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You believe what you were told "there was more than 2 million cases of voter fraud in the 2016 general election and they all voted for the democrat.

Just trying to help you keep your thread together as you spun it out of control. It would be nice to discuss but that can't happen if you are the only one talking out of your mouth and both sides of your neck. The rest of us can't follow as you turn one thread into 7.
just sayin'

Did u leave your Saul Alinsky to english for dummies book at home today bro? ...

I have my copy ... if theirs anything you’d like me to translate for U coming from your boy Swish please let me know ... always willing to lend a hand ...

I have asked you before not to mention that he is my son. He doesn't know yet.

So your the one that gave him his Saul Alinsky decoder ring when he was a kid? ... what the hell were u thinking ...

Can you translate your own posts first?

It worked to distract him while I tried to close the mouths on his neck.

...

Mouths on his neck ... that was good bro ... thanks for the laugh ...

If u happenend to bring in your STONER to ENGLISH for STONERS translator ....

Please go give CHS a hand ... seems he’s struggling with 1 + 1 = 2 again and hes blaming it on the written word this time ....

having another conversation with yourself?

starting to get really weird. you do this every time you take an L.

Diam, you're so sozzled that to call your posts "written word" is not only a gross exaggeration, but an insult to the language itself. Chaucer is easier to read than your posts. You are a time aberration from before the great vowel shift.

Ahh ... that explains everything. Your father failed to close yours.

This is probably one of the most off topic threads form the very first post on, I must say, even for him. Which is sad, because this a pretty important report.

but to get on topic.....

40, China has denied these reports (or at least has denied they are breaking the sanctions by the letter of which it is written). If China is proven to have been breaking the sanctions, what do you suggest course of action is?

you do realize i asked that very question already?

spreading false narratives yet again.

There are too many what if's for me to answer that right now.

-Did they actually violate the UN sanctions?
-The UN sanctions did not call for the freezing to death of all the people of NK so some oil must get through. Do we have a secret agreement with China on how to provide it?
-Did you see where Kim had his top General killed? Was China working with him to take over when they killed Kim?
-Are we aware of this so we aren't pushing anything right now?
-We really have very little clue of what secret agreements we have with China when it comes to NK.

And you called me a dick? Classic!

i guess i'm struggling to understand how my stoner english seems to be worlds better than his sober english.

one would think it would be reverse. but hey it's all good.

I don't really do spelling smack but he does take it to epic proportions.

I find it funny how Diam may leave a lot to be desired when it comes to spelling but I have never, never known him to be wrong on Character issues.

just sayin'

Since you have never actually met any of us and don't really know any of us, I don't think you have a clue except what you read on a message board.

But Diam and I have met and for the most part we get along just fine.

I’d say we used to ... not so sure anymore ...

Sad but true ..

Another thing I am is BRUTALLY HONEST 40 ...

Spelling, grammar is a sure fire sign of intelligence ... just like college production = NFL success ... ....

Just ask one of the “intelligent” ones about that ... ...

this comment officially proves something i've always theorized:

Swish is to Diam as Obama is to Trump.

no wonder you voted for Trump. you might as well be the same person.

can't stop mentioning me no matter where we're at, what we're talking about, or who we're discussing.

your obsession with mentioning me in every post you make is creepy. please stop. following me around in different sub-forums is creepy. i'mma start calling you the Roy Moore of DT.

Well you really can't do that. I mean you're over 15.

It could be more of a chianti and fava beans love affair.

Chianti - (key-on-tea - phoentic version to not leave anyone out)

Trump 'disappointed' in China over NKorea sanctions

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disappointed-china-over-nkorea-sanctions-190717986.html

So... doesn’t sound like any adverse action will be taken against China.

Only thing we could try against China would be to move whatever manufacturing of whatever we buy from there to somewhere else.

Wouldn't try anything military against a country that has that expendable a population.

Talk about being overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

I ageee. This doesn’t require a military solution.

While I agree hitting them in the pockets is the best way, how do we accomplish that without taking a hit in our own economy, atleast potentially?

I suspect there are several populations around the world that could use a boost in their manufacturing sector.

Trouble is, whatever cost increase a product might have to move their operation would just remain there once the transition is complete.

But it would be worth the pain in the pocket rather than in real casualties to send the message that needs to be sent.

China would be upset if we ran up into Africa and started stealing their base.

We should've been in Africa to begin with, but that's another topic.

I would love that, I don't know what it is, but people of faith like myself just have a heart for that continent and the poverty that goes on there.

Anything to keep people from starving.

what has always bothered me is how certain nations approach africa compared to the middle east.

Africa is rich in natural resources of all kinds, it's population WANTS to be like the west, embraces western ideology and economic practices, and they have a heavy population of christians.

yet they get put on the backburner, while muslims nations who hate our guts, bomb us repeatedly, wants to be isolated from the rest of the world, and have the worst human rights violations out of any region get the most attention and financial assistance.

Preachin' to the choir my friend!

One thing I always thought might've been a contributing factor was the ethnic cleansing that goes on.

Don't know how close all that is to the people that like us.

China on Friday denied reports it has been illicitly selling oil products to North Korea, after U.S. President Donald Trump said he was not happy that China had allowed oil to reach the isolated nation.

South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper this week quoted South Korean government sources as saying that U.S. spy satellites had detected Chinese ships transferring oil to North Korean vessels about 30 times since October.

U.S. officials have not confirmed details of this report. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters she had noted recent media reports including suggestions a Chinese vessel was suspected of transporting oil to a North Korean vessel on Oct. 19.

"The Chinese side has conducted immediate investigation. In reality, the ship in question has, since August, not docked at a Chinese port and there is no record of it entering or leaving a Chinese port," Hua said.

She said she was not aware if the vessel had docked at the port in other countries but the relevant media reports "did not accord with facts".

"China has always implemented U.N. Security Council resolutions pertaining to North Korea in their entirety and fulfills its international obligations. We never allow Chinese companies and citizens to violate the resolutions," Hua said.

"If, through investigation, it's confirmed there are violations of the U.N. Security Council resolutions, China will deal with them seriously in accordance with laws and regulations."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/29/after-tr...orth-korea.html

This is one of my favorite posts on this forum. The mental gymnastics needed to create it was Olympic level.

he went Simone Biles on us.

The problem here is that it isn't just manufacturing. China also has a highly educated sector of their society, especially engineers. They've got the best of both worlds as far as cheap manufacturing goes - a huge amount of people that can design the stuff as well as a very, very cheap labor force to make it.

Steve Jobs talked about this - the US doesn't have nearly the number of qualified engineers that China does. It wasn't just the cheap manufacturing that took Apples business to China.

j\c
Trouble is you can see that in every major city and universities controlled by the progressives are not looking to educate but to indoctrinate their followers to keep them in line as you can see just on this board alone.
IMHO

Things are getting interesting ... very very interesting ... this is some unusually spicy stuff ...

Were playing paddy cake with China ...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/29/...th-koreans.html

South Korea holding crew of ship that allegedly gave oil to North Koreans

The crew of a Hong Kong-flagged ship that allegedly violated U.N. sanctions by transferring oil to a North Korean vessel in October is being held in South Korea until a full inspection is sent to the Security Council, officials announced Friday.

The Lighthouse Winmore is believed to have transferred about 600 tons of refined petroleum products to the North Korean ship, the Sam Jong 2, in international waters in the East China Sea on Oct. 19, after leaving the South Korean port of Yeosu, a South Korean Foreign Ministry official told the Associated Press.

The announcement came on the same day Defense Secretary James Mattis told Fox News that he believes the world will exert “increased pressure” on North Korea in the coming months following the recent maritime incidents.

South Korean customs authorities said they boarded the ship and interviewed crew members after they returned to Yeosu on Nov. 24. South Korea formally seized the ship after the U.N. Security Council on Dec. 22 imposed new sanctions on North Korea that allow member states to seize, inspect and freeze vessels that are suspected of transferring banned goods to or from North Korea, the official said. He spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity, citing office rules.

The ship's 25 crew members — 23 of them Chinese nationals and two from Myanmar — are being held at Yeosu but will be allowed to leave South Korea after authorities are finished investigating them, the official said. South Korea plans to report the results of its inspection to the U.N. Security Council's sanctions committee.

The ship, which also transferred oil to three other non-North Korean ships, was chartered by Taiwan's Billions Bunker Group and stopped in South Korea to load up about 14,000 tons of Japanese oil products. It claimed its destination as Taiwan when leaving Yeosu on Oct. 15, the official said.

The official said it hadn't been confirmed whether the Sam Jong 2 returned to North Korea after receiving oil from the Lighthouse Winmore.

The U.S. Treasury Department last month sanctioned six North Korean shipping and trading companies and 20 of their vessels, and published photos of what it said was a North Korean vessel on Oct. 19 possibly transferring oil to evade sanctions. The Treasury Department identified the North Korean ship in the photos as Rye Song Gang 1.

North Korea has come under heavy sanctions imposed by the U.N. Security Council as it accelerated efforts to expand its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program. In recent months, the North conducted its most powerful nuclear test to date and flight-tested intercontinental ballistic missiles three times, raising concerns it's closer than ever toward gaining a military arsenal that can viably target the United States.

Ship-to-ship trade with North Korea at sea is prohibited under U.N. sanctions adopted on Sept. 11.

The South Korean revelations of the ship inspection came hours after President Donald Trump criticized China following previous reports that Chinese ships transferred oil to North Korean vessels at sea.

Trump said on Twitter that China had been "Caught RED HANDED," adding that he was "very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea."

China accounts for the vast majority of North Korea's external trade and oil supplies, according to the Associated Press.

Exclusive: Russian tankers fueled North Korea via transfers at sea - sources

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-russian-tankers-fueled-north-korea-via-transfers-210120289.html

Will Trump sanction Russia, as well?

He hasn’t even implemented the sanctions congress approved months ago. Will Trump make good on his word?

All signs point to ‘no.’

To be honest I’m surprised they don’t have a pipeline into NK already that they’d have to use ships to get it to them.

Trump will have to check that with President Putin first.