DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Myles Garrett

Anybody have a clue what’s going on with him? Is he still battling an injury?

I’ve seen others notice the fact that he’s not winning one on one matchups. He’s not getting double teamed much. He looks to be having trouble setting the edge.

And he’s looked particularly bad ever since ogbah went down for the season.

He had maybe 1 or 2 qb pressures today. Just wondering what you guys thoughts are with regards to how Garrett is playing.

You would think a #1 overall pick would be in the running for ROY, but there’s like 5 other rookies playing better ball than him so far.

He played blah today. Like he was just there and that's it.

I'd worry about other players than him.

Ankle.

Looked just as good as the rest of the TEAM.

He should take his films and seek a critique from as many former D ends that'll see him. Almost seemed like he was playing ill or something.

Playing hurt? Wasn't worth the uniform. Looked indifferent.

Missing Britt?

Garrett only gets pressure from the DE position when he shoots the A gap after the snap. He's a bit slippery when he does that and shows good acceleration to the QB. He almost always impacts the throw when doing this.

Rushing from the DE position has been a colossal failure. He's consistently blocked one on one with ease. He doesn't use his hands to avoid or disengage blocks. He doesn't look like he uses his hands at all. If the shoulder dip does not work, he's normally not even a part of the play. He does not appear to have any other move besides the shoulder dip. He loafed on several plays today.

For me, he's been a crushing disappointment. #1 OVERALL picks are supposed to be impact players. He hasn't impacted a game yet. If someone wants to argue that point, I'd amend the statement to say he hasn't impacted the game to help the Browns win. No impact plays on impact downs within the game.

He needs more time, obviously. If he's playing hurt, that's unfortunate. But the whole point of drafting a guy that high is because he's not just the best college football player in the country, there's a big gap between him and everyone else. At least to the point that there should be some impact during his rookie year. And I'm just not seeing it.

People are going to think I'm being too harsh. I don't think I'm being harsh enough. I'm sick of losing. It sucks. And trust me, it brings me no pleasure at all to write this. As a Browns fan, I find it so unfair that our #1 overall pick DE isn't anywhere near in the running for DROY. And we are sitting here waiting for him to impact a single game with only 3 left to go. I find it disheartening, depressing, exhausting, pick your adjective.

Ogbah out has affected his production, whether it's a direct correlation or coincidence

I pimped Myles big time. But yeah, you're right. He was very, very disappointing today.

We desperately needed him to make some big plays in the second half when GB was mounting their comeback. One or two sacks by him changes the outcome of that game. He was picked that high to make those plays. He didn't even make one.

Disappointing.

I wasn't focused on Myles today, but nobody was going to get sacks against those quick short routes GB was using against us in the 2nd half.

They were doing those short routes because we were giving them to them.

Ogbah gone hurts him, and he is probably battling some residual ankle stuff.

For as much as he's been hyped before and after the draft he leaves a lot to be desired. I am impressed at times but not nearly enough.

Garrett isn’t 100% and hasn’t been all year.

It’s hard to play on one leg which is what he has been doing. He will be a force if he can ever get healthy

Rookie.

Bosa was much better as a rookie .... not even close ....

What does Bosa have to do with Garrett? geesh.

Id trade Garrett And Peppers for a broken knee Wentz. Heck. Id trade em both for Trubisky. We have got next to nothing from 3 first rounders no matter how u spin it.. Must be Hues fault I guess.

Wondering if this is a factor of rookie or attitude.

We draft em. They don't want to play here. *coughrosencough*

I don't think the latter is the issue.

Everyone keeps saying how much MG misses Ogbah but I think having Shelton out this week hurt more. Danny needs frequent double teaming. Him being out meant a lot more help on MG from guards.
He’ll be fine with a healthy interior line.

MG will be fine. First off I still don't think he is 100%. Secondly, he is the only player on D that our opponents have to plan for with all our injuries and thirdly, he is still learning. Let's not throw him under the bus. Please.

If the Browns got rid of him he goes to another team excels and these people complaining would complain the Browns let go of their good players!

We were expecting more than fine from him. Our front seven is supposed to be good,so he should be dominant this year.

So far he's no Bosa or Kahlil

He was the consensus #1 pick in the draft. I don't think anyone, including the so called "experts', thought we should take anyone else. I think he will be a very good player when we get our injured players back and with more experience. JMO

So is TJ Watt who the Steelers got 30 picks later than Garrett and who is the leading contender for the NFL defense rookie of the year award.

Who is TJ's supporting cast? Who is Garretts supporting cast.

Honestly I don't buy into the "when we get our injured players back" excuse...

I'm sick and tired off excuses...

He's not playing to the expectation levels, he has to step up his game...

He's the one supposed to make other better... He has to beat his guy on a consistent base, nothing to do with who he's playing with him.

And I don't think he has the excuse of us not playing an aggressive D.

Myles Garrett has been one of the best rookie edge defenders so far this season. If he hasn't met expectations, then your expectations are too high. He is a rookie on a horrible team.

Homes, I think he will be fine. Heck, I might have wrote more pro-posts about Myles than any other poster on the board this past off-season. I started pimping after I watched his first game in 2015. I was bummed he wasn't eligible for the draft that year.

So, I am not throwing him under the bus. I just think he needs to step it up in close games and make the big play. We really need him to be a difference maker in tight games.

I think he is a good kid and will work hard to improve his game. I think he will improve and become an impact player for us. He just simply needs to do it.

Our front 7 is not horrible, and he's being placed on a position to shine, if he doesn't its only up to him.

I would say that he's not even our best D player, so maybe my expectation were too high,but I think you have very low expectations.

We need a disruptor and a playmaker on D, Myles was drafted to be that player, and IMHO,he still has not showed us he can be that player.

Do we have any players you like?

Right now? Elite players I think we have Gordon (although I don't like him has a person) and JT if he returns

We have competent players in other positions, specially DL and OL.

But we are lacking Elite players, which MG should be and isn't yet, but I think he can get there providing he doesn't get contaminated with the losing mentality.

I have stated this before, I think Sachi was wrong with his approach to talent and on the other 1st round picks, but I think he did the right thing with MG.

But I don't think we should sugar coat the performance of any player,and make up excuses. IMHO MG has to step us his game, he has to be a top 5-10 pass rusher in this league,he has the potential....

He's the one who has to make other players look and play better.

I think the contaminating stench of Hues losing is affecting the mentality of Myles Garrett.

Some people just want to hear themselves type.

J/C

https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/939986679615631360

Hundley throwing chart.

1/6 over 10 yards.
23/28 under 10 yards.
9/10 behind the line of scrimmage.

I don't know why people are so mad at Garrett. Williams allowed short passes all day and wouldn't do a damn thing to prevent it. We know this is how it will be every week. He plays his safeties in his angel position, he preaches bend but don't break, he talks about not giving up big plays.

That's great, I like that we don't give up a bunch of deep plays, but it continues to result in Williams giving up high-percentage, easy throws that move the chains, rest the opposition defense, gas our defense, and prevent our pass rush from ever getting going.

I find it fascinating that we're 32nd in pressure but 1st in blitzing. Probably because being so obsessed with protecting downfield is resulting in an inability to defend anything short, and there is no point in blitzing if you're going to leave quick throws open.

Garrett isn't going to contribute until we force quarterbacks to hold the ball and take away the under. You have to force route development for pass rushers to really impact the game. As wonderful athletes they are, no pass rusher is getting to the quarterback if he's getting the ball out of his hand in 1.5 seconds.

I'll say it a million times - I won't be mad at Gregg Williams if we give up a big play. I will be made if teams continue to hit quick passes that are high percentage and march them down the field with minimal effort.

What do you mean? I understand talent is an issue, but all I want is the short ball covered for once. There are teams with a lot less talent who are capable of doing that. No doubt we need some additional talent in the secondary, but Gregg Williams doesn't seem willing to do it until he's got the greatest roster of all time.

Same thing happened last season with LA. Gregg Williams has to be able to cover it, otherwise he'll end up being cast off by Jackson, or he'll end up getting fired along with Jackson.