DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season 2018 NFL Draft Who do you take @ #4 if Minkah & Saquon are both gone?

Must keep that left tackle spot in mind. New QB needs that protection.

Still think JT has made no decision yet. He may come to like this time off

JT said on his podcast today that he'll make his decision in a few weeks.

I take Rosen and Lamar Jackson at #1 and #4.

I don't think Ridley will be there when we pick in the second round. If we go strictly BPA, we'll likely take Minah @ #4 if he's there, which is fine with me. If he's not, depending on how they have the players ranked, they just might find more value in Chub or one of the tackles, as opposed to say Saquon, or a WR or one of the corners. It will definitely be interesting to see what they do at @ #4, and of course it's JMHO.

I hope he does come back, but whether he does or not, we'll need to fill that spot at some point and I can see the logic in taking a tackle with the #4 pick. It won't be the sexy, popular pick but it could be the right one. Minkah would have to be off the board though for it to make sense to me.

I don't see us taking two QBs and starting the draft with a QB controversy. Don't see that happening at all.

I don't see Minkah and Saquon being gone. I'm just playing by the rules of the thread. With all 5 QBs coming out, I'd like to see us trade down from #4.

If Minka and Saquan are gone I would trade down and take Ridley or if we get one of those 2 at #4 I would trade back into the top 15 to get Ridley, I think he will be a star and putting him and Gordon together would strike fear into secondary's, I would also go as far as trading our 2020 1st rd pick to get Ridley. If that scenario happens that means our 1st rd. would bring us Rosen/Darnold/Allen @ #1 Barkley/Fitzpatrick @ #4 and Ridley somewhere in the top 15 that would be quite a haul and start our resurgence ... JMHO

I'd like to hold but I do realize we need a ton. I figure we easily draft top five in 2019 too. Kinda tired of trade downs but IF the return is right I'm okay with it.

Our potential trade down partners would be the Broncos #5, Jets #6 and Dolphins #11. That would still keep us in a position to pick top talent. I think our best bet, without a doubt, is to try to trade down with those teams.

Would you trade down if Minkah is there at #4?

First pick draft site set up the same scenario with Barkley and Fitzpatrick being drafted 2 and 3. I wanted to see a simulation of what offers would be for a trade down. Tampa Bay offered the seventh picks in rounds 1,2 and 3 for the 4th overall. Knowing that many of these guys will not be available where I was able to select them. Some selections are meant to be position only picks.

Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 7 (T.B.): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 7 (T.B.): Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (B)
Round 2 Pick 30: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (B-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Ronald Jones II, RB, Southern California (A)
Round 3 Pick 7 (T.B.): Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Trey Marshall, SS, Florida State (C+)
Round 4 Pick 28: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State (B)
Round 5 Pick 1: M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina (A)
Round 5 Pick 24: Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Scott Quessenberry, C, UCLA (C)

I like the kid out of Florida State James !

Courtland Sutton WR would be my no brainer choice if he is still there.

Witch QB would the donks or jets betrading up for? ...

U think Jackson/Mayfield or Alllen are worth trading up to get? ...

Hard for me to say completely without knowing the haul. However, I would trade down to #5 for as low as a third and #6 for as low as a 2nd. I'd want at least a first and a 2nd for the #11 pick. But, let's say I didn't know what we would get. I would still trade down 9/10 times. I love Minkah as a prospect, mainly because he could play CB so well. He could be our CB 1 in some games. I would still trade down as there is a chance he could still be there at #5 or #6. And if not, we could then draft Derwin James, a different safety, but one I think might make a better pair with Peppers. Their skill sets compliment each other a bit better imo than Minkah and Peppers. Or we could grab the top cornerback in the draft. Whether that's Joshua Jackson or Denzel Ward. So to make a long answer short, I think we should trade down.

I would bet that we don't trade down just to show that the new front office is not the old front office.

No way! We already have almost half a roster of young players and 12 draft picks. We're at the point we shouldn't trade quantity for quality. We're past that point. We need impact players and he's certainly one of those.

I wouldn't be surprised. Dorsey reminds me of one of those dumb arrogant football guys like Holmgren was.

I would bet that we don't trade down because it would not be the smart thing to do.

Come on! Dorsey is the polar opposite of The Big Show. They aren't even close.

Why would it not be a smart thing to trade down to #5 if the Broncos are going to take a QB and we've already taken a QB?

Why would Denver do that?

Fitz will probably be there at 4. His Combine numbers won't astound people.

However, he is a great football player.

Rosen and Fitz would be a huge coup for the Browns. I think that is smart and I think it makes a lot more sense than Dorsey trying to show up the previous FO, as cfrs suggested.

Because the Jets could trade us for the spot instead.

The top of the draft will be interesting because Saquon Barkley, Bradley Chubb, Arden Key and Minkah Fitzpatrick are all worthy of being the first two non-QBs picked in the draft. How they fall is anyone's guess.

I think Dorsey understands just how young this team is and that we already have 12 picks in this draft. I think he knows what we lack more than anything is impact players.

You don't get those type of players by trading down and you don't pass on one who is staring you in the face. If anything we need to be trading up with later picks than trading down. If we use second round picks and picks past that to walk away with eight rookies drafted higher and better quality, it would be smarter than adding 14 rookies with lesser talent.

Okay, but I don't think Dorsey is going to trade down to spite Sashi.

I think that is the opposite of "smart."

I think we take Rosen and Fitz. I think that would be very smart.

But, I'll butt out and you guys can go on w/the charade on this thread.

Like we did last year?

Dorsey literally worked for The Walrus in two different organizations. I just get the same slimey feeling from Dorsey that I got from Holmgren.

Sure. You just have to draft the right players.

I think David Njoku will end up being pretty good.

Did someone REALLY say Dorsey would trade down to spite Sashi?! I'd fire him the day of the draft if it had a hint of truth...which it doesn't.

Not exactly, but pretty close. Here is what cfrs posted:

If?

He isn't going in the top 3 picks. He will be there. He won't sniff the top 10 picks. My guess is mid 20's at the earliest.

Didn’t Dorsey work with Holmgrem st one point, in Seattle?

I think he worked w/him. Why do you ask?

Let me clue you in on something...........I'll just whisper it............not all of us are clueless and some of us can actually read between the lines.

I don’t think we move out of 4 but could see us swapping with the Giants so they get Rosen, we take Darnold or possibly Allen at two depending how he looks going into the draft. Especially if a vet who can start for a year or even two is brought in.

No, it was just a question. Nothing intended by it.

I think it would be incredibly ignorant to switch spots w/the Giants.

We have our choice of QBs. Why give that up?

Because Rosen is better and we wanna settle for second best? Weird.

Felt Holgrem was a good coach but was out of him element has head of football operations