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No, times were different. It's not that the acts weren't offensive back then, it's just that men and society as a whole were less sensitive to these offenses. The sex drugs and rock-n-roll era of the 60s-70s-80s took the "all's fair in love and war" mentality to the next level. It was only later that things like defining date rape, recognizing these demeaning acts toward women, and sensitivity to sexual and equality issues like this came along.

For those who lived through those times, these changes that seem like common sense to younger people, are a radical change of course from back then. It's obviously all for the better but I get where some people are coming from on these issues.

I feel that what is happening right now has been triggered by the Trump effect. The pendulum has been swinging in this direction since the 80s, but Trump's statements have stirred a lot of old feelings about sexual divides and the #MeToo movement is a backlash to that meant to keep the pendulum swinging in the right direction. The problem is, imho, that we are seeing an extreme response to the voter approved voicing of an extreme old school view of women being objects or less than.

This too will pass.

Agree to disagree. It's always been outlandish. A lot of men and women just turned a blind eye and swept it under the rug. Not anymore.

No we agree. I said, "It's not that the acts weren't offensive back then". I meant it wasn't a deplorable thing to say. I understood what he meant and tried to convey that to you.

Doug Jones: 'I'm absolutely' willing to work with Trump

"If the president has things on his agenda that I think are good for the people of Alabama, then I'm absolutely going to work there with him," Jones said on NBC

He is willing to work with President Trump and support GOP policies if they benefit his constituents.

Alabama has a large Defense industry and he wants to see those dollars coming here.

Yet the POTUS and the entire GOP doesn't trust the elected democrat to give him a vote on the middle class Tax increase reform bill over the interim and non elected republican holding the place card in Alabama.

That's not what he is saying, he is saying that it was a normal occurrence then. It used to legal to not wear seatbelts or have kids in carseats then either, should everyone over 50 receive tickets in the mail for that?

Sexual misconduct is never a normal occurrence. How deplorable for anyone to suggest it's a normal occurrence.

how old are you 12?

Old enough to know sexual misconduct was never a normal occurrence.

Are you old enough to know that, sadly, it was, and IS still, a common occurrence?

apparently not. Ever watch madmen? lol.

just because something is bad doesn't mean it wasn't normal. Slavery was the worst thing the world has ever seen in our history - Yet it a having slaves was a normal occurrence 200 years ago.

Yes.

But it still goes on today. Labor slave, and sex slave.

Yes a common occurrence. Like slavery a common occurrence. But never a normal occurrence.

You guys make this too easy.

You obviously don't even duck when a point flies over your head.

Moore tells supporters 'battle is not over' in Senate race

https://www.yahoo.com/news/moore-tells-s...--election.html

like he treated his victims, he has a hard time accepting the word "no".

Yes, the longer he drags this out the longer it will take to seat poor Douglas in the Senate.

Ahhh, Politics.

No it doesn't lol

Delays in seating a Senator is not unheard of. According to CNN, Sen. Scott Brown, a Massachusetts Republican, waited 16 days from his election to his swearing-in while Sen. Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat, faced a 15-day wait when he was elected in 2013. And Sen. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, waited 21 days between being elected to replace John Kerry and taking office in 2013.

Without Moore conceding the election, doesn’t the state of Alabama have to certify the election before Jones can be seated? From what I heard that won’t happen until after the new year.

Yes. What I have read says it could be January 3rd.

There is a window of time it has to be certified by according to the AL AG. I thought they said the 28th but that might have been the beginning of the window.

Democrats want Doug Jones seated right away. The GOP wants to finish a tax overhaul.

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/13/16770210/doug-jones-sworn-in-alabama-senator

Looks like Jan. 3rd is the latest. December 22nd would be the earliest.

There are now rumors this may not happen at all as Dougie has not produced his Birth Certificate and may have been born in Kenya.

j/c

"God is in control."
-Roy Moore

"Roy was right. God was in control. What he didn’t realize was, She’s black...”
-J K Rowling

God a woman! Too Much! You dug deep but it was funnahy!

I heard it on the radio on my way home from work.

L'dMAO

Came home, did a quick Google.
It's for realz.

How can the POTUS support this POS and not speak up against him? Probably because, it's what he would do and has done.


Roy Moore Sues to Block Certification of Alabama Senate Election Results

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Roy S. Moore, the first Republican to lose a United States Senate race in Alabama in 25 years, moved late Wednesday to block state officials from certifying the victory of his Democratic rival on Thursday afternoon because of “systematic voter fraud.”

In a complaint filed in the circuit court here in Alabama’s capital, Mr. Moore’s campaign argued that such fraud had tainted the Dec. 12 special election, which Mr. Moore lost to Doug Jones by fewer than 22,000 votes, and that the Alabama authorities had inadequately investigated claims of misconduct.

If the election is prematurely certified, Mr. Moore’s lawyers wrote, he will “suffer irreparable harm” and be “denied his full right as a candidate to a fair election.”

John H. Merrill, the Alabama secretary of state, has dismissed complaints, from Democratic and Republican critics, of election fraud. In an interview on Dec. 15, Mr. Merrill, a Republican who voted for Mr. Moore, flatly declared: “I have not seen any irregularities or any inconsistencies that are outside the norm.”

In a text message early Thursday, Mr. Merrill said he did not intend to postpone the certification proceedings that would ultimately allow Mr. Jones to take office.

Birds of a feather.....

Yep, still on the job.

Democrats stick together like birds of a feather.

You must have missed the memo. He resigns on Jan. 2

While Trump is still trying to get them elected.

Good for him.

I want him to exhaust every single option, so that when he's done, de's DONE... once and for all.

Roy Moore loses lawsuit seeking new election

An Alabama judge on Thursday denied an effort by the defeated Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore to block the state from certifying Democrat Doug Jones as the winner of the special election held earlier this month, The Associated Press reported.

Alabama state officials certified Jones, the first Democrat elected to the Senate from Alabama since 1992, as the winner Thursday afternoon.

Earlier in the day, Moore had filed a lawsuit attempting to block state officials from declaring Jones the official victor in Alabama’s Senate special election, instead demanding an investigation into alleged voter fraud.

Jones defeated Moore in the Dec. 12 election by slightly fewer than 21,000 votes, a margin of 1.5 percent, but Moore has yet to concede the race. He has continued to ask donors to contribute to his “election integrity fund,” pledging to pursue “voter fraud and other irregularities at polling locations throughout the state."

“This is not a Republican or Democrat issue as election integrity should matter to everyone,” Moore said in a statement Wednesday announcing the lawsuit, which, in addition to seeking a delay in the certification of Jones as the winner, also sought a fraud investigation and a redo of the election.

Sam Coleman, a spokesman for Jones, said in a statement Thursday: “This desperate attempt by Roy Moore to subvert the will of the people will not succeed. The election is over, it’s time to move on.”

Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill, a Republican who had said before the election that he would vote for Moore, told the AP that his office had no evidence of voter fraud but would look into any that Moore submitted. Still, Merrill said, Moore’s lawsuit would not delay Jones’ ascension to the Senate.

“It is not going to delay certification, and Doug Jones will be certified [Thursday] at 1 p.m. and he will be sworn in by Vice President Pence on the third of January,” Merrill said.

Moore, a former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was considered a heavy favorite to win the Senate seat in deep-red Alabama after emerging from a GOP primary in which he defeated incumbent Sen. Luther Strange. But allegations that Moore had molested and sexually assaulted girls as young as 14 when he was in his 30s surfaced as he campaigned against Jones, accusations that seemed to flip the race in favor of the Democrat.

Jones’ victory has spurred concern among some in the Republican Party about the possibility of a Democratic wave in the 2018 midterm elections. It has also fueled further the ongoing divisions within the GOP as the party’s wings cast blame toward one another over the loss of the Senate seat once held by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/28/roy-moore-lawsuit-alabama-race-doug-jones-319544?lo=ap_a1


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Alabama certifies Jones’ Senate victory

The state of Alabama on Thursday certified Democrat Doug Jones as the winner of this month’s special Senate election after a judge denied Republican Roy Moore’s effort to halt the process via a last-ditch lawsuit charging widespread voter fraud.

Moore, who has refused to concede since the December 12 vote, filed a last-minute lawsuit late Wednesday seeking to delay certification of Jones’ win and launch a fraud investigation into the election results. But the certification went on as planned on Thursday, with Merrill, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and state Attorney General Steve Marshall — all Republicans — signing off on the proceedings. Shortly before the 1 p.m. Central time event, a Montgomery County circuit court judge had denied Moore’s attempt to obtain a restraining order to stop the state’s action.

The certification sets the stage for Jones to be sworn into the Senate next week following the protracted, high-profile special election. Moore, a judge and longtime conservative celebrity in Alabama, triumphed over appointed Sen. Luther Strange during a primary earlier this year and was widely expected to win the special election until he was accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women, when Moore was in his 30’s and the women were as young as 14 years old.

Jones, meanwhile, ran a low-key campaign and avoided railing against President Donald Trump, who won Alabama with more than 60 percent of the vote in 2016. His ascension to the Senate will reduce Republicans’ majority from 52 seats to a narrow 51 seats, placing a new hurdle in front of the GOP’s legislative ambitions in 2018.

"I am looking forward to going to work for the people of Alabama in the new year," Jones said in a statement released to the media immediately after the vote was certified. "As I said on Election Night, our victory marks a new chapter for our state and the nation. I will be an independent voice and work to find common ground with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to get Washington back on track and fight to make our country a better place for all."

Jones' victory also dealt a blow to Trump, who vocally supported Moore even after many Republicans — including Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby — refused to vote for Moore or said he should leave the Senate race because of the allegations against him.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/28/doug-jones-alabama-senate-certified-319601?lo=ap_a1

it's funny that he claims to be a man of God, yet won't take the hint that God gave him: he lost.

...

...to ride off into that sunset.

The creepy guy who cheerleads for sexual predators and thinks rapists are "tough" and "cool" is here to talk to us about proper conduct.

I guess if Franken had someone to cover for him he could have continued his attacks too.

Tons of people covered for him. There was a large contingent going to bat for him.

There's no shortage of people like you who have zero morals or deep thought, and are perfectly willing to blurt things in their defense.

You'll defend rapists, murderers, pedophiles, whoever, as long as they fill the basic beta male John Wayne fantasies of what a man should be, like Trump and that rapist war criminal you fawned over ..and there's no shortage of that on the left either.

Tons of people went to bat for Franken.

I wasn't talking about people backing him up.

He lacked a low life who would cover for his attacks so he could continue them until someone with guts turned him in.

That is what I'm talking about.

Maybe he should have called you.