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No matter who they draft I believe getting a veteran quarterback is the right way to go.
Rosen is the most NFL ready draft pick. He is an advanced passer in technique. He also came from a pro type offense.
However that does not necessarily make ready to be a starter.
If he were to prove that he is ready to start it would still be a good idea to have a veteran.
There are options that include FA like: McCown, Bradford, Keenum, and possibly Bridgewater.
Alex Smith could be released but the more likely scenario is he will be traded.
Smith just seems like the right fit. Dorsey knows him and he fits the role of a bridge(he knows it). He could start the season or be a backup. He is a solid player who has proven he can win. He rarely turns the ball over. We have the draft picks to trade for him. He is worth it.
No matter the draft pick the learning curve to starter is steep. It is no easy transition for any player.
I believe Dorsey will bring in a veteran. He knows rookies are not ready. He also knows it is important for the Browns to win games now. Starting out another season with 4 straight loses is not going to go well for anyone.
I don't see the Browns starting another season with a quarterback room full of guys who have never won a game in the NFL.
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I agree ... we need a vet to compete with Kizer while the rook sits and learns ...
I want a guy u didn’t mention ... AJ .... he’s perfect IMO ...
Don’t be so sure KC trades Smith ... they may just let Mahomes sit one more year ...
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Ya I also want a vet. For the rookie. I'll be happy with either of the top 2.
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He's in the last year of his deal that'll hit KC for $20,600,000 in cap space. He has a roster bonus of $3,600,000 on 3/16/18. Do you really think we should trade picks away to pick up that contract?
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He's in the last year of his deal that'll hit KC for $20,600,000 in cap space. He has a roster bonus of $3,600,000 on 3/16/18. Do you really think we should trade picks away to pick up that contract? He should be available to sign somewhere around 13 March 2018 if they can't get a long-term deal done in time.
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Maybe the Chiefs will give us a 2nd if we take his contract 
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Maybe the Chiefs will give us a 2nd if we take his contract 
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It's really a tough question to answer as to who will actually be available.
This has been an annual question in regards to signing a FA QB and each year many names get mentioned that simply aren't there when it comes FA signing time.
I actually think names like Case Keenum, Alex Smith and some others that get named won't be there to sign when the time comes.
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keep Kizer cut Kessler and sign a vet.
Kizer could end up being a solid player in the NFL. He's really young and was put on a very inexperienced team.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/01/nfl_free_agent_quarterback_who.html#incart_2boxNFL free-agent quarterbacks: Who could be available and could they end up in Cleveland? CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns will be in the market for a quarterback this offseason, that's a no-brainer. How they get that quarterback? That's anyone's guess at this point. There is, of course, the No. 1 pick in the draft. That's the most surefire way to identify your quarterback of the future. That said, it doesn't preclude them from finding a veteran quarterback either via free agency or trade. Part of picking a franchise quarterback is creating a path for him to be that guy, and that could include sitting him down for half a season or more. Some free agent options allow that. Others, if you sign them, might indicate you're going to look for a quarterback later in the draft who might sit for multiple seasons. Either way, here is a look at some of the free agent options that are out there. This is not a list of every free agent quarterback. The names on this list are either the most prominent names -- Drew Brees is on here, but he's not coming to Cleveland -- or names that could be possibilities, even if they aren't entirely realistic. by Dan Labbe, cleveland.com Kirk Cousins The Browns have the money to lure Cousins, but the Washington quarterback will have to weigh offers from more established rosters more prepared to win now and Jay Gruden remaining as the head coach in Washington makes a return feel possible. He also likely wouldn't sign here as a bridge. If he comes to Cleveland, he's the guy. Sam Bradford Darron Cummings, Associated Press Sam Bradford The idea of Bradford works in theory. All three of Minnesota's quarterbacks are destined for free agency and the 30-year-old Bradford is running out of time to start in the NFL. Bradford played 29 of 32 games in 2014 and 2015 before getting hurt this season, but it's still worrisome from a health standpoint to bring him in as the quarterback to keep a rookie on the bench for as long as possible. NFC Playoff Picture Football Mike Roemer, Associated Press Case Keenum One of the strangest and most unexpected runs by a quarterback in recent memory, the Vikings never seemed to fully commit to Keenum but now here they are, in the playoffs with a quarterback who has thrown for more than 3,500 yards and 22 touchdowns. His free agency will be interesting, too, if he actually gets there. How much does one outlier of a year get a guy paid? The Browns could do much worse than Keenum, who turns 30 in February, but he's been in the bridge quarterback situation before and, if he has options, would likely not be interested in doing it again. Teddy Bridgewater Bruce Kluckhohn, Associated Press Teddy Bridgewater The Vikings' entire quarterback situation is just bizarre. Bridgewater returned from his horrific injury this season and threw two passes. Unless Minnesota believes the injury completely ravaged Bridgewater's abilities, it's hard to believe they'd let him go. If I'm in charge in Minnesota, I'm keeping Keenum and Bridgewater. If I'm in charge of the Browns and he's available, I'm taking a flyer. Steven Senne, Associated Press Matt Moore Here's an interesting name. Moore was passed over in Miami after Ryan Tannehill went down in favor of Jay Cutler. He has started just five games since 2011, when he started 12 for the Dolphins, completing 60.5 percent of his passes with 16 touchdowns, 9 interceptions and a 6-6 record. Moore turns 34 in August. Butch Dill, Associated Press Chase Daniel New GM John Dorsey weirdly brought up Daniel in an interview with MMQB's Peter King when King asked him about shorter quarterbacks and Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield. "Some would say he’s too short, but I would ask you: How tall is Russell Wilson? How tall is Chase Daniel?" Dorsey said in the interview. At the combine in 2016, Dorsey said of Daniel and his coming free agency at the time, "And he's going to want to be able to see if he can start. I do believe he's capable of doing that." Ed Zurga, Associated Press Tyler Bray I'm not going to rule out any quarterback tied to Dorsey, though it may not necessarily be as a starter. Rick Scuteri, Associated Press Geno Smith Smith has started just two games in the last three seasons after starting 29 games his first two years. In his lone start in 2017, he threw for 212 yards and a score. Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com Josh McCown McCown had a career year with the Jets, throwing for more touchdowns and more yards than he ever has. A return to Cleveland would seem awfully unlikely and, like Bradford, it would be dangerous to bank on the sometimes-reckless veteran to stay healthy long enough to serve as a bridge and keep a rookie on the bench. Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com Ryan Fitzpatrick Let's be honest, the Browns' starting quarterback carousel needs Fitzpatrick to make it perfect. The reality is that Fitz has been pretty good some years and pretty awful others. An opportunity for one last run as a starter could be intriguing for the 35 year old. Mark J. Terrill, Associated Press Jimmy Garoppolo The Browns missed their shot at Garoppolo, if they ever really had one to begin with. Now that he went 5-0 with the 49ers, it's hard to see John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan screw this one up and let him end up elsewhere in 2018. At the very least, he'll get the franchise tag. What could have been? Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com Drew Brees It's not happening. Brandon Weeden I just look for any excuse possible to post this video. Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com Derek Anderson Hey, 2007 was a fun season. It was also a very long time ago. John Kuntz, cleveland.com Bonus: Alex Smith Smith is not a free agent, so it would take either him getting released or traded to send him elsewhere. The Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings, but would Kansas City really move on from Smith if this is the season in which they finally make a playoff run? One of Dorsey's first moves as Chiefs GM was to trade for Smith. Could there be a repeat this offseason? It's worth monitoring.
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I think we should bring in a vet, but what type of vet depends on which qb we take at 1.
If we draft Darnold, I can see going after Alex Smith, McCarron, or Bradford.
Then get rid of Kessler and Hogan and keep Kizer.
If we go w/Rosen, I think we should bring in a guy like Matt Moore. A guy w/experience who won't really be viewed as our starter.
Again, we then cut Kessler and Hogan and keep Kizer.
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Seriously, I will almost be saddened if we don't bring in both Anderson AND Weeden. It would be just so fitting.
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I would be OK with Cousins or Smith .. I would still draft two QB's and see what comes out of Camp ..
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I wouldn't mind McCarron, but only if they draft Rosen. If the pick is someone else, then I think they need to go hard after Smith or Cousins.
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The vet QB would be acquired before the draft. If it's Cousins, trade out of #1, perhaps as low as #6, taking Fitzpatrick at #4 and your choice (Barkley, Sutton, Ward?) with the new pick. I don't think we have to worry about this scenario though...
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. Daniel's only 6 feet tall. That's practically heresy on this site.
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He's in the last year of his deal that'll hit KC for $20,600,000 in cap space. He has a roster bonus of $3,600,000 on 3/16/18. Do you really think we should trade picks away to pick up that contract? Any team that trades for Alex Smith would assume a $17 million cap hit. On a one year deal that is not horrible for an average starting QB. After one year he would be gone and whoever the rookie is in 2018 takes over in 2019. I can't see Smith signing an extension with a team that is expected to take a QB first overall. He'd be a backup after only one year.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. Daniel's only 6 feet tall. That's practically heresy on this site. It's just a guess. He's a veteran QB that will be available that John Dorsey has signed before. He's also very easy to bench depending on who the rookie is.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. Daniel's only 6 feet tall. That's practically heresy on this site. Well, we could sign Chase and draft Mayfield and then play in a Midget Football League instead of the NFL.
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Don't they call that The Little People's Football League now?
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I think Smith is the perfect veteran QB for this situation. Whether he's available is another question. If KC feels Mahomes is ready, they might want out from under his contract, and we have the cap space to absorb it. I don't like the idea of trading a pick, but we have those too.
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Is there a league rule against stilts? Did you see Mayfied try to run from the cops? If he wore stilts he couldn't get away from a sloth!
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i can easily see McCarron here
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date...
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Is there a league rule against stilts? So they would be the Washington Rumple Stilt Skins?
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready. McCarron is only 27. He's not going to come here in FA to be a backup or bridge QB...
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready. McCarron is only 27. He's not going to come here in FA to be a backup or bridge QB... He will if nobody else wants him. To be clear, I don't want A.J. McCarron. I hope he stays restricted so that we don't even have a shot at getting him.
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I thought Rosen was NFL-ready?
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I thought Rosen was NFL-ready? He is, for the concussion protocol.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready. McCarron is only 27. He's not going to come here in FA to be a backup or bridge QB... He will if nobody else wants him. To be clear, I don't want A.J. McCarron. I hope he stays restricted so that we don't even have a shot at getting him. Agreed (working on the assumption that a vet QB is needed).
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I thought Rosen was NFL-ready? He is, for the concussion protocol. That was funny.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready. McCarron is only 27. He's not going to come here in FA to be a backup or bridge QB... He will if nobody else wants him. To be clear, I don't want A.J. McCarron. I hope he stays restricted so that we don't even have a shot at getting him. Nobody else wants him. I don't think Dorsey will want him either.
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If A.J. McCarron wins his grievance I would almost guarantee we sign him. If we don't get him, then I think Chase Daniel makes a lot of sense. McCarron is not the vet we need. In fact, I don't consider him a true vet at all. He has only started 3 games, I believe, and hasn't even thrown for 1000 yds in his career to date... We just need someone who can play until the rookie is ready. McCarron is only 27. He's not going to come here in FA to be a backup or bridge QB... He will if nobody else wants him. To be clear, I don't want A.J. McCarron. I hope he stays restricted so that we don't even have a shot at getting him. Nobody else wants him. I don't think Dorsey will want him either. I think the owner and the head coach will want him.
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Yes, Dorsey won't have the say. That's why Haslam said that Dorsey's top priority was to get us a QB. Because he won't be the one deciding on the QB.
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Yes, Dorsey won't have the say. That's why Haslam said that Dorsey's top priority was to get us a QB. Because he won't be the one deciding on the QB. He also said he wants to get players that fit the coach's system, did he not? The coach and the owner already tried to acquire A.J. McCarron.
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If Dorsey and Hue Jackson are working together then there is no reason they won't try to get AJ McCarron.
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