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Trump threatens aid to Palestinians, appears to contradict himself on Jerusalem

By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 8:31 AM ET, Wed January 3, 2018

(CNN)President Donald Trump raised the prospect Tuesday of cutting off aid to the Palestinian territories unless Palestinian leaders agree to resume negotiations to broker a peace deal with Israel.

He also appeared to contradict his previous statement that the US recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital would not impact the final status of Jerusalem in peace negotiations, claiming instead that "we have taken Jerusalem, the toughest part of the negotiation, off the table."

"We pay the Palestinians HUNDRED OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS a year and get no appreciation or respect. They don't even want to negotiate a long overdue peace treaty with Israel," Trump tweeted. "We have taken Jerusalem, the toughest part of the negotiation, off the table, but Israel, for that, would have had to pay more. But with the Palestinians no longer willing to talk peace, why should we make any of these massive future payments to them?"

A White House spokesman declined to comment about the apparent contradiction.

Trump's tweets late Tuesday afternoon came nearly a month after he became the first sitting US President to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, drawing Palestinians into the streets in protest.

A central committee member of the powerful Palestine Liberation Organization, Hanan Ashrawi, responded to Trump's threat to cut aid by saying that "Palestinian rights are not for sale."

"We will not be blackmailed," Ashrawi said in a statement sent Wednesday morning.

"By recognizing Occupied Jerusalem as Israel's capital Donald Trump has not only violated international law, but he has also singlehandedly destroyed the very foundations of peace and condoned Israel's illegal annexation of the city."

Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital caused Palestinian leaders to reject the US' decades-old role as the central negotiator in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas earlier claimed that Trump's recognition of Jerusalem, which both Israelis and Palestinians claim as their capital, discredited the US as an honest broker in the peace process.

And while Trump administration officials told CNN last month that the Jerusalem decision did not mean tougher concessions for Israelis down the line, Trump wrote in his tweet that "Israel, for that, would have had to pay more."

While Trump administration officials have said they expected a "cooling off period" with the Palestinians, Trump's tweets Tuesday signaled the President has grown frustrated with Palestinians' refusal to partake in a US-led peace process in the wake of his Jerusalem decision. The tweets also came after the White House confirmed that the US plans to withhold some of its aid to Pakistan to pressure the country into better counterterrorism cooperation with the US.

The US spent $616 million on aid to the Palestinian territories in 2016, according to the US Agency for International Development, which includes humanitarian assistance, private sector debt payments and infrastructure development assistance.

The President's tweets late Tuesday afternoon, though, did more than threaten US aid to Palestinians -- they also appeared to contradict his own statements about the impact of his recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital and may have undermined his administration's efforts to hammer home that message in the Middle East.

"We are not taking a position on any of the final status issues including the final boundaries of the Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem," Trump said last month as he made his Jerusalem announcement. "Those questions are up to the parties involved. The United States remains deeply committed to helping facilitate a peace agreement that is acceptable to both sides."

Trump's statement at the announcement was intended to reassure Palestinians and the broader Arab and Muslim world that the US was not giving away control of Jerusalem to Israel or forsaking Palestinian claims to the holy city.

And in the weeks after, Trump administration officials would urge those inflamed by Trump's decision to pay attention to his message about "not taking a position" on the future status of Jerusalem.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/02/politics/trump-palestinian-aid/index.html

He doesn't even understand the basic concepts of the region.

That's because he's letting Saudi Arabia and Israel run his foreign policy in the Middle East.

The "we can't lead from behind" crowd is suddenly enamored with a senile game show host who lets other countries dictate world policy while he golfs all day.

These people don't understand what soft power is. By 2020 China will be the leading country due to Trump's 4 years of foreign mismanagement and nonactions.

The playbook is pretty much out there for the world to see - flatter Trump by projecting the distorted funhouse mirror vision he has of himself, and that's all it takes to get whatever you want.

It's truly frightening.

More clueless rantings by people who know nothing but hate.

You guys run around like your hair is on fire over every tweet and every statement Trump makes. It is ridiculous.

You need to distinguish between what this President says and what he does. He positions the United States with what he says and then does what rewards us most.

He railed against NATO, tweeted and blustered, then if you look at what he did, we are still in NATO, supporting it, but now they are payer their share of the costs.

He railed against Sanctions on Russia yet what he has done is allow them to continue. It opens the United States to future discussions with Russia.

He rails against the Palestinians as they have done nothing to work for peace in 30 years. We will see what he ends up doing. Nothing else has worked there, it is time to try a new approach.

This is how he operates, how he gets things done for America.

So take your chill pills, temper your hate and watch the man succeed for all of us.

You're talking about the man like A) he has any idea what he's talking about and B) that he has a plan.

It's beyond well-established that he has no clue as to what's going on around him, and has no interest in learning. His policy is based on repeating what he hears on "Fox & Friends" like a parrot.

We're talking about a man that thinks health insurance costs $14 a month. A man who recently discovered that China is much older than the United States, and that Kim Jong-Un and Kim Jong-Il are different people.

A man who, if you said "Mr. President, what do you think about the situation in Pretendia" would ramble about how he knows all about the situation in Prentendia and has his best people working on it.

A man who doesn't read, and forced his underlings to make his national security reports with less words and more pictures.

A man who said he's good at foreign policy because he "watches the generals on television".

A crybaby reactionary who's terrified of Megyn Kelly.

What he says is mere repetition of what he hears, as he's an incurious dullard with no capacity or interest in learning. What he does is golf all day and scream at the television while the rest of the world takes the reins.

And of course people get upset when he talks. Who wouldn't be frightened hearing the president saying things like "I have a very good brain and I know all the best words"?

He doesn't do anything. He doesn't pay taxes, he doesn't answer questions, he can't give a coherent speech, and doesn't know how to govern. All he does is tweet his stupid crap out of his mouth instead flushing it down the toilet after taking his trump dump.

His spokesmen consistently say "his statements stand on their own", knowing full well his statements represent every single American in a negative light and that their too weak to stand up to his rhetoric or question his lies.

Distinguished that!

Que the whatboutism's

You continue to talk like you know of what you speak, but you don't. You are blinded by hate.

As I told everyone on these Boards who would listen, from the very beginning, Trump has his style.

I spoke of how he negotiates. He goes into a town, wanting to build a 30 story building when they only allow 24 stories to be built.
He rails about needing a 40 story building and nothing else will do. He explains how he will be using local labor and Union workers. He shows how other businesses will build near his 40 story building and the entire town will prosper beyond belief.
The negotiations go back and forth with much bluster on his part in the Press.

In the end the town will only agree to a 35 story building and he accepts, acknowledging the incredible town leaders and their efforts to get this done. They are tough negotiators. He accepts the 35 floors saying he will make that work.

Everyone is happy and he has gotten 5 more floors than he wanted.

Cackled. You know he hasn't implemented those sanctions, right?

Also, I'm booling. I'm not worried about anything Trump does because he's so incompetent. Worrying about him leading is like someone worrying the Browns will beat their team. It's just not a thing. So again, I'm booling. Trump is a boat with no rudders.

Trump is best known for being a terrible negotiator who wilts under pressure and constantly overpays for properties and winds up trying to screw over working-class contractors to make up the debt incurred from his terrible business deals.

His banks had to put him on allowance and require final say in purchases because he owed them so much and kept getting crushed in terrible deals.

He grinds himself into further foolish debt because he craves large signs and monuments, as he's very fragile and has low self-esteem, and finds solace in such displays of ostentation. A good example was the "TRUMP" sign in Chicago Rahm Emmanuel fleeced him on because of his obsession.

He's a simpleton who is easily duped, constantly. That's been the MO of his career. How could you possibly argue its a strong suit of his? The guy is a walking pile of debt who sets fire to nearly everything he touches

Also, it's kind of hard to take you seriously when you try to argue that people are blinded by Trump, considering you got duped into believing that a trust fund coward who is terrified of Megyn Kelly stopped a mugging in which the would-be mugger shouted "Please Mr. Trump, I didn't do anything wrong! Don't hurt me!"

Your idea of leadership is a denture-wearing game show host who curls into a ball of rage when he thinks people are mean to him, a pedophile who dressed up like a cowboy and rode a horse to the polls as a publicity stunt, and a war criminal who raped women in front of their children. Maybe you should reassess what it is to be a man and a leader.

Yes we know 40. He thinks he's above the law and that American citizens work for him.

You repeated it so many times. But thanks for sharing it once again.

In your world and in the circles you travel all this is seen as truth along with the Fake News Media and Fascist Liberal/Progressives.
But please stop presenting it as Fact for it is far from it.

It is only blind hate.

You can cackle you can boo but in 2014 Obama placed Sanctions on Russia and they remain today. Trump did not look to eliminate them.
Now you have a clue about sanctions against Russia.

It is time for you to let go of the things you thought and did as a child and step into manhood.

We've once again reached the part where 40 puts his tail between his legs like a coward and rambles random buzzwords over and over. Looks like it's "blind hate" this time.

Let's go down the line-

Trump is absolutely a terrible negotiator that constantly gets fleeced in deals. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

He overpaid for an airline, and ran it into the ground. He overpaid for a football team and ran it into the ground. He's been widely mocked for overpaying on just about every property he's ever purchased, because he lacks negotiation skills, and everyone knows they can get what they want from him if they flatter his fragile ego.

It's a fact, not an opinion, that banks he was in debt to put him in an allowance and required final say or purchases because he dug himself into so much debt on terrible business deals.

It's a fact, not an opinion, that no bank in the world will lend to him because he's proven to be so inept at business and contract negotiation.

It's a fact, not an opinion, that he's had to pay dozens and dozens of lawsuits for his attempts to stiff working class contractors to cover up his inept losses.

It's a fact, not an opinion that he regularly melts down into childish temper tantrums when he feels people are being mean or unfair to him.

It's a fact, not an opinion, that you were tricked into believing an obviously made up story about Trump stopping a mugger.

So what, exactly, are you referring to when you say that I'm dealing in opinion and not fact? Or are you going to crawl away with your tail between your legs repeating random words like a stroke victim again?

You know NOTHING about Trump. Several books about his life are out there, please read one.



He published his plan in 2000 in the book 'The America We Deserve' read and learn please.

They only care about hate. Facts mean nothing.

And Congress passed sanctions last year about their meddling in our election. That's why I'm laughing. Continue to lie through your teeth though. It's amusing seeing you cry.

Trump is a moron con man who lacks the capacity for introspective thought and operates on a level of knee jerk reaction. There's not much to "know". I am well-versed in his history of failure in negotiation and business.

Also, Trump has never written anything. He doesn't read and can't spell. Tony Schwartz wrote Trunp's books for him, and has discussed on several occasions about how he routinely guessed or created the bulk of the work because Trump is an easily distracted simpleton who was often strayed from the task.

Interesting, I have 5 of his books sitting on my desk, Tony Schwartz is credited on one of them.

I understand your being blinded by hate but I was referring to existing sanctions. Trump changed much of what Obama did but he didn't try to end those.

As far as the new sanctions are concerned, Trump signed them in August.

(On Aug. 2, with no public ceremony, Trump signed the bill -- but released two blistering statements with his signature, calling the legislation "significantly flawed" and saying it included "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions.")

Please read what I said again and weep.

You are embarrassing yourself.

The guy gullible enough to get routinely duped into laughably obvious nonsense like "Obama held military coup" is here to set the facts straight.

Well we can always fall back on "PDF Facts" as many of us call them.

Like...

"It's beyond well-established that he has no clue as to what's going on around him, and has no interest in learning."

" His policy is based on repeating what he hears on "Fox & Friends" like a parrot."

Come now, time to man up already.

I don't know, but I'd bet that the huge majority of books aren't "written" by the person named in the title. Like Hillarys books, or any athletes book/s, or Bannon's book, or anyone else's book/s. What? Surely you don't mean that literally, right? But, I can read, and spell - and that's what you just said.

Here's a list of his books. I only saw 'Tony Schwartz' listed 1 time. (edited to say this: It would be nice if I included the link, wouldn't it?)

http://www.paperbackswap.com/Donald-J-Trump/author/

Robert Kiyosaki is credited with most.

I'm sure there are some ghost writers as well, and maybe Schwartz is one of them?

The creepty guy who admires perverts and impotent cowards wants to "man up".

I didn't list those as "facts", but they are certainly true.

We're talking about a man that thinks health insurance costs $12 a yearm, and recently learned that Kim Jong-Un and Kim Jong-Il are different people. It's beyond obvious when he speaks that he has little or no grasp on the issues at hand. He routinely leaves signing ceremonies without signing the documents, and has more than once expressed regret that his wife couldn't be with him while she's standing by his side.

We've done this dance a million times before. Remember when you were crowing about how Trump had a "great" plan to give "great" health care to the people, and I pointed out that he didn't know what health insurance was (Trump thinks its life insurance), you had to shrink down immediately to "OK, he doesn't know, but Congress does"?

What was it, two days ago where he started going on some long-winded rant about how millions of people are signing up for the great health care plan he put forth (there is no plan, and no one signing up). Do you think he's merely lying, and not just delusional and incompetent?

In this very thread, you tried to make the laughable argument that Trump is a shrewd negotiator, and when it was pointed out that the exact opposite is true, you shirked away with your talk between your legs, unable to refute the litany of examples of Trump getting fleeced throughout the years.

And now you want to argue that the man who said he gets his foreign policy "from the generals on the TV", and that he's well versed in what's going on in the world because "he has a very good brain, and knows all the best words" isn't an incompetent simpleton?

You have a picture in your head of some skilled negotiator. Reality reflects otherwise - Trump is an impulse-driven moron who constantly gets worked in negotiation because the other side of the table knows to flatter his ego. He's a man who inherited money from his father, burned it, borrowed money from his siblings, burned it, and burned banks on his terrible business deals to the point where they put them on an allowance and he's no longer allowed to borrow money from anywhere in the world outside Deutsche.

You have a picture in your head of a man "with the heart of the lion", so much so that you let yourself get tricked into giving money to a teenage edgelord from Reddit because you got duped into believing that he stopped a mugger. In reality, he's an impulsive hothead who flies into crybaby rages when he thinks people are mean or unfair to him.

The facts are on the side of my characterizations that he's an idiot, a terrible businessman and a weak crybaby. There are no facts to assert the distorted nonsense that you parrot straight from Trump's mouth.

I'd welcome you step to the plate once again, but we all know it ends with you cowardly shirking away while repeating random words and phrases like a mental patient.

Pretty much all of them, yes.

I've worked in ghostwriting - generally you get together with the subject to go over big ideas and details, and then set out and write the text, working with the subject.

Everyone who has worked with Trump has discussed how much longer it takes, because he has the attention-span of a small child and cannot stay focused, leaving them having to extend the prep time and later having to come up with the bulk of the ideas themselves.



No, I mean it quite literally.

Trump does not read - he's disclosed this himself many times before. He watches television all day. When asked what his favorite books are, he's always said "Art of the Deal". When he started running for president, he changed his answer to "Art of the Deal" and The Bible (which he obviously has never read).

Since he doesn't know how to use computers, he has his aides print out web articles, making them highlight salient points in both newsprint and printed online works.

When he took office, he became frustrated at his daily intelligence briefings, complaining that they were too long, and demanded that they be shortened to bulletpoints with pictures. Even that wasn't sufficient - aides soon found they had to insert praise of Trump throughout, otherwise, he would lose focus and not complete the reports.

And he absolutely can't spell. Honore instead of honor, chocker instead of choker, lietweight instead of lightweight, etc. Both in his tweets and written letters, it's quite evident he works at an elementary-level spelling capability.

This has all been well-documented.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...m=.c68d561a85db


NEW YORK — As he has prepared to be named the Republican nominee for president, Donald Trump has not read any biographies of presidents. He said he would like to someday.

He has no time to read, he said: “I never have. I’m always busy doing a lot. Now I’m more busy, I guess, than ever before.”

Trump’s desk is piled high with magazines, nearly all of them with himself on their covers, and each morning, he reviews a pile of printouts of news articles about himself that his secretary delivers to his desk. But there are no shelves of books in his office, no computer on his desk.

Presidents have different ways of preparing to make decisions. Some read deeply, some prefer to review short memos that condense difficult issues into bite-size summaries, ideally with check-boxes at the bottom of the page. But Trump, poised to become the first ­major-party presidential nominee since Dwight Eisenhower who had not previously held elected office, appears to have an unusually light appetite for reading.

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He said in a series of interviews that he does not need to read extensively because he reaches the right decisions “with very little knowledge other than the knowledge I [already] had, plus the words ‘common sense,’ because I have a lot of common sense and I have a lot of business ability.”

So, would it be fair to assume you can't spell?

I mean, just trying to hold you to the same level that you hold Trump.


Or, would that be unfair?

Also - honest question - did you write your book entirely yourself, or did you have a co writer? (my guess is you wrote it yourself - with possibly someone doing some editing, proof reading, etc - but, did you?

If I spelled it "creepty" repeatedly, then yes, you could hold me to that standard. But it's obvious that this is a typo, not how I thought the word was spelled.

The words I cited - honore, chocker, leitweight, are spelling Trump has used for years, both on Twitter and in print. Usually, when he posts them Twitter, Scavino or Hope Hicks will delete and replace with the correct spelling.



I have a proofer and an editor, but the work itself is mine. They may advise that I strike certain parts, or make suggestions on re-wording, but the words are mine.

In ghostwriting, it's very different. People like Trump or Hillary or Obama will sit with the author, who then writes it, and send it over to them for approval.

Ah. I see. It's different. So you don't hold yourself to the same standards. Got it.

Let's cover 40's responses when he can't actually debate a topic....

"You're blinded by hate"

"You're a sissy"

"The circles you travel in"

"Be a man"

Most of these things he has no clue how to do and the others are only things said by people who have no opposing facts to debate with.

If Trump had spelled honor incorrectly once or twice , then, yes, it would be unfair to say he doesn't know how to spell it.

But he's been spelling it "honore" since the 1980's. Same with "chocker" instead of choker, leitweight, etc. As I said, I chose those ones specifically because they're words that he's proven he doesn't know how to spell for over 40 years.

You seriously don't see the difference there?

Ah, yes. It's different for you.

Got it.



So, twitter Scavino and Hicks aren't doing their jobs apparently?

Spell check isn't doing its job for you, either?

Look, I get it, you made a typo.

How long have you been following Trump on whatever electronic media there is? He's been spelling words wrong since the 1980's? How do you know?

why Would trump expect the Palestinians to play nice after the massive slap in the face he just did toward them?

Is his how business effiency look like, DC and excel? You guys wanted a business man to make these decisions, yet every time he makes a decision, we look worse on the international stage because of it.

The world continues to be put off by his administrations handling of foreign affairs, yet people who don’t understand diplomacy whatsoever applaud his decisions left and right.

I simply don’t get it. How can people be this ignorant on the world around them. Scary stuff.

Trump has a well-known penchant for taking printouts of newspaper articles that praise him or or get under his skin and scrawling responses in gold Sharpie before having them mailed to the author. When Grayson Carter ran Spy Magazine, they used to mock the fact that he had short-fingers. He would throw a hissy fit and send over printouts with his hand circled and a note saying "See? BIG!" Spy would run them, and he often chose to call Carter and his partner "leitweights". Similarly, whenever a favorable article would be written about him, he would often scrawl "What an honore!" and mail it out.

Because that's how ne believes things should be. He feels any time you disagree with him he has every right to attack you. Once he attacks you, he feels you should bow down to him.

The man's not right.

I agree it's scary! How ignorant people can be to the concept that WE won't be the pansy ass country you take advantage of any longer. Wow, this may take some time to sink in.

Grayson? Or Graydon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_(magazine)

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/03/spy-magazines-digital-afterlife/72049/

That spelling thing is tough, I know. But, just today you've made 2 errors. Should I be led to believe you can't spell?

Trump is a volatile thin-skinned pansy who can be blown up into rage with name-calling and lulled into complacency with conpliments.

His insecurity coupled with his massive debt, and under Trump we are the very epitome of a country ripe to be taken advantage of.

Really, all North Korea would have to do is praise Trump under the terms he'd like to be praised over, and he'd probably give them nukes.

Remember when he complimented Trump - back when he still thought Kim and his father were the same person - and Trump started fawning over him, calling him a "tough cookie" and a "smart guy".

All you have to do to have your way on the world's stage is to pat Trump's head and pay him a compliment.