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I'd rather have someone better. Like Mayfield.
I don't want to be snarky, but Cousins isn't exactly Charlie Frye. I haven't watched much of Mayfield (college ball isn't that interesting to me). What makes Mayfield so good? Please don't say "he's a winner!". Leadership, terrific arm strength, accuracy, he can read the defense, great passer, very good pocket awareness, and excellent under pressure. He's a two time walk on and only walk on Heisman winner. He is a football first player and does the things necessary to be a winner. So basically, because "he's a winner". Can't make this stuff up folks. No. You certainly can't.
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Mayfield is a good player but as of now, he's not the second coming.
Cousins is a proven talent. Not Tom Brady but not 2017 Kizer either. I'd rank Cousins in the similar to Stafford column QB, good enough to better.
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There is NO way Cousins comes to the city where careers die...
The starter will be whatever QB we draft at #1. I presume Hue will do the same as he did this year and ask our bright and shiny new QB to throw the ball virtually every down.
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I think the most interesting option is Bridgewater.
Only Bridgewater and Cousins would preclude drafting a QB at 1. Haslam will not pay for Cousins.
It will be interesting. I don't want Cousins but Haslam would absolutely pay for him if his GM and coach want him. Why don't you want Cousins? He threw for over 4000 yards this year with NO one to throw the ball to. Not that he would come here. No one with half a brain will come to the team that kills careers. He can go a lot of places that are better than here. But I'd love to have him. Also, he's a West Coast QB and while Hue can run the WCO he won't. So Cousins doesn't fit our HC.
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I bet if Hue had his way we'd draft Lamar Jackson ... he's got the skill set he wants, but maybe not the body type
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You must be a Hue lover... Because I don't think a rookie QB should call his own plays (whatever it is you claim you meant, that is what you said) ... that means I am a Hue lover? That's your take from my response?
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I bet if Hue had his way we'd draft Lamar Jackson ... he's got the skill set he wants, but maybe not the body type Hue's really only coached traditional drop back passers. I think he wants Rosen.
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Josh Rosen will hopefully be our starting qb.
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Josh Rosen will hopefully be our starting qb. Haven't you heard that he doesn't want to come here? Get over it!
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1. Tony... R-E-L-A-X lol
2. some of you put down others opinions but not with football just insults
3. device asking cfr to post football... all he has is stats and Mayfield is like a stat heaven kind of guy so he's got nothing and yes I insulted him but he didn't give a football opinion at all... 
4. To he who was asking for Mayfield to call his own plays. Note, he doesn't call them in college I don't expect him to call them in the NFL. He looks to the HC who signals him to change a play or keep the call.
5. Mayfield impresses me with his RELEASE...he gets it out fast without a major windup and with some zip on it. Goes through progression throws on the run accurately, and has good POST SNAP reads best I've seen this year.
Accurate, like no other passer in this class. He hits what he is looking at without thinking. Is he 100% no he is not he will miss a WR here n there.
Punishment, I don't think there is one QB who has taken the punishment he has this season. Note in last nights game when the Big DE jumped on Mayfield with his KNEES under the guise that OH HE WAS BLOCKED so no penalty. I don't think Mayfield was the same after that hit he was hurting.
I watched a lot of Mayfield cause I didn't really know him and heard talk so watched at least 7 of his games this year. Didn't really watch many QBs at least not close to that to be certain on their talent.
Out of the others the guy who impressed me the most on becoming a stud NFL QB is Browning of Washington Huskies. Of course he is staying in college. But I like him over Rosen, Darnold or Allen kid.
As for Mayfield its not his winning although he won with less a team than anyone (his defense sucked) and his OL is not as good as some think. RBs, WRs, TE he had studs. But its his accuracy no only his completion percentage which has him throwing over 10 yards than I think any other QB on the list. But its how he gets it in the Receivers hands so that they can get the ultimate YAC out of the catch.
What I would love to see... Rosen and Giants fall in love with each other. We give all appearances that we love Rosen.
We trade #1 to Giants get their #2...swap our #33 for their #35 and possibly add in a 4th rounder and we get Eli Manning and his high 2 year salary that the Giants gain in cap room.
We draft Barkley RB at #2 and then Mayfield at #4...with I think Tampa who has their QB picking #3. I don't think anyone is going to move up and give a lot for Mayfield...NFL GMs are very snobbish on QB height why btw Rodgers dropped to 22?
This would be our dream situation. Eli still has game and quite frankly with Joe Thomas coming back we would have the best OL and best blind side protection he has had his entire career.
Add in a RB like Shaquan who every now and then we have a wide open hole for Crowell where he goes and gets 10+ yards...well 9 out 10 times with Barkley's 4.3 speed IN PADS...takes it to the HOUSE. He will be in the 4.2s at the Combine! at 230+ with excellent vision (you know like the backside once in a while Crowell!) and great hands.
Duke in the slot with Gordon and Coleman along with Higgins as #4 and we got Njoku and Devalve...I think ELI will have a field day if you ask me!
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Is Eli a FA? I haven't even kept track
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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No ...
Hes a pipe dream at best .... and thats fine since his best years are way behind him ... Eli has been BAD for 3 years now .... he’s not very good anymore ...
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I bet if Hue had his way we'd draft Lamar Jackson ... he's got the skill set he wants, but maybe not the body type Hue's really only coached traditional drop back passers. I think he wants Rosen. I also think he'd be against taking a risk. We need a "now" quarterback for (H)Jackson to have any future with the Browns. He can't afford another development quarterback being thrown in too soon.
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I thought Mayfield showed zero skills today that would translate to the NFL. You didn't watch the game then I take it. Oh he watched the game and so did I. Other than that first drive, he didn't play lights out. People seem to have erased from their minds the times he threw into double coverage. The huge overthrow that led to an interception. While I won't say that he can't or won't be a good NFL QB, he will have to change his game a lot for his talent to transfer. He has all of the same question marks that all spread QB's face. I don't believe he's a legitimate top 10 pick but the need for QB is so huge in the NFL that anything is possible. He did seem to move better and scramble better than he did against the cops when he was arrested though. But then again, he was drunk when that happened. So there's that. lol
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No ...
Hes a pipe dream at best .... and thats fine since his best years are way behind him ... Eli has been BAD for 3 years now .... he’s not very good anymore ...
I'd probably agree with the last statement, at least when I've seen him. I'd prefer Alex Smith, Keenum, or Cousins probably (though I doubt ANY want to be here)
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J/C Some interesting discussion to add to this thread, courtesy of the dudes at Optimum Scouting. Essentially: 1. Darnold is returning to school. 2. Rosen's character concerns are legitimate according to sources from college and high school. 3. Mayfield is a legitimate top 15 pick, but it is "not likely" the Browns will want to draft him in the top five. 4. Lamar Jackson is an NFL quarterback, but not to all teams. There is only enough interest that he likely won't have to make a positional change. 5. Unlikely Josh Allen will be a top 10 selection. NFL quarterback predictions - Rosen - Giants. Mayfield - Redskins or Broncos. Allen - Steelers. Jackson - Jets. Rudolph - Chargers. White - Bills. Falk - Patriots. As for Cousins and Alex Smith, the prediction is Cousins heads to Denver and Smith heads to Washington. Bills and Chiefs are both expected to have interest in Case Keenum. Somewhat off topic regarding quarterbacks: Minkah Fitzpatrick isn't a top 10 pick after "learning NFL teams' grades." Surprisingly, little reading about the Browns when it comes to real projections. The only thing noted was Barkey is in play at #4 but the team doesn't value runners that high, and Mayfield is a real possibility. That doesn't leave a whole lot. With that said, I'll interject my own opinion. 1. If it comes down to Washington and Denver for the signature of Kirk Cousins, the Browns can financially blow them out of the water. Denver, especially, would have to lose talent to gain Cousins. I still don't see either being better options than Cleveland. Both Washington and Denver have struggled around their quarterback. The Browns have too, but the Browns have both the cap space and an extreme number of draft selections to change that. 2. If the Browns don't get a free agent QB, are they really going to mess around when it comes to the draft? Is Mayfield really unlikely to be taken? Is Rosen really just going to be handed to the Giants? I'm just not seeing it. Personally, I think the only thing worse than the Browns drafting a bust at QB would be not taking one at all - the fans will burn the building down if they don't reach on a QB, regardless of who it is. 3. Williams being mentioned as the first overall pick is obvious, given Dorsey's first overall selection when joining the Chiefs was a tackle. However, this isn't the 2013 draft when Geno Smith and E.J Manuel were the top selections. The only way the Browns add Williams and Barkley is if, 1) They land a high value QB via trade or free agency or, 2) They love Kizer, which I'm not seeing, and I'm the president of the "LEAVE DESHONE ALONE!" fan club. 4. Again, not QB related, but I hate that they mentioned MJ Stewart as a potential first round pick. He and Sony Michel were two of my "Must consider in round two" targets. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl...mv130v4xuwokguq
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I like a lot of QB's in this draft, but each one has a question mark.
I'd feel a lot better if we hedge our bets with a decent veteran.
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The only real fault that sticks out in my mind here is that they feel Rosen is worth the #2 to the Giants but not worth the #1 to the Browns. If the Giants feel he's worth the #2 there's zero reason to think the Browns wouldn't believe he's worth the #1. Sashi is gone.
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Is Eli a FA? I haven't even kept track No he has 2 years left on his contract. Its obvious though that the Giants are going to take QB in the draft and that is why I made the dream scenario (my dream) of the Giants going all in on Rosen and we swap picks 1st to their 2nd overall. And our 33 with their 34 in the second round. Throw in maybe one of our 4th rounders and we would Get ELI. They would get big time cap space.
Then in our scenario we take Saquan with the #2 pick and Mayfield with the #4 pick. Just daydreaming out loud which is dangerous to share...lol
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Rosen - Giants. Mayfield - Redskins or Broncos. Allen - Steelers. Jackson - Jets. Rudolph - Chargers. White - Bills. Falk - Patriots.So what they are saying that with the #1, #4, #33 and #35 picks in the draft we are seriously going to walk away without taking a Franchise QB.
Is this guy a joke and think we are just FOOLS???
I'm sick of these so called self proclaimed experts. They are Bozo's to the nth degree
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If they were that good they'd be working in the NFL. There's no way Rosen is good enough to be drafted by the Giants at #2 and not be drafted by us at #1.
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Sashi's gone. I think Dorsey will take Rosen.
The character thing is so overblown. He isn't getting arrested. He isn't mocking other players. He hasn't raped women.
The dude is intelligent and expresses his opinions on social and political issues. Big freaking deal!
In my opinion, he is by far and away the clear-cut first pick in the draft. I don't even think it is close.
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Hope you are right...saw him one half so I don't have a clue and I guess they didn't make a bowl game I was looking for them but couldn't find them.
I do think he will be the consensus Overall #1 pick. Whether he is good for us or not time will tell.
What I do know in the first rounds of RUMOR CRAPOLA. It was stated that Hue likes Rosen and Dorsey does not. So don't know what to make of that???
Really wished that Browning would have come out...it is wise of him to stay another year after shoulder surgery I think last year. By his Bowl game he was one of the best I saw play all year. He will be the over all #1 pick next year not Darnold.
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I figured Palmer would be done
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The only real fault that sticks out in my mind here is that they feel Rosen is worth the #2 to the Giants but not worth the #1 to the Browns. If the Giants feel he's worth the #2 there's zero reason to think the Browns wouldn't believe he's worth the #1. Sashi is gone. Probably has more to do with the rumours of him avoiding the Browns than anything. Am I paranoid, or is it weird he hasn't said something? It takes a minute to get on Twitter and put an end to the speculation. Sam Darnold got the same rumours, and he too multiple opportunities to specifically say it was incorrect. Meanwhile, Rosen is dodging the question and talking about wanting to go lower in the draft if he likes the fit better. That's concerning, imo.
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The Redskins will pay an unprecedented price for betting against their franchise quarterback.
The question is whether Washington's twice-backfired gamble will leave Kirk Cousins overcompensated as the highest-paid player in NFL history or, as an alternative, leave the organization empty-handed at pro sports' most complex, influential and valuable position.
Forced to undergo a three-year audition as the stand-in for fallen franchise savior Robert Griffin III, Cousins has entered the new year peeking over the tips of a royal flush in his poker hand.
Since replacing Griffin to start the 2015 season, Cousins ranks third among qualifying NFL quarterbacks in completion percentage (67.0) and sixth in passer rating (97.5) -- rivaling two-time MVP Aaron Rodgers in both categories. Over that 48-game sample size, he also ranks an impressive fifth in adjusted net yards per attempt, a discerning metric that rewards a strong touchdown-to-interception ratio and punishes sacks taken. Cousins is just the 11th quarterback in history to reach the 4,000-yard passing mark in three consecutive seasons, joining a host of current and future Hall of Famers.
The key to understanding the ever-polarizing quarterback's value lies in his Tom Brady-like devotion -- bordering on obsession -- to polishing his skill set and phasing out weaknesses in his game.
Not long after Cousins displaced Griffin to earn one of the league's coveted 32 QB openings, he approached Brady seeking answers from on high. How long will I have to wait for my own epiphany?, the impatient young Jedi wondered. When will it click? Unlocking the secrets to football's version of "the Force," quarterback Yoda emphasized the importance of "the process."
"Hey, it's still clicking," Brady instructed. "It's a process. It takes time and each year you're better than the last."
Cousins took that guidance to heart, spending the next three years slavishly devoted to the grinding process of gradual improvement.
To that end, the game films show obvious growth and steady development in vital areas such as pocket toughness, downfield production and the ability to elevate the play of his surrounding talent. Taking a beating behind a patchwork offensive line, Cousins still finished the season fifth in completions of 20-plus yards. Despite losing a pair of 1,000-yard wideouts in the offseason and receiving little help from his nominal No. 1 receiver (Terrelle Pryor), Pro Bowl tight end (Jordan Reed) and injury-decimated backfield, Cousins kept the Redskins competitive down the stretch and cemented his standing in the locker room.
"He's an amazing quarterback. He's an elite quarterback in my eyes," right tackle Morgan Moses testified Monday, via The Washington Post. "He has the smarts, he has the tools, he gets the ball out of his hands fast, he's able to read defenses -- all the things you ask a quarterback to do in the NFL.
"Obviously we want him here, we love him, we love what he brings to the team and hopefully we can figure a way to keep him here." Moses' effusive praise begs the question, Why wouldn't the Redskins figure out a way to keep an evolving quarterback with top-five numbers, strong leadership ability, rare intelligence and a maniacal commitment to self-improvement?
The front office is facing an extraordinary NFL contract conundrum, paying for the original sin of misevaluating a fourth-round pick who deliberately blossomed into a franchise quarterback under the Redskins' own watchful eyes.
"You know, we kind of messed up in Washington not getting him done earlier, from the standpoint of the contract," former general manager Scot McCloughan acknowledged last summer. "... He's a very intriguing guy. I respect him as a player, and I respect him more as a person."
An unlikely revolutionary, the mild-mannered, hyper-religious Cousins is the first quarterback ever to play back-to-back seasons under the franchise tag. Having successfully maneuvered the Redskins into checkmate, he will end up shattering the three-year record for guaranteed earnings ($78.36 million), should team president Bruce Allen wield the franchise tag yet again.
Insisting that financial route is "not the worst thing for the franchise," Allen stressed last offseason that he views the seemingly prohibitive $34.47 million third-tag figure as an option year that would potentially keep Cousins in-house until at least March of 2019 at a sum of $58.4 million for the 2017 and 2018 seasons.
While substituting the franchise tag for the less-popular transition designation would theoretically save the Redskins roughly $6 million, that option is not on the table. The prospect of a front-loaded deal resulting from a bidding war is enough of a deterrent to shelve the idea, team sources have assured NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.
Allen's decision won't be as simplistic as falling back on the franchise tag for a third time, however. If Cousins continues building on his success and lifts a healthier Redskins roster into next season's playoff field, it will only serve to perpetuate the quarterback's unparalleled leverage and further reduce his likelihood of submitting to a long-term contract in the nation's capital.
In other words, Cousins' future looms as a Faustian bargain for Allen and owner Daniel Snyder.
"As far as I understand, the Redskins are undecided," Rapoport explained last week. "It's not a question of Is he a good quarterback? Is he a franchise quarterback? It's not really that. It's Is he a franchise quarterback relative to the $34 million franchise tag that it would take? And then what would his contract be? Because if you tag him, you're not going to pay him $34 million a year to do a long-term [deal]. Would he take something that's palatable? Or would he make sure the $34 million is the baseline?"
Therein lies the rub. Rapoport has emphasized the need for Cousins to "feel the love" in prospective negotiations, perhaps in the form of an apology contract to make amends for a sense of underappreciation that stretches all the way back to the Griffin years.
In fact, Cousins' father recently suggested the damage between the two sides might just be beyond repair.
"They could have made him the highest-paid player in NFL history, and he wouldn't have signed," Don Cousins told The MMQB's Greg Bishop in late November. "People say, Well, he's making $24 million. Fact is, he could have gotten a whole lot more."
Against that backdrop, desperate teams are circling overhead, prepared to dive in and pick the Redskins clean as punishment for miscalculating the impending free agent's market and underestimating his ability. The Browns, Jets, Bills -- and perhaps even the Jaguars, Cardinals or Giants -- will be on the prowl for a fresh face of the franchise.
Broncos general manager John Elway has already resolved to fix his own quarterback quandary, Rapoport has reported, with Cousins as one of the targets in the crosshairs.
If Elway carries a high esteem for the former Michigan State star's talents, he's certainly not alone at Broncos headquarters. Before Washington's aerial attack shredded his vaunted defense in Week 16, coach Vance Joseph touted Cousins as "a tough guy, a special guy."
After falling prey to Cousins' audibles, awareness and quick release in that Christmas Eve clash, All-Pro pass rusher Von Miller was left wowed. "Kirk is a great quarterback. I'll say that every day of the week," Miller raved. "A lot of teams would ... literally kill to have a quarterback like that. The list [of Cousins suitors] is long. We'll cross that bridge if we ever get to it."
Pro Bowl cornerback Aqib Talib was similarly hyperbolic in praise, leaving little doubt that Denver's respected veterans view Cousins as a top-of-the-line field general capable of leading the Broncos back to the promised land.
"He runs the show. He's a real NFL quarterback," Talib explained. "There's a difference, if you really look around the league. There's a handful of guys that really know their offense and run it to a 'T'. He gets the ball out of his hands, he can create time in the pocket, he's very accurate, he'll take the checkdown when it's there. He plays like a real NFL quarterback."
While it was once fair game to wonder if Cousins could replicate his success outside the cozy confines of Jay Gruden's offensive system, his standing as a legitimate franchise quarterback is now beyond dispute. The tangible strides shown throughout the 2017 season without the benefit of NFL Coach of the Year favorite Sean McVay's play-calling mastery have left Allen and Snyder in a bind.
There's simply no precedent for a durable franchise quarterback to walk out the door in the prime of his career, leaving a vacancy under center. The two franchise-altering outliers of the free-agent era were made possible by unique circumstances involving serious injuries and promises of an upgrade to a newer model.
Faced with a career-threatening shoulder procedure, Drew Brees was allowed to exit San Diego because the Chargers were ready to turn the offense over to Philip Rivers in 2006. Peyton Manning's four neck surgeries paved the way to the Andrew Luck era in Indianapolis a half-decade ago.
Along the trade route, established quarterbacks such as Drew Bledsoe (2002), Brett Favre (2008) and Alex Smith (2013) were jettisoned only once it was determined that the younger alternative -- Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Colin Kaepernick -- offered greater upside.
Perhaps the closest parallels to Cousins are a pair of ex-Broncos in Jay Cutler and Jake Plummer. The former forced his way out of Denver upon learning of incoming coach Josh McDaniels' covert trade talks with Tampa Bay. The latter left Arizona for the Mile High City when both team and player opted for a change of scenery.
Whereas Cousins has been among the most productive and efficient passers in the league, though, Plummer was coming off a disappointing 2002 season in which his 65.7 passer rating ranked near the bottom of the league. That's where the comparison breaks down.
Under the modern NFL's increased demands, the value of a franchise quarterback is beyond calculable. Absent a viable replacement at the game's most imbalanced position, the Redskins would risk years of irrelevance if forced into a trade or Cousins defection. Just ask the Browns, eternally in quest of a quarterback -- as noted wordsmith Marc Sessler once quipped -- like the Earth needs our sun. Better yet, ask the 49ers, only recently delivered from pigskin purgatory when Bill Belichick gift-wrapped Jimmy Garoppolo at the trade deadline.
"Until you find your quarterback," Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff has conceded, "the search for him consumes you."
If Cousins is left to twist in the wind for the next few months, it's a good bet the competition for his services will consume Elway and several other football czars around the league. The resulting sweepstakes would represent a windfall for the coveted quarterback, almost certain to result in the richest contract the NFL has seen to date.
Should that fate befall the Redskins, the Hamlet act of Allen and Snyder will have only themselves to blame for failing to heed the timely advice of their own head coach.
"Being an accomplished quarterback in the National Football League is a heck of a thing, and there aren't many of them," Jay Gruden cautioned in the summer of 2016. "If you get one, you better hang on to him, because they don't grow on trees." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...aid-player-ever
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I thought Mayfield looked good against Georgia.
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I thought Mayfield looked good against Georgia. I did, until the second half ... the OL wa not good either tho
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Note Georgia and most teams this year was not only to stop Mayfield but put him OUT OF THE GAME.
DE close to 300 lbs was blocked as he was reaching Mayfield on the ground he left the ground with both feet came down on Mayfield with his KNEES in his side - probably cracked some ribs. Mayfield was not the same after that. Cheap shot caught on the replay and was stated because the player was blocked into Mayfield got him a free ride to hurt Mayfield.
I've seen it all year against him.
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I hadn't realized that was a trend. He does seem tough ... but he also DEFINITELY had a target on his back
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Alex Smith with the Dorsey connection and a 20 million cap hit on KC if they keep him but with Hue staying, Kiser it is!
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I thought Mayfield looked good against Georgia. I thought he did really well when asked to execute a gameplan that was destroying the defense. When the defense got smart, I saw Baker play a super safe game, except when it was messy.
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I thought Mayfield looked good against Georgia. I thought he did really well when asked to execute a gameplan that was destroying the defense. When the defense got smart, I saw Baker play a super safe game, except when it was messy. If CK taught us anything, you have to be able to beat cover 1 against top talent. Georgia played C1 that entire second half. That's the major adjustment they made.
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That's also one of the few good things you can say about Kizer.
He's mentally and physically tough.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Alex Smith with the Dorsey connection and a 20 million cap hit on KC if they keep him but with Hue staying, Kiser it is! I'm worried he's going to look somewhere like Denver, Washington (If Denver gets Cousins) or Jacksonville rather than joining Cleveland. At this point of his career, I wonder how much he can be swayed to come be a stop-gap for an 0-16 team with a head coach who really doesn't fit what Smith likes to do. He'll know he's just going to get Mahomes'd in Cleveland. Any of those other teams offer him a better chance to win immediately and remain the starter for longer. Cleveland could certainly offer him the most, but when you've made over $100M in your career, it's hard to say just how much extra it would take to sway him.
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