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John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
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It amazes me how quickly some of you turn on our guys. We are a young team and these guys have battled their asses off, try cheering for your team and bitch and whine when it is over Nevermind eff Dshon KKizer
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Hell of a way to preserve the first pick!
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Was Gordon even targeted in the second half?
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Everyone gets a participation trophy...
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All game long.. all game long.. And greg cant put his defense in position. smfh McCarthy adjusted. Williams didn't. Garrett nowhere to be found.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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You mean Gregg lost this one!!. He is the D coordinator.. Or are you trying to protect him!!.. His D giving up points all year!!
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woohoo man I love me some Kizer
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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Kizer... a turnover machine
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Can we start the discussion to fire Gregg Williams?
Find what you love and let it kill you.
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This is a mess. I'm better Jimmy is reallllllly regretting his announcement right about now.
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You mean Gregg lost this one!!. He is the D coordinator.. Or are you trying to protect him!!.. His D giving up points all year!! What I wrote was clear and hardly open to interpretation.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Can we start the discussion to fire Gregg Williams? I don't think he'll be back either way.
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Defense needs another stop..I see a loss in the last minute.
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1-28 You can spin it anyway you want it's still 1-28 !!! 
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All game long.. all game long.. And greg cant put his defense in position. smfh McCarthy adjusted. Williams didn't. Garrett nowhere to be found. Garrett again, silent as usual.
Find what you love and let it kill you.
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You mean Gregg lost this one!!. He is the D coordinator.. Or are you trying to protect him!!.. His D giving up points all year!! Maybe cause they are on the field so much! And still we are ranked in top 10 in defense. It's not Greg fault. Especially when you consider the secondary he was given
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Football is played for 60 minutes. A fact that is obviously lost on this entire team.
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Yea I know... I wanted to point out much you dont know what your talking about!!.. thanks!!
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You were wrong to say guys were ridiculous. No, I wasn't. At that point of the game, I was correct. They still played hard and as well as they have all season against a playoff contending team. It's okay to give the players credit in a game like today's. The old "you guys tried hard" trophy. So they must win before you can give them any credit? That's another example of my statement about some of you guys being ridiculous. Thanks.
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What was wrong with the announcement? Was the GM expected to make the Browns better in 2 days? Were the Browns better off waiting to bring in a GM in January or February with less time to get to know the current Browns roster and prepare for free agency and the draft ?
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Football is played for 60 minutes. A fact that is obviously lost on this entire team. Hue's gotta go. I can't believe this team still doesn't have the conditioning to play a full damn game.
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Got to feel like a winner for a little bit at least.
Its a bitter pill, but at least an improvement.
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All game long.. all game long.. And greg cant put his defense in position. smfh McCarthy adjusted. Williams didn't. Garrett nowhere to be found. Garrett again, silent as usual. I think Garrett is a bust. This is the first time I noticed it but he loafed on several plays today. It was particularly noticeable when he was being blocked one on one. He was not worth the first overall pick. Browns are going to Browns.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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What can Garrett do when they're getting the ball out of Hundley's hand in 1.5 seconds? Gregg couldn't adjust to the short passes because he's paranoid of giving up a deep pass, even though Hundley looked trash on the few deep passes he threw.
This isn't on anyone except McCourty (He's washed) and Williams. His defense was painfully easy to beat.
These coaches have to go. They're terrible. They're putting our players in the worst positions.
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You might say that... until you see how Gregg did not adjust his D. How they were throwing short and his DBs did not adjust. Or how about the play they scored on, just ram that play about 50 times during the game!!.. Please folks have this love affair with Gregg when his D is leaking all over the place.
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You were wrong to say guys were ridiculous. No, I wasn't. At that point of the game, I was correct. They still played hard and as well as they have all season against a playoff contending team. It's okay to give the players credit in a game like today's. The old "you guys tried hard" trophy. So they must win before you can give them any credit? That's another example of my statement about some of you guys being ridiculous. Thanks. Absolutely not, I was just trying to figure out which moral victory trophy I'd be putting in the trophy case this week.
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Game over in less than 2 minutes.
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Nobody gives a crap about feel good performances. Nobody feels bador cares about youth. This was decided!
They chose to do this and criticism is deserved. No organization feels bad for Cleveland because they're incompetent.
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Garrett nowhere to be found.
Just wait for the "he was double teamed all day" people
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What was wrong with the announcement? Was the GM expected to make the Browns better in 2 days? Were the Browns better off waiting to bring in a GM in January or February with less time to get to know the current Browns roster and prepare for free agency and the draft ? No, the announcement that Hue will be coming back next year. I love bringing in Dorsey, but you're kidding yourself if you think he watched that game thinking, "I'm so glad my career is shackled to these coaches. I get to bring in a brand new QB to run these plays and some new defenders to play in those coverages, this is great!" I won't be shocked if Dorsey is asking Haslam to reconsider his position on retaining Hue.
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Nobody gives a crap about feel good performances. Nobody feels bador cares about youth. This was decided!
They chose to do this and criticism is deserved. No organization feels bad for Cleveland because they're incompetent. Green Bay never doubted the outcome. Even 80 year old Brett Hundley was confident throughout. They were going against Hue Jackson after all.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Turn over by kiser ..game over
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Garrett nowhere to be found.
Just wait for the "he was double teamed all day" people He wasn't. I was watching. Wouldn't surprise me if the Shazier injury has him thinking of retiring.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Like watching ground hog day...
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Gregg Williams sucks!!.. He calls blitzes damn near every play and then wonders why the D is gassed!!.. And BTW.. His coverages were confusing Hudley at first, UNTIL Green bay adjusted.. Do we think Gregg Adjusted = NOPE!!
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If these games where they are in it for, ya know, some of the game,
If those are Hue Jackson wins, than this.. This must be a
A Hue Jackson Blowout!
Blame anybody else but Hue? Blame anybody else but Hue.
When:
When the Packers scored about the start of the 4th to make it a 7 point game.
The Browns didn't score another single point, 4th quarter or overtime!
But blame anybody else but Hue!
Browns make every other team look like a heck of a football team.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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QB,penalties,turn overs.game over.
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