disgust and shame that should come from trying to protect and enable this man?

Forget the Senate -would you feel comfortable letting this man be around your children? And if so...what is wrong with you?

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Ahhhh memory lane - lets take a look at some reports from around 2011.
Cain Making Clinton look innocent

WaPo - Will Herman Cain suvive the scandal?


Cain offers proof of innocence

Funny, miss Allrud was the lawyer of these false accusers. . . . . . . . .

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Funny thing is, you pointed out how disgusting they all were and now you're using their disgusting behavior to excuse one of your own.

"They did it, so...."


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Funny thing is, you pointed out how disgusting they all were and now you're using their disgusting behavior to excuse one of your own.

"They did it, so...."
I think you are lost, where did i say anything like that?

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Why point the finger at some of them rather than only one party? The bias isn't hard to see.

They're all perverts on matter which party they belong to. The only difference I see is that as of this moment, one party is trying to thin the herd while the other party is still trying to vote them into office.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Why point the finger at some of them rather than only one party? The bias isn't hard to see.

They're all perverts on matter which party they belong to. The only difference I see is that as of this moment, one party is trying to thin the herd while the other party is still trying to vote them into office.
If the guy is a perv he should step down, show me one person that has not said that.......

all anyone has said is they want proof before they hang a person.

so far, the proof that has been provided has been allegations, a yearbook, and mall ban story.

The yearbook is forged or changed, or whatever it is - questionable to say the very least, the allegations are from 30 years ago, and the mall story has been debunked by OAN and the manager of the mall and employees

Why will no one answer my question as to where are the more recent allegations? If the guy is pedo do you think he just stopped that behavior? seems weird. its not like chocolate, something you can give up for lent. Pedophilia is a sick mindset - you don't just "stop" being. Yet no one has come across a single accusation or proof of anything within 30 years timeframe, which by the way would alllllll be things that would not be able to take to court due to SOL. You guys are upset he cant be tried because of the SOL, yet it looks like there is a reason they don't want it to be tried.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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Why point the finger at some of them rather than only one party? The bias isn't hard to see.

They're all perverts on matter which party they belong to. The only difference I see is that as of this moment, one party is trying to thin the herd while the other party is still trying to vote them into office.
If the guy is a perv he should step down, show me one person that has not said that.......

all anyone has said is they want proof before they hang a person.

so far, the proof that has been provided has been allegations, a yearbook, and mall ban story.

The yearbook is forged or changed, or whatever it is - questionable to say the very least, the allegations are from 30 years ago, and the mall story has been debunked by OAN and the manager of the mall and employees

Why will no one answer my question as to where are the more recent allegations? If the guy is pedo do you think he just stopped that behavior? seems weird. its not like chocolate, something you can give up for lent. Pedophilia is a sick mindset - you don't just "stop" being. Yet no one has come across a single accusation or proof of anything within 30 years timeframe, which by the way would alllllll be things that would not be able to take to court due to SOL. You guys are upset he cant be tried because of the SOL, yet it looks like there is a reason they don't want it to be tried.



You're lying.

You're flat out lying. And you should ask yourself why.

Generations - GENERATIONS- of Alabama cops have said on record that they were instructed to to keep Rot Moore away from young girls. This is on top of half a dozen accusers and 100+ corroborating witnesses.

At what point do you stop and think "oh, my God, I'm defending a pedophile in the name of politics"?

With 40...he sounds like a creepy pervert. But with you and Ted and others...it seems like you're just doing this because of politics. Y'all are smart and have souls.

And ask yourself why, and if it's worth it?

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Gadsden Mall Manager: Judge Roy Moore Was Not Banned from Mall

Alabama Senate candidate Judge Roy Moore was not banned from the Gadsden Mall as a report earlier this week claimed, according to the mall manager during the alleged time of the ban.
Barnes Boyle, 86, told local Alabama news station WBRC on Thursday that they kept track of reports and that Moore was never banned from the mall.

“Sure, it’s part of the job, yeah. We did have written reports and things, so, but to my knowledge, he was not banned from the mall,” he said during a brief interview.

WBRC Fox 6 News anchor Janet Hall said the station checked on the report in the New Yorker that alleged Moore had been banned from the mall in the 1980s.

“We cannot confirm that,” she said.

Boyle told the station he is a Roy Moore supporter and plans to vote for him in December.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/gadsden-mall-manager-roy-moore-not-banned-mall/

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The three statements from former mall employees quoted in the Moore press release:

-"In my 26 years working at Gadsden Mall, I never heard anything about Roy Moore being banned from the mall or any other mention of issues concerning him. As the Operations Manager overseeing Mall Security, I would have been aware of something like that." - Johnny Adams, employed by the Gadsden Mall for 26 years and was the Operations Manager for 14 years, overseeing mall security.

-"As an employee of the Gadsden Mall for Morrison's Cafeteria Corporation from the late 1970's through the mid-2000's, I would like to put forth a statement in regards to the allegations against Judge Roy Moore. During my time at the Gadsden Mall, I formed many lifelong relationships including one with Barnes Boyle and his wife, Brenda. Barnes Boyle was manager of the Gadsden Mall and Brenda was my manager at Morrison's Cafeteria for many years. Because of this relationship, I was abreast on the latest situations that happened throughout the Gadsden Mall during that time period. There was a prominent man of Etowah County, whom is now deceased that was banned for reasons such as the allegations against Judge Moore. However, due to respect for the family, I decline to reveal his name. Despite allegations against other patrons of the mall, I never heard of Roy Moore's name come in conversation with any such misconduct against women or a supposed banning from the Gadsden Mall." - Johnnie V. Sanders, employee of Gadsden Mall from late 70's to mid-2000's.

-"We did have written reports and things. To my knowledge, he {Moore} was not banned from the mall." - Barnes Boyle, Former Manager of the Gadsden Mall (1981-1986).
Said Doster in the statement, "The people of Alabama are tired of false accusations and one-sided reporting from the liberal media. "Truth matters or it doesn't and the Moore campaign will deliver the truth about the character of Judge Roy Moore to affirm what the people of Alabama are already convinced of."

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_campaign_disputes_re.html

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Former Gadsden mall manager says Roy Moore wasn't banned

Video interview with manager...

http://www.wbrc.com/clip/13905910/former-gadsden-mall-manager-says-roy-moore-wasnt-banned

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Roy Moore Slams America, Says 'Maybe Putin Is Right'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-slams-america-says-065530357.html


Roy Moore, the Republican candidate from Alabama vying for the U.S. Senate, once slammed the United States for promoting “a lot of bad things,” and praised Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In an interview over the summer that’s getting renewed attention this week, The Guardian quoted President Ronald Reagan as once calling the Soviet Union “the focus of evil in the modern world.” Reagan made the comment during his “evil empire” speech in 1983.

During an interview last summer with The Guardian newspaper, Republican candidate for U.S. Senate Roy Moore found similarities between himself and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“You could say that very well about America, couldn’t you?” Moore said. “We promote a lot of bad things.”


Moore then cited same-sex marriage as an example.

When questioned about the fact that Putin held similar views, Moore gave an unconventional answer for an American politician.

“Well, then maybe Putin is right,” Moore said. “Maybe he’s more akin to me than I know.”

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GOP turning into a bunch of back stabbers. This pedo commie lover needs to drop out.


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Just so I'm clear...the argument you're presenting by posting these links is "he was known for being creepy and hitting on teenage girls in the mall, and law enforcement was notified and kept an eye on him, to the point where it was known within the department that he was a pervert, but he was never officially banned"?

1) why would you bother making that defense?

2) why would you bother making that defense after recently taking heat from the board for praising and defending sexual predators?

You're not helping the case against you carrying yourself like a weird creep with admiration for sex offenders.

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I would be personally mortified if I ever found myself arguing "well, actually, the cops were just asked to monitor the pedophile, he wasn't *officially* banned".I'd have to take a shower and seek out some form of clergy.

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pedophiles are in the clergy though.


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Roy Moore is a bible thumping pedophilic neanderthal. Anyone who thinks this man's values and biblical rants translate to mainstream America's views is sadly mistaken. I can't wait for this election to be over so I can stop hearing about the asshat.

Win or lose, I don't really care what Alabama decides, Roy Moore should not be a Senator.

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Want to see the Trumpians screaming "Fake News" at Fox now, let's treat Fox's mistakes the same as CNN's.

Fox News issues correction on Roy Moore accuser yearbook ‘forgery’ headline

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/363990...orgery-headline

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So much for that claim.


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There are far too many holes in your lynch mob story.

The people of Alabama will elect the Judge.

Done Deal.

Now you can save your rude comments and name calling for the Ethics Hearing.

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Why point the finger at some of them rather than only one party? The bias isn't hard to see.

They're all perverts on matter which party they belong to. The only difference I see is that as of this moment, one party is trying to thin the herd while the other party is still trying to vote them into office.
If the guy is a perv he should step down, show me one person that has not said that.......

all anyone has said is they want proof before they hang a person.

so far, the proof that has been provided has been allegations, a yearbook, and mall ban story.

The yearbook is forged or changed, or whatever it is - questionable to say the very least, the allegations are from 30 years ago, and the mall story has been debunked by OAN and the manager of the mall and employees

Why will no one answer my question as to where are the more recent allegations? If the guy is pedo do you think he just stopped that behavior? seems weird. its not like chocolate, something you can give up for lent. Pedophilia is a sick mindset - you don't just "stop" being. Yet no one has come across a single accusation or proof of anything within 30 years timeframe, which by the way would alllllll be things that would not be able to take to court due to SOL. You guys are upset he cant be tried because of the SOL, yet it looks like there is a reason they don't want it to be tried.



You're lying.

You're flat out lying. And you should ask yourself why.

Generations - GENERATIONS- of Alabama cops have said on record that they were instructed to to keep Rot Moore away from young girls. This is on top of half a dozen accusers and 100+ corroborating witnesses.

At what point do you stop and think "oh, my God, I'm defending a pedophile in the name of politics"?

With 40...he sounds like a creepy pervert. But with you and Ted and others...it seems like you're just doing this because of politics. Y'all are smart and have souls.

And ask yourself why, and if it's worth it?


I have MAYBE 5 posts in this thread and I'm defending him? No spin doctor, I'm not, and I haven't read anything from any of the other people you accuse of defending him making the claim either. I have read a lot of posts saying this should be investigated and not tried in the court of public opinion.

Statute of Limitations or not, an investigation would reveal the truth. Then he'd either be vindicated or slink away in shame never to be heard from again.

You have to know that the news media isn't trusted, which is why this is such an issue.


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Trump fully endorsed Roy Moore last night.

RNC endorsed Moore.

Trump said they can’t afford that seat to go to a liberal.

You conservatives make me sick. Vote for a pedophile over a liberal, sending s clear message to the country that being a liberal is worse than touching little girls.

I am disgusted with conservatives and everyone who voted for this piece of trash President, as you have directly enabled this kind of behavior.


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Yea just like the people that endorsed Marion Berry.....LMAO

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Who the hell is marion berry. And why are you deflecting. Can’t ever stick to the topic and bring up someone I literally never heard of before as some sort of example.

But hey, defend the pedo all you want.

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SO ....I see topic is rage...hate.... disgust against anybody conservative or Trump maybe you should stick to the topic
It always comes to that point with you no matter what the topic is .

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SO ....I see topic is rage...hate.... disgust against anybody conservative or Trump maybe you should stick to the topic
It always comes to that point with you no matter what the topic is .


No, it's rage against people who support pedophiles. If you're being raged against, then you're standing on the wrong side of this issue.

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SO ....I see topic is rage...hate.... disgust against anybody conservative or Trump maybe you should stick to the topic
It always comes to that point with you no matter what the topic is .


No, it's rage against people who support pedophiles. If you're being raged against, then you're standing on the wrong side of this issue.


Just curious here, and I have no vote in Alabama. But, is it possible to support SOME of what a politician supports, and yet hate some things he's done in the past?

Or is that not possible?

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When it comes to pedophiles, no.

No no and hell no.

Hey, I know he touched somebody’s daughter and tried to get with underage girls at the mall, but at least he stands for the anthem.

That’s your logic right now.

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When it comes to pedophiles, no.

No no and hell no.

Hey, I know he touched somebody’s daughter and tried to get with underage girls at the mall, but at least he stands for the anthem.

That’s your logic right now.


Actually, that's not my logic right now.

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SO ....I see topic is rage...hate.... disgust against anybody conservative or Trump maybe you should stick to the topic
It always comes to that point with you no matter what the topic is .


No, it's rage against people who support pedophiles. If you're being raged against, then you're standing on the wrong side of this issue.


Just curious here, and I have no vote in Alabama. But, is it possible to support SOME of what a politician supports, and yet hate some things he's done in the past?

Or is that not possible?


I think there has to be a point where you draw the line somewhere. And if this isn't the point where you draw that line, I don't know if people have a line anywhere.

When you sell your own values down the river for pure political gain, I think that speaks volumes about ones' character.


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When it comes to pedophiles, no.

No no and hell no.

Hey, I know he touched somebody’s daughter and tried to get with underage girls at the mall, but at least he stands for the anthem.

That’s your logic right now.


Actually, that's not my logic right now.


Oh really?

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Just curious here, and I have no vote in Alabama. But, is it possible to support SOME of what a politician supports, and yet hate some things he's done in the past?

Or is that not possible?


You hate he’s a pedo, yet supports some of what he supports, like standing for the anthem as an example. Or anti abortion, or any of his other stances.

That’s absolutely you’re logic right now.

So I stand by my comments.

No, when it comes to child molesters and rapist, you can’t pick and choose. Voting for Moore is an Endorsement of pedophilia. You’re absolving him of any wrong doing when it comes to that. You’re saying “hey, what I support politically overrides whatever disgusting sicko thing you done to little girls”.

Please don’t go down this path.

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SO ....I see topic is rage...hate.... disgust against anybody conservative or Trump maybe you should stick to the topic
It always comes to that point with you no matter what the topic is .


No, it's rage against people who support pedophiles. If you're being raged against, then you're standing on the wrong side of this issue.


Just curious here, and I have no vote in Alabama. But, is it possible to support SOME of what a politician supports, and yet hate some things he's done in the past?

Or is that not possible?


I think there has to be a point where you draw the line somewhere. And if this isn't the point where you draw that line, I don't know if people have a line anywhere.

When you sell your own values down the river for pure political gain, I think that speaks volumes about ones' character.


That's fair.

And please note, somewhere in one of these threads about him, I have stated that I didn't think he should even continue his run.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
When it comes to pedophiles, no.

No no and hell no.

Hey, I know he touched somebody’s daughter and tried to get with underage girls at the mall, but at least he stands for the anthem.

That’s your logic right now.


Actually, that's not my logic right now.


Oh really?

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Just curious here, and I have no vote in Alabama. But, is it possible to support SOME of what a politician supports, and yet hate some things he's done in the past?

Or is that not possible?


You hate he’s a pedo, yet supports some of what he supports, like standing for the anthem as an example. Or anti abortion, or any of his other stances.

That’s absolutely you’re logic right now.

So I stand by my comments.

No, when it comes to child molesters and rapist, you can’t pick and choose. Voting for Moore is an Endorsement of pedophilia. You’re absolving him of any wrong doing when it comes to that. You’re saying “hey, what I support politically overrides whatever disgusting sicko thing you done to little girls”.

Please don’t go down this path.


And I stand by my QUESTION.

See my response to pit.

I'll try to find where I said, in some thread (maybe this one?) where I said he shouldn't run, or, continue his run.

So no, your logic is illogical.

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Ah, it was in the Franken thread.

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...our#Post1353789

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Hmmm... Al Franken immediately apologizes for his actions with an adult woman. Says he doesn't remember the kiss that way and the pic was meant to be funny but he shouldn't have done it. Sends sincere apology to accuser.

Now we can watch the GOP try to compare this to Roy Moore's numerous peophilic assaults. SMH at Al Franken.


As was said about Moore - he shouldn't even run - and I agree.

Now Franken - if things were equal-should resign immediately.

Things aren't equal, and please don't anyone assume I'm saying that. Moore - some underaged girls. I get it, get rid of him.

But, sexual assault is sexual assault. yes, it's worse when minors are involved - I agree.

But, it's not okay, ever.

The fact that Franken immediately apologized is telling....the fact that he says he doesn't remember it that way is...........an excuse. (especially if there's a picture of him fondling her when she was sleeping - I haven't seen it, but that's what I've heard)

I'm all for Moore not being elected/kicked out.

I'm also feeling the same way about Franken, and others, right now, Including Trump.

This crap has to stop.

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I took your question as a general question and gave a general reply. I don't fee like just because you asked the question that you support him. We often disagree but I didn't read more into it than what was there Bud.


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I took your question as a general question and gave a general reply. I don't fee like just because you asked the question that you support him. We often disagree but I didn't read more into it than what was there Bud.


swish did.


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When it comes to pedophiles, no.

No no and hell no.

Hey, I know he touched somebody’s daughter and tried to get with underage girls at the mall, but at least he stands for the anthem.

That’s your logic right now.


Actually, that's not my logic right now.


Now the race card comes out lol
Good luck with these guys .......

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I took your question as a general question and gave a general reply. I don't fee like just because you asked the question that you support him. We often disagree but I didn't read more into it than what was there Bud.


swish did.


because that’s his logic right now.

I’ve never seen so many excuses, deflections, spins, and whatabouts when it comes to voting in a pedohpile in my life.

I’m truly disgusted right now by the entire situation, from Moore, trump, and all the people that vote and support these clowns.


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That is not my logic, despite your intention of insisting it is. Period.

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